Great Unconformity

[JohnEmmett]

So what?

"The unexamined life is not worth living" - Socrates

 

[Gene2memE]

humanity could be older than the earliest apes

Possibility needs to be demonstrated, otherwise its just speculation.

Can you show an anatomically modern human fossil that is greater than 25 million years? Or genetic or biogeographic evidence of anatomically modern humans preceding the split between the Catarrhini-Hominidae split?

Because that's what you'd need to demonstrate the possibility.

hence evolution could be misguided

That wouldn't make evolution "misguided", it would just make humans a special exception.

evolution is fine with animals…

As I'm sure has been pointed out, humans ARE animals. Unless you can demonstrate otherwise?

 

[JohnEmmett]

humans ARE animals. Unless you can demonstrate otherwise?

Buddhist cosmology separates the realms of human and animal

Planes of Existence

 

[JohnEmmett]

Can you show an anatomically modern human fossil that is greater than 25 million years?

Michael Cremo collected the evidence out there

 

[Gene2memE]

Michael Cremo collected the evidence out there

No, Cremo and Thompson made a bunch of unfounded claims and repeat speculation on findings that are either totally outdated, in dispute (at best) or have been already overturned/dismissed as wrong.

Their evidence, from the perspectives of archeology and paleontology, is completely lacking. Basically they've just vomited out a survey of out of place objects and questionable/wrong date sets from scholarship of the late 19th/early 20th century and then claimed this means humans are 10s of millions or 100s of millions of years of old.

Nothing in 'Forbidden Archeology' actually engages with the known facts of human evolution, nor does it really engage with anything like scholarship on archeology/paleoarcheology. It's just a mess of quotations, followed by breathtaking leaps of logic to their pre-supposed conclusion.

It's the OPPOSITE of evidence. It's taking the answer and then distorting/selectively ignoring the available knowledge to produce the answer desired.

 

[JohnEmmett]

No, Cremo and Thompson made a bunch of unfounded claims

I am not convinced you can appreciate the topics I speak of

Nothing in 'Forbidden Archeology' actually engages with the known facts of human evolution

well of course

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm asking you to consider things


you appear to use science to close your mind


science should bring up possibilities

No, you are asking me to consider things refuted decades ago. I do have an open mind. I do not have a mind so open that my brains fall out.

 

[Subduction Zone]

"The unexamined life is not worth living" - Socrates

You are not examining. You appear to be only making noise.

 

[JohnEmmett]

I do have an open mind.

you are closed on this topic

 

[Subduction Zone]

you are closed on this topic

No, it there was actually some reliable evidence for your beliefs I would consider them. The problem is that you do not have any reliable evidence for any of the beliefs that you have backed here. You do not even seem to want to know what is and what is not evidence. You appear to have a closed mind when it comes to reality. Why do you resist learning the basics? They can only help you to understand the topics that you are interested in.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Why do you resist learning the basics?

because it is irrelevant

 

[JohnEmmett]

You appear to have a closed mind when it comes to reality.

our perspectives are very different

 

[Subduction Zone]

because it is irrelevant

No, they are very relevant.

Tell me, do you just want to believe? Or do you want to know? There is a big difference.

 

[Subduction Zone]

our perspectives are very different

That is because you do not appear to understand reality.

 

[JohnEmmett]

That is because you do not appear to understand reality.

to reject the afterlife is wrong view

 

[JohnEmmett]

Tell me, do you just want to believe? Or do you want to know?

I know the afterlife is real


since I have met a ghost

 

[Subduction Zone]

to reject the afterlife is wrong view

Then support your claim with evidence. And please, make it reliable evidence. Not "I seen a ghost!!! I really did".

 

[Subduction Zone]

I know the afterlife is real


since I have met a ghost

How do you know that? People imagine that they see things quite frequently. How would you test this claim or this ghost?

 

[klutedavid]

Scientists and other people that can think rationally. And why would anyone want to make up false stories?

The dating of strata in Australia and Canada may be incorrect. Then there is no missing billion years of strata.

 

[klutedavid]

How do you know that? People imagine that they see things quite frequently. How would you test this claim or this ghost?

How can you test the Big Bang?

Can we measure an infinite universe?

What was before the cosmic inflation event?

Can we assume anything about the deep past?