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My opinion is this can be in direct exposure to God's grace shining on a sinner. It can be like how a worm on the sidewalk will burn and be paralyzed by the UV rays of the sun, while those same rays can help a human's skin to make vitamin D for healthy skin and bones . . . if I remember correctly.His presence and grace torments them.
Currently none.what sort of church do you attend?
I heard it was about heaven and hell. What about here on Earth?He does the same way for the saved, only that since the unsaved want nothing to do with Him, His presence and grace torments them.
My opinion is this can be in direct exposure to God's grace shining on a sinner. It can be like how a worm on the sidewalk will burn and be paralyzed by the UV rays of the sun, while those same rays can help a human's skin to make vitamin D for healthy skin and bones . . . if I remember correctly.
But if the worm is under some moist leaves, the worm can feed on nutrients from rotten leaves which still have some sun energy locked in them (from photosynthesis) for the worm to use for energy, somehow, but without being in personal relating and sharing with the sunshine. Maybe this is like how sinners might not be able to stand Jesus, but they benefit a little bit from how God gives them food, but it is used for selfish living, while they miss out on the personal and tender intimacy we can enjoy with God.
I heard it was about heaven and hell. What about here on Earth?
The bottomless pit is actually a volcano. There will be an eruption on that day that the beast is revealed. It will be as they say a very busy news day. So much so that people will: "wonder" what is going on. Yet we will know because God told us ahead of time.The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition.
Maybe an example would be better.we can here on earth, heaven or hell will just be far greater.
Maybe an example would be better.
How does a non-Orthodox Christian receives grace?
An Orthodox who left the faith?
Or an Orthodox who does not repent from his sins?
Is God's Grace present only for those who God knows will be saved or is it given to the ones who will be unsaved too?
@ArmyMatt I will explain it better. I have heard that people who believe in a single predestination says that God gives Grace to those who will be saved but that does not mean God removed free will from them. Is it right or wrong?
I ask because it seems kind of pointless to give Grace to someone who won't be saved.sorta wrong, God gives His grace to everyone, but how that works out in someone's life is another question.
but correct in that He doesn't override anyone's freedom.
I ask because it seems kind of pointless to give Grace to someone who won't be saved.
Because they won't be saved.what makes you say it's pointless?
Because they won't be saved.
I don't know how else to explain it Father, God knows those people won't be saved so why give them Grace for?why does that make it pointless?
I don't know how else to explain it Father, God knows those people won't be saved so why give them Grace for?
How does it do that?grace is everywhere present. if grace is God's Uncreated Energies, then grace is what exposes and condemns the sinfulness of the unsaved.
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