Goodbye

[RC_NewProtestants]

So saying, RC, I will clarify my statement of before for you...

"But to be serious, knowing what we know (of what seperates us), how can we bring everyone together (since I care about them and love them also) theologically and spiritually (and emotionally) so that we stop this evil that is dividing us (and do what God wants us to do which is to love Him and share that love with others)?"

I think if we know what separates us is an attitude of condemnation than removing that attitude would be the first step in getting everyone together. As you recall the first line in the first post of this thread says:

Since some people here feel the need to continually demonize me and claim the Devil is using me,

I know that statement is true because I have been the subject of the same type of judgment by some on this forum. Do the people on this forum know that this separates them from other Christians? I think often they do and that separation is often a source of their pride, to declare others as evil is a way to make their views as being the remnant seem justifiable. They then can disregard the differences that the other person has on theology by their assumption that the other person is evil, a tool of the Devil.

It seems that there needs to be an attitude change where people can be more tolerant of different opinions and people examine those opinions to see if they have merit or not. There is no reason to hold to something if the reason is merely tradition just as there is no reason to hold to something for a merely speculative reason.

Image how you would feel if you were told your beliefs were of the Devil, it is no wonder some of the exchanges become quickly heated and hurtful. There seems to be something very wrong with the attitude of a good number of the of people here. And it appears that Nighteternal could not tolerate the abuse anymore and has left.

 

[reddogs]

I think if we know what separates us is an attitude of condemnation than removing that attitude would be the first step in getting everyone together. As you recall the first line in the first post of this thread says:



I know that statement is true because I have been the subject of the same type of judgment by some on this forum. Do the people on this forum know that this separates them from other Christians? I think often they do and that separation is often a source of their pride, to declare others as evil is a way to make their views as being the remnant seem justifiable. They then can disregard the differences that the other person has on theology by their assumption that the other person is evil, a tool of the Devil.

It seems that there needs to be an attitude change where people can be more tolerant of different opinions and people examine those opinions to see if they have merit or not. There is no reason to hold to something if the reason is merely tradition just as there is no reason to hold to something for a merely speculative reason.

Image how you would feel if you were told your beliefs were of the Devil, it is no wonder some of the exchanges become quickly heated and hurtful. There seems to be something very wrong with the attitude of a good number of the of people here. And it appears that Nighteternal could not tolerate the abuse anymore and has left.

Yes, I agree to a point, the devil is dividing us and is using many to do it, evil must not be allowed to manipulate our fellow brothers and sisters to attack good christian people who have not wronged anyone with their traditional SDA beliefs. We must stop the devil and his designs in his tracks see how we can bring unity to God's people in these end times and go back to study carefully Gods Word, the testimony of Jesus and let the Holy Spirit guide us as we cannot depend on mans wisdom to discern God's truth, prophecy and answers He has for us on these issues.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

Hey nighteternal

don't go. I personally am glad you are here. I like someone with an open mind. I just think you are expecting too much from some people. The traditionalist are not very opened minded and i think you are trying to convert the unconvertable. I have been here for months but have not seen one time where they have ever changed there mind on anything. i think your presence would be a terrible loss to the fourm. thanks

Ice dragon.

 

[Jon0388g]

And it appears that Nighteternal could not tolerate the abuse anymore and has left.

Nighteternal couldn't handle the abuse?

Anyone with two eyes can read the posts he contributed to this forum and the manner in which he delivered them.


Jon

 

[tall73]

Night Eternal,

I gotta admit, you did come on strong.

I hope you stick around, but if you don't, may God bless you.

 

[NightEternal]

___

 

[StormyOne]

unfortunate, but not surprising.... seems as though while some things might change, too much here remains the same....

 

[TrustAndObey]

Night, I don't have time for a lot of drama in my response which would basically say "straighten up, but please don't go".

I'll just say that I will miss giving you your deserved thwackings of the day. I will miss it tremendously.

You're like a freight train with no brakes, but I did always kinda admired that about you, in my own demented little way.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Here's one for the road, since you're determined to go....

 

[smooze]

remember to NEVER let anything or anyone steal your joy brother. LEaving a sub-forum is 1 thing but there are areas on Christianforums where you can fellowship and praise God together. EGW is dead she had insight on scriptures and If we all let the HOLY spirit in well we will ALL hear GOD's voice. Lets drop the EGW clause and focus on how we can encourage and build each other up not dispute what some said 200+ years ago really people. Umm so yah it wasn't EGW anyways who built the foundations of the SDA . SOOO I hope you don't leave and May GOD bless you and your enemies.

 

[Dathen]

So many people leaving. you may decide to return one day like I did. Weel I didn't really get to know you well, but good-bye.

 

[smooze]

remember to NEVER let anything or anyone steal your joy brother. LEaving a sub-forum is 1 thing but there are areas on Christianforums where you can fellowship and praise God together. EGW is dead she had insight on scriptures and If we all let the HOLY spirit in well we will ALL hear GOD's voice. Lets drop the EGW clause and focus on how we can encourage and build each other up not dispute what some said 200+ years ago really people. Umm so yah it wasn't EGW anyways who built the foundations of the SDA . SOOO I hope you don't leave and May GOD bless you and your enemies.

I get a warnig about this??? ummm I never said she wasnt a significant part of SDA church and its foundations but I dont think this was flaming her??? man this is really stupid you know . I think im leaving CF and take their warnings or whatever and stick it. People serious nursery school has less squabling.

 

[smooze]

contridictorary to everything i just said im NOT coming Back TALL keep in touch brother

 

[Adventist Dissident]

I get a warnig about this??? ummm I never said she wasnt a significant part of SDA church and its foundations but I dont think this was flaming her??? man this is really stupid you know . I think im leaving CF and take their warnings or whatever and stick it. People serious nursery school has less squabling.

johnathanSDAlivingword, hey you crack me up, you are funny. in one post you say "don't let anyone steal your joy". and in another post you say "stick it" . that is just halarious. funny funny funny ha ha ha ha ha ha funny funny funny. he he he he he he he he heeeeeee!!!!

 

[djconklin]

It is painfully obvious that questioning and challenging the SDA faith paradigm is not tolerated here, nor is any questioning of EGW, a woman who some posters here have clearly made into an untouchable idol who is beyond reproach and investigation.

You wanted to debate in a fellowship forum.

I've been investigating the claims made against EGW; they have all failed, always.

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

You wanted to debate in a fellowship forum.

I've been investigating the claims made against EGW; they have all failed, always.

Always failed? By who does such a determination come from? I remember the discussion of the quote that some present would be translated, it clearly did not become fulfilled the only way that it can be solved is to assume that it is a conditional prophecy which did not give any conditions.

Some here, perhaps it was you even said that since Paul used the "we" word when speaking about being alive for the second coming that Paul could be accused of giving a false prophecy. Even though that person would occasionally use the "we" in his own writing even though there was no other person's involved. It was merely the editorial we used to include others in the statement even though others were not involved in making the statement. Yet that is the kind of fallacious argument used to defend EGW statements. Please spare us this claims against EGW have always failed because it is simply not true. We now know that she in fact did copy material from others, she did write absurd things like volcanoes are caused by underground coal fires and the amalgamation of man and beast still seen in some races to day, and predictions which never were fulfilled.

We need to be realistic.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

You wanted to debate in a fellowship forum.

I've been investigating the claims made against EGW; they have all failed, always.

this is living in a fantasy world. she had a vision in which she was "shown" that that door of mercy was shut and jesus was going to recive his kingdom. That did not happen. she went back on this statement and then tried to hide the fact that she maid the statements.

You are wrong conklin and in denial. what you say is not credible. You are a follower of EGW and will do ANYTHING to support her.