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Good News, Really?

Discussion in 'Salvation (Soteriology)' started by gmm4j, Dec 25, 2012.

  1. Johnnz

    Johnnz Senior Veteran Supporter

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    The entire debate arises from a philosophical approach to scripture by the reformers, trying to line up in a systematic way (systematic theology) various verses that support or 'fit' their system. Today, biblical theology first attempts to understand the texts themselves, and with so much more information available to us today some older style formulations are seen as beginning from an inadequate textual basis as well as having 'bought in' to a worldly ('flesh') perspective where reason and logical formulations are accepted as one's basic framework.

    That both Calvinism and its variants and Arminianism can fire texts at one another ad infinitum indicates neither has an unassailable basis. Biblical theology sees election in a very different framework linked more to God's commitment to His promises than some kind of 'picking and choosing' of who will be in or out.

    That the debate is somewhat one of words with little evidence that the real life of Jesus is part of it all, notwithstanding the sincerity of believers who hold to either position. I have done a lot of direct evangelism over the years. Never has some divine determinism been a vital part of any conversation with non believers. Their concerns and hopes are in very different areas.

    John
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  2. gmm4j

    gmm4j Well-Known Member

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    Election from the foundation of the world based on an unconditional decree makes condemnation unreal to the elect, and makes the offer of salvation unreal to the non-elect. For the elect there is no bad news and for the non-elect there is no good news – even though Scripture indicates otherwise.

    Can there ever be good news for the non-elect?
     
  3. gmm4j

    gmm4j Well-Known Member

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    Not in the Calvinist system.
     
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