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Does anybody else find it interesting to refer to God as "I am"?

As in "I am God."

It is an expression that denotes God's existence. It can be translated as "I am that I am" or "I shall be that I shall be". It makes some sense since God is infinite. What can describe infinity except an all emcompassing name?
 
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The tetragrammaton (YHVH) is the formula of creation.

I refer you to the relevant chapter of Liber ABA.
Furthermore, if we alter the formula by inserting Shin, the fifth element of Spirit, we get YHShVH, or Yeshua.

This is called the pentagrammaton.
 
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"Once a man entered a jungle and saw a small animal on a tree. He came back and told another man that he had seen a creature of a beautiful red colour on a certain tree. The second man replied: "When I went into the jungle I too saw that animal. But why do you call it red? It is green. Another man who was present contradicted them both and insisted that it was yellow. Presently others arrived and contended that it was grey, violet, blue, and so forth and so on. At last they started quarrelling among themselves. To settle the dispute they all went to the tree. They saw a man sitting under it. On being asked, he replied: 'Yes, I live under this tree and I know the animal very well. All your descriptions are true. Sometimes it appears red, sometimes yellow, and at other times blue, violet, grey and so forth. It is a chameleon. And sometimes it has no colour at all. Now it has a colour, and now it has none".

Like the chameleon, God appears in different ways to different people. To the Hindus, He appears as Lord Shiva, Lord Vishnu, the Divine Mother Kali or Durga, and the various other Gods. To the Jews, He appears as Yahweh. To the Christians, He appears as the Holy Trinity. To the Muslims, He appears as Allah. To the Chinese, He appears as Guan Yin, the Jade Emperor and the other Chinese Gods. People claim that their view of God is the right one and that other views of God are wrong, just as the person who claimed the chameleon was red would not accept that it was blue. But in the end, they realised that this one animal has the ability to change its colour and be all the different colours that people saw.

“No one can say with finality that God is only 'this' and nothing else. He is formless, and again He has forms. For the bhakta (devotee) He assumes forms. But He is formless for the jnani (The Enlightened person), that is, for him who looks on the world as a mere dream. The bhakta feels that he is one entity and the world another. Therefore God reveals Himself to him as a Person. But the jnani-the Vedantist, for instance-always reasons, applying the process of 'Not this, not this'. Through this discrimination he realizes, by his inner perception, that the ego and the universe are both illusory, like a dream. Then the jnani realizes Brahman in his own consciousness. He cannot describe what Brahman is."

God is high above us. We cannot say that our view of God is the only right one, because we have not seen God. Who are we to limit God, who is unlimitless?

Both these quotes are from The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna. Sri Ramakrishna, (1836-1886) was a Bengali mystic who had a huge impact on the development of modern Hinduism. His chief disciple, Swami Vivekananda, not only helped revive Hinduism in India, but also introduced Hinduism to the West.
 
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Does anybody else find it interesting to refer to God as "I am"?

As in "I am God."

This very phrase is found in the Chandogya Upanishad. In Sanskrit is "Aham Brahma Asmi" or "I am Brahman". This means that there is no difference between our souls and God.
 
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And so only one person knew the truth. And the truth was narrowly defined.

The man under the tree is what we call a self-realised soul - a person at a high stage of spiritual evolution who has realised God and is able to guide others. Such a person has no attachment to anything material - he is in this world but not of it, since his mind is firmly fixed on God. Sri Ramakrishna was an example of such a person, as were many others. Jesus Christ and Muhammad were either self-realised souls or they were actual incarnations of the Lord Himself.
 
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The man under the tree is what we call a self-realised soul - a person at a high stage of spiritual evolution who has realised God and is able to guide others. Such a person has no attachment to anything material - he is in this world but not of it, since his mind is firmly fixed on God. Sri Ramakrishna was an example of such a person, as were many others. Jesus Christ and Muhammad were either self-realised souls or they were actual incarnations of the Lord Himself.

I would like you to keep in mind that the truth is narrowly defined.
 
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I would like you to keep in mind that the truth is narrowly defined.

What exactly do you mean by this?

Both these quotes are from The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna. Sri Ramakrishna, (1836-1886) was a Bengali mystic who had a huge impact on the development of modern Hinduism. His chief disciple, Swami Vivekananda, not only helped revive Hinduism in India, but also introduced Hinduism to the West.

since I can't post links, google 'stripping the gurus', click on the first result and read the chapter about ramakrishna.
 
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Originally Posted by JudaicChristian
"I would like you to keep in mind that the truth is narrowly defined."
What exactly do you mean by this?

It means that the truth is not broad and all encompassing. It means that by only logical deduction will a person come to the truth.
 
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Originally Posted by JudaicChristian
"I would like you to keep in mind that the truth is narrowly defined."

It means that the truth is not broad and all encompassing. It means that by only logical deduction will a person come to the truth.

What about inductive logic?
 
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explain to me how your beliefs stand up to logical deduction?
Mutation of species is a matter of fact, but with limits. It is true that the facts about evolution are often falsified, but do people take the time to evaluate it. Seldom ever.

1.There is or there is not a God.
2. Evolution is or is not true.
3. The evidence provided is true or false.
 
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Both are true from different prospectives.:thumbsup:


How so? :scratch:


Psalm 148:13
Let them praise the name of the LORD: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven.

Black and white here. Our creator - His name alone is excellent.

Isaiah 40:18 (NRS) "To whom then will you like G-d, or what likeness compare with him?"
 
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How so? :scratch:


Psalm 148:13
Let them praise the name of the LORD: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven.

Black and white here. Our creator - His name alone is excellent.

Isaiah 40:18 (NRS) "To whom then will you like G-d, or what likeness compare with him?"

Yahshua is Yahwah's salvation. Yahwah has His glory above earth and heaven, and Yahshua has his glory under heaven.
Acts 4:12
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."
Psalm 148:13
Let them praise the name of the LORD: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven.
 
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Yahshua is Yahwah's salvation. Yahwah has His glory above earth and heaven, and Yahshua has his glory under heaven.
Acts 4:12
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."
Psalm 148:13
Let them praise the name of the LORD: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven.

Tehillim 148:13
Actually,
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עַל-אֶרֶץ וְשָׁמָיִם On earth and heaven. אל = on
The book is on the table.
הספר על השלחן

You most certainly can't dismiss, Judaic-Christian, that
G-d's glory was in the burning bush (on earth), in the clouds (on earth) with the Israelites after leaving mitzrayim. Surrounding Moshe's face after each time he spoke with HaShem. His glory was in the Temple.

And may I ask what Jesus saved us from? I don't mean this "snidely". Perhaps you can explain the following because no preacher would answer when I was a christian. And it baffles me.

Shalom, growing up as a christian - these words were sung. "What can wash away my sins. Nothing but the blood of Jesus."

Now that I older and more wise with what the Bible teaches. I no longer believe this. Can someone explain to me why this belief is still held as truth? :scratch:


1) I find in the following passage that a flour offering is a substitute for a blood sacrifice if the person was too poor to bring and animal sacrifice.
2) I find in the following passage that The Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) is practiced yearly by Jews around the globe: Leviticus 23:27
3) I find in the following passage that monetary sacrifice serves for atonement Exodus 30:16
4)Non-Jews of Nineveh were forgiven of their evil deeds by fasting and repentance, and without blood sacrifice. Jonah 3:5
5)And G-d tells His children Israel to return to Him in prayer and forsake their sin instead of blood sacrifice. 2 Chronicles 7:13-14

Thanks for the nice note. I hope to have nice discussions with you. What will come of this is........your faith should be strengthened in what you believe, correct?
 
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