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Featured GOD'S NAME - IS IT IMPORTANT?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by LoveGodsWord, Jan 11, 2021.

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  1. LoveGodsWord

    LoveGodsWord Well-Known Member

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    So in your view what is the difference of 90% of the translations of Exodus 3:14 to "I AM WHO I AM"; "I AM THAT I AM" and "I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE"? I do not understand what your problem is with the OP did you want to explain yourself a bit more?
     
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    I've already refuted this red herring.

    YHWH has one name. What you posted consisted primarily of titles. That was the premise of our discourse. I find it baffling that you have derived from my words that there is a disagreement; yet you are unaware of what the disagreement is.

    Do you believe that Yahshua is YHWH, the Father, Eloihim almighty?
     
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    I didn't say that.

    Do you understand the difference between "I am." and "I will be?"

    Do you think that it's OK to change YHWH's word?
     
  4. LoveGodsWord

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    I see, I must have missed it. What did you refute and how does it effect the OP?
    Sorry dear friend most of the names of God are descriptions of God, not titles.
    Pehaps while your helping me to understand what your problem is with the OP you can answer my question now. Do you believe Jesus is God?
     
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    Do you consider a mistranslation to be a translation?
     
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    I asked you the difference in meaning between the two translations when 90% say "I AM WHO/THAT I AM" or "I WILL BE THAT I WILL BE"? When the meaning of YHWH / YAHWEH is “HE IS" or self existent. Do you believe Jesus is God? This is also relevant to the conversation. I will show why once I understand your view.
     
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    You're mistaken again; but you don't have to apologize my friend.

    Titles describe. Name designate.

    I am a father. There are many fathers in this world. I am a son. There are many sons in this world. I am a brother. There are many brothers in this world. These are titles which describe what I am; but these titles are not my name; nor do they designate who I am.
     
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    No need to apologize as I am not mistaken. Unlike the English language, all Hebrew names are descriptive. Father, son brother, in your example is the description of what the many are in your examples. So your examples do not make any sense to your argument. Whatever way you look at it they are all different descriptions of the father, son and brother of who I am. I asked you earlier do you believe Jesus is God? Is there a reason you are not answering this question?
     
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    Now that you recognize that there is a difference; I would encourage you to study how that might affect your doctrine.

    Hopefully you will recognize the difference between the Father and the Son as well. Do you believe in the Trinity?
     
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    Who said I did not recognize there is a difference? I asked you the difference in meaning between the two translations when 90% say "I AM WHO/THAT I AM" or "I WILL BE THAT I WILL BE"? If I did not know the difference how could I ask the question?
    I gather because your not answering my question you do not believe Jesus is God?
     
  11. HARK!

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    The verses that you posted in the OP are primarily, if not all, about YHWH. I asked you if you believe that Yahshua is YHWH?

    Is there a reason you are not answering this question?
     
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    So you do not believe in the Trinity?
     
  13. LoveGodsWord

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    Yes the reason is I asked you a question some time ago before you asked any questions that your continuing to ignore. Is there a reason you will not answer my question to you asking if you believe Jesus is God? If you do not want to answer the question you do not have to just say so.
     
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    Do you recognize the difference, or not?

    Why would you ask; if you know the difference?

    If you know the difference; why would you ask the question?
     
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    I asked the questions to see your view of what the difference is between the translations. If you do not want to answer the questions asked of you or share your view just say so. You do not have to if you do not want to. By not answering my questions though your not really sharing your view to be honest and seem to be hiding what you believe or not willing to share it for some reason for which I do not know why.
     
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    The subject of this thread is the name of our heavenly father; unless you are conflating the father with the son.

    Do you believe that they are distinct, or not? If so, why would you want to take your own thread off topic?
     
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    I am not taking my thread off topic. We are discussing the great "I AM" (name of God) I am happy to answer all your questions once you start answering mine considering I asked you first. Do you believe Jesus is God? The question is relevant to our conversation and the OP and the name of the God of the old testament.
     
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    I don't want to boldly assert what YHWH is becoming. I know that in the end, after the millennial reign, that all if his will be one; as it is written. However, I suspect that there is more to it than that alone. I won't boldly claim my unresolved insights.
     
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    So what your saying here is you do not know the difference between the two translations that 90% say "I AM WHO/THAT I AM" or "I WILL BE THAT I WILL BE" and your not able to prove what you believe right?
     
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    That's not his name. I thought you said that you recognized the difference between "I am," and "I will be."
     
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