God told me to preach against sin until sin is exceedingly sinful again

[joevberry3]

I have had a few people PM me, email me or even post messages on Christian Forums ridiculing me for preaching against sin. I have had one ask me why do i preach against this so much, even one that accused me of NOT preaching Love by preaching against sin so much.
This is my answer for all. I received this answer in my prayers and talks with God.
He told me to preach against sin until sin is exceedingly sinful again. Nothing wrong with preaching on Love, but SIN is what seperates us from God. Sin is what sends us to Hell. It is the MOST important message besides the message of salvation.
We see so many preachers and Pastor's trying to explain away sin instead of preaching against sin. I meet with people that tell me, "well you just dont understand what he/she did to me, i think God would understand." NO! It is sin!
Any thoughts?
God Bless,
Joe

 

[ChristianRocks]

I would agree on that sin is definitely downplayed in our world today. Sometimes people need a poke in the heart to really see their true condition.

 

[Jim B]

Joe,

I do not fault you for preaching against sin so long as you don’t preach against the sinner for whom Christ loves and for whom He so willingly laid down His life.

Hey, Joe, I love you – have prayed for you - but I don’t know you. How can I test the spirits to know if what you are telling me about what God told you is true or not? I can only take your word for this and, as much as I have enjoyed dialoguing with you, I cannot afford to do that. We are instructed to know those who labor among us.
I am sorry people are attacking you and, if indeed God has spoken to you about this, do what God has told you and ignore the critics.

I love ya,
Jim
\o/

 

[Evee]

preaching against sin is good but love is just as good.

 

[Evee]

For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word.
In the statement, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
Galatians 5-14

 

[Evee]

Joe,

I do not fault you for preaching against sin so long as you don’t preach against the sinner for whom Christ loves and for whom He so willingly laid down His life.

Hey, Joe, I love you – have prayed for you - but I don’t know you. How can I test the spirits to know if what you are telling me about what God told you is true or not? I can only take your word for this and, as much as I have enjoyed dialoguing with you, I cannot afford to do that. We are instructed to know those who labor among us.
I am sorry people are attacking you and, if indeed God has spoken to you about this, do what God has told you and ignore the critics.

I love ya,
Jim
\o/

Jim I agree no one should ever attack someone for following God.

 

[joevberry3]

Thanks Jim and Evee.
God Bless,
Joe

 

[Evee]

There seems to be so many watered down christians now days.
I believe it may be part of the great apostacy.
It is hard to tell one from the other.
the reason for this in my humble opinion is some Christians say I am saved and God loves me I have to do nothing.

 

[Trish1947]

At what point in time do we have no conciousness of sin? Paul said if we're walking in the Spirit we have no conciousness of sin. I find that true. But as soon as I start conferring with my flesh, I will find something I dont like. Alot of things I dont like, not the 10 biggies I find, but just small things like a thought, or a mean remark to my hubbie from PMS or something. LOL.

 

[Perceivence]

Preaching against sin is expressing deep love for your neighbour. Who can truly love his neighbour and watch him live a life of sin without telling him about it? How much more so for a Christian brother or sister who has been redeemed and is continuing in his/her old sinful ways?

But it is important amidst this preaching to always do it in love, to never forget its loving motive and to let the Holy Spirit guide you in love.

 

[joevberry3]

Preaching against sin is expressing deep love for your neighbour. Who can truly love his neighbour and watch him live a life of sin without telling him about it? How much more so for a Christian brother or sister who has been redeemed and is continuing in his/her old sinful ways?

But it is important amidst this preaching to always do it in love, to never forget its loving motive and to let the Holy Spirit guide you in love.

Glory to God! It is so awesome to see someone(especially one so young) that see's preaching against sin is LOVE.
Praise God, bless ya Perceivence!
I have been accused of being unloving cause i preach against sin and most of my posts deal with sin.
I am so thankful that a Pastor took the time to warn me of my sin years ago! I think that was the greatest Love anybody could have for another. So much Love, that he didnt want to see my soul in Hell.
God Bless,
Joe

 

[Trish1947]

Preaching against sin is expressing deep love for your neighbour. Who can truly love his neighbour and watch him live a life of sin without telling him about it? How much more so for a Christian brother or sister who has been redeemed and is continuing in his/her old sinful ways?

This is true, but we're to always try to convience the people that this is what God says about sin. Not what our thoughts are about it. Because then it becomes "he who is without sin, cast the first stone". When we give the word out what God says about sin, then the Holy Spirit can convict them to repent. It always has to be from Gods perspective. If my best friend tried to tell me to my face that I was a sinner, I'd think what right does she have to say that to me. But when I heard that God said I was a sinner, that frightened me to repent.

 

[joevberry3]

Very True Trish.

God Bless,
Joe

 

[Svt4Him]

Joe,

I do not fault you for preaching against sin so long as you don’t preach against the sinner for whom Christ loves and for whom He so willingly laid down His life.

As posted before:

Charles Finney stated, "God is not angry merely against the sin abstracted from the sinner, but against the sinner himself. Some persons have labored hard to set up this ridiculous and absurd abstraction, and would fain make it appear that God is angry at sin, yet not at the sinner. He hates the theft, but loves the thief. He abhors adultery, but is pleased with the adulterer. Now this is supreme nonsense. The sin has no moral character apart from the sinner. The act is nothing apart from the actor. The very thing that God hates and disapproves is not the mere event—the thing done in distinction from the doer; but it is the doer himself. It grieves and displeases Him that a rational moral agent, under His government, should array himself against his own God and Father, against all that is right and just in the universe. This is the thing that offends God. The sinner himself is the direct and the only object of his anger."

 

[joevberry3]

Very true svt4him!


God Bless

 

[altya]

It’s good to preach against sin to lost souls, but not to Christians who already accepted Christ and whose sin is washed away with the blood of Jesus.

God normally uses the Evangelic ministry to preach about sin.

 

[Godz Marine]

I have had one ask me why do i preach against this so much, even one that accused me of NOT preaching Love by preaching against sin so much.

Hey, I be that one. But something perplexes me once again conncerning your words. Where did I ever say that you preach against sin too much???? If you are going to accuse me of something then I hope you have the proof! All I said was that it seemed that you continually condemned those of the OSAS belief, continually ridiculing a portion of the Body of Christ. And yes, I accused you of not treating them with the love of God that we are to show forth from our hearts. We are called to hate the sin but not the sinner! Even the very clothes they wear but not them.

This is my answer for all. I received this answer in my prayers and talks with God. He told me to preach against sin until sin is exceedingly sinful again.

How can sin become exceedingly sinfull? This would have to be before the eyes of men to be "exceedingly." Sin is sin to God. None any worse than another save blasphmy of the Holy Spirit. Only man create degrees of sin. Ezekiel makes this quite clear.

Sin is what sends us to Hell. It is the MOST important message besides the message of salvation.

Doesn't the message of salvation deal with sin? Preaching about a problem doesn't bring results unless one also preaches how to turn from sin and how to avoid it. This is called repentence.

I am sorry if I come of sounding as though I am out to get you but your words are saying things other than apparently what you mean. Is there sin within the camp of the righteous? Sure there is. And preaching without love is one of them. Paul made this quite clear, that no matter what we do, if we do not have love by which we do it then all we do is for nothing. All of the preaching in the world is but a clanging cymbal without love.

Jesus, when dealing with the woman caught in the act of adultry did not preach to her about her sin. He simply told her that He didn't accuse her and that she was to go and sin no more. In fact, have you ever considered how she was caught in the act? Apparently the religious leaders were in the "right place at the right time" to catch her in the act so as to present her to Christ to see what He would do. Notice Jesus didn't even confront the sin of the one who must of been peeking in the window to catch her! Or perhaps even the one she committed adultry with!

Jesus rarelt preached against sin itself but rather preached and taught on how to avoid and or overcome it. Same as Paul and the rest of the NT writers. The thing Christ not only preached against but was perplexed by and at times confronted was unbelief. Salvation, love, anfd faith are the three things that are the most important to one's walk with God. If we preach these three things then we will cover a multitude of topics which includes the avoidance and ability to overcome sin.

 

[Trish1947]

The sinner himself is the direct and the only object of his anger."

So are you saying that if I was committing all those sins below before I came to him, that he hates me? Not only my sin, but me also? Then would not that mean that he hated me first, then when I repent he loves me now. I don't think thats scriptural. While we we're yet sinners Christ loved us, and gave himself for us.

 

[joevberry3]

Hey, I be that one. But something perplexes me once again conncerning your words. Where did I ever say that you preach against sin too much???? If you are going to accuse me of something then I hope you have the proof! All I said was that it seemed that you continually condemned those of the OSAS belief, continually ridiculing a portion of the Body of Christ. And yes, I accused you of not treating them with the love of God that we are to show forth from our hearts. We are called to hate the sin but not the sinner! Even the very clothes they wear but not them.



How can sin become exceedingly sinfull? This would have to be before the eyes of men to be "exceedingly." Sin is sin to God. None any worse than another save blasphmy of the Holy Spirit. Only man create degrees of sin. Ezekiel makes this quite clear.



Doesn't the message of salvation deal with sin? Preaching about a problem doesn't bring results unless one also preaches how to turn from sin and how to avoid it. This is called repentence.

I am sorry if I come of sounding as though I am out to get you but your words are saying things other than apparently what you mean. Is there sin within the camp of the righteous? Sure there is. And preaching without love is one of them. Paul made this quite clear, that no matter what we do, if we do not have love by which we do it then all we do is for nothing. All of the preaching in the world is but a clanging cymbal without love.

Jesus, when dealing with the woman caught in the act of adultry did not preach to her about her sin. He simply told her that He didn't accuse her and that she was to go and sin no more. In fact, have you ever considered how she was caught in the act? Apparently the religious leaders were in the "right place at the right time" to catch her in the act so as to present her to Christ to see what He would do. Notice Jesus didn't even confront the sin of the one who must of been peeking in the window to catch her! Or perhaps even the one she committed adultry with!

Jesus rarelt preached against sin itself but rather preached and taught on how to avoid and or overcome it. Same as Paul and the rest of the NT writers. The thing Christ not only preached against but was perplexed by and at times confronted was unbelief. Salvation, love, anfd faith are the three things that are the most important to one's walk with God. If we preach these three things then we will cover a multitude of topics which includes the avoidance and ability to overcome sin.

That would be you? No Greg, your mistaken brother! I havent even spoken with you in about a week i think, so NO this thread has NOTHING to do with you.
But, the thread you just started after replying to this one is about me. I will let the mod's decide.
You have a problem with God telling me to preach agaisnt sin until it is exceedingly sinful again? Take that up with God my Brother, not me. He didnt tell me til it becomes exceedingly sinful to HIM, but to MAN!
God Bless,
Joe

 

[joevberry3]