Yeah, I can see how you came to that conclusion...
Actually, I don't think that you do.
What about the collapse of hydrogen clouds and plate tectonic movements? Are you trying to use this as evidence to support your case?
What about DNA?
What about birds?
the fact that our planet is uniquely setup to support life
And the puddle says, "Look, someone made this hole exactly to fit my volume."
CouldiEver, puddles take the shape of the hole they are in... holes aren't made to conform to the shape of the puddle.
and every other complex and beautiful thing in nature are just an accident by blind, unintelligent, and disordered naturalistic processes rather than created by an orderly and omnipotent God ...
I wonder which God created this?
it's all becoming clear to me now too. I wonder why I even believed in God...
No, you are right... your poor arguments made me realize that we were all created by a Genie...
While I am clearly joking, your statement does not follow through to your conclusion as my above paragraph illustrates.
No comment.
Religions are man-made belief systems that attempt to reach to God by doing rituals or things that may just, if we do it well enough and enough times, allow God to prevent throwing a lightning bolt our way.
The origin of religion is not God, rather man. That said, what a religion is based on may be that of God, i.e. Christianity being based on the life, death, and resurrection of God incarnate human flesh. It is interesting, all the major world religions are about us doing something to get to God, yet Christianity is about God doing something to get to us. That, I believe, is a major and critical difference. But I won't get into this now.
Religions are man made... but yours isn't because your religious scriptures say so... hmmm...
I think in Math, what you do on one side of the equation, should be done on the other side too. If Religions are man made, christianity would not be an exception.
Actually, when I'm confronted with someone who uses "science" against my faith, I am more than able to refute them with evidence that is based in fact, or show them how their interpretation of the evidence is false or based on their unprovable precepts.
hmmm...
Christianity is not just some religion that requires blind faith without evidence ... no, no, no, we have reasons for what we believe and should always be ready to give an answer for what we believe (1 Peter 3:15).
If you had evidence, then it wouldn't be called faith.
I would also readily point out that science as we know it only really began to accelerate in the West when the scientists believed God as creator and the Bible as His infallible revelation. As one example, I submit George Washington Carver (1864-1943) who based his work in agricultural chemistry on the Bible and the promises and insights therein. He said, "Without God to draw aside the curtain, I would be helpless."
And as science progressed, the more agnostic scientists began to get.... and now the leading scientists are atheists.
I think that your mind is already made up and nothing that I or anyone else will say can convince you other wise unless you become more open to our responses.
Actually, no... Godlessheathen, you, me or anyone else has no choice in what we believe. Our thinking pattern is made up by a collective bundle of experiences.
Similarly, since we see an orderly and complex world, we have every reason to believe that it is created by an orderly and intelligent creator,
Reading the watchmaker lately?
By "ordered and complex world", do you mean the "cities" humans have built? If not, why do humans build cities if the world is ordered?
And, have you done experiments and compared it with universes which weren't created by God to see the differences?
not by unordered, and unintelligent, and completely blind and random processes. It is absurd to suggest that order can come from unorder, IMHO.
There is nothing random about the physics that are being played out in our universe. Just because you don't know when Mars will be closests to Earth again doesn't make it random or unpredictable... astronomers would be able to tell you the answer to that.
