God is Learned

[Old Ned]

Ok spurred by another post, could someone explain to me, if there is only "One true God"
How is it that there are people on this planet who have never heard of such?

Does God not have the power to form belief without the help of man?

Surely each God is simply a learned piece of knowledge, so if no one had ever told you about God, this would mean you have no knowledge of his/her/it's existence and therefore do not believe or love in any such deity.

Would this then mean that in the realm of the Christian bible, these innocent untaught people would not be allowed into heaven for non belief?

If this is the case, why would God not teach them himself or send someone to teach them.

Does this mean that God has no power and relies on man to spread his own word?

 

[AV1611VET]

Ok spurred by another post, could someone explain to me, if there is only "One true God"
How is it that there are people on this planet who have never heard of such?

You can't find 2,000,000 people in a desert, given their itinerary; and you're going to single out those who have never heard of one God?

For the record, I believe God gives those who have never heard a special ability to interpret God in nature.

Unlike the scientists who interpret nature and conclude God doesn't exist, these guys have the ability to "see" God in nature, to the point that they will be held accountable and found "without excuse."

 

[Lost Angel]

You can't find 2,000,000 people in a desert, given their itinerary; and you're going to single out those who have never heard of one God?

For the record, I believe God gives those who have never heard a special ability to interpret God in nature.

Unlike the scientists who interpret nature and conclude God doesn't exist, these guys have the ability to "see" God in nature, to the point that they will be held accountable and found "without excuse."

Biblical citation please.

 

[AV1611VET]

Biblical citation please.

For what? I said a lot there.

 

[Lost Angel]

You can't find 2,000,000 people in a desert, given their itinerary; and you're going to single out those who have never heard of one God?

For the record, I believe God gives those who have never heard a special ability to interpret God in nature.

Unlike the scientists who interpret nature and conclude God doesn't exist, these guys have the ability to "see" God in nature, to the point that they will be held accountable and found "without excuse."

The majority of scientists believe in god.

Evidence biblical or otherwise of this special ability to see Jehovah in nature?

It was my understanding that you must come to God through Jesus.

 

[AV1611VET]

The majority of scientists believe in god.

No comment.

Evidence biblical or otherwise of this special ability to see Jehovah in nature?

Psalm 19, Romans 1

It was my understanding that you must come to God through Jesus.

Is there any other way?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Is there any other way?

Sure, why not?

 

[AV1611VET]

Sure, why not?

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

 

[PsychoSarah]

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Saying god himself could not independently reveal himself, if he so chose?

 

[AV1611VET]

Saying god himself could not independently reveal himself, if he so chose?

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

Christ, not god.

 

[AV1611VET]

Christ, not god.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

 

[PsychoSarah]

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

I usually view that as more what they represent are one rather than Jesus literally being god. That would make god his own father (since Jesus is god's son).

 

[AV1611VET]

I usually view that as more what they represent are one rather than Jesus literally being god. That would make god his own father (since Jesus is god's son).

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
John 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
John 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
John 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

 

[Old Ned]

You can't find 2,000,000 people in a desert, given their itinerary; and you're going to single out those who have never heard of one God?
"

Ok what? I'm going to single out every last man, woman and child who has never heard of one of the Gods. Since Christianity is your faith, we can use that.

If someone has not heard of your God, does this deny them entry to the Christian heaven? They have not chosen to not believe, they have just never heard of it.
Or are you saying that if you don't automatically know God created everything and that you must love him/his son to get into heaven... then you don't deserve to get into heaven?

How did you initially find out about Christianity and God AV?... Did you just figure it out? or were you taught it?

But, you didn't answer my main question.

Does this mean that God has no power and relies on man to spread his own word?

 

[AV1611VET]

If someone has not heard of your God, does this deny them entry to the Christian heaven?

I've answered that already; but I'll do it again:

Although they have not heard the plan of salvation with their ears, I believe they are given a special ability to see the plan of salvation with their eyes; to the point that they will be held accountable come the judgment day.

Can I make that any plainer?

 

[Old Ned]

I've answered that already; but I'll do it again:

Although they have not heard the plan of salvation with their ears, I believe they are given a special ability to see the plan of salvation with their eyes; to the point that they will be held accountable come the judgment day.

Can I make that any plainer?

Ah, so they don't need to know of God, they should/will accept God through seeing the beauty of the world around them?
And this will get them into heaven?

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Where do you find this part out? Or are we now making exceptions?

 

[AV1611VET]

Ah, so they don't need to know of God, they should/will accept God through seeing the beauty of the world around them?
And this will get them into heaven?

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Where do you find this part out? Or are we now making exceptions?

Are you being obtuse on purpose?

They see THE PLAN OF SALVATION in nature.

Do you know what that means?

That means that the Gospel message of Jesus Christ is embedded in nature.

They either accept Jesus Christ, like anyone else has to, or perish in Hell forever.

 

[Old Ned]

Are you being obtuse on purpose?



That means that the Gospel message of Jesus Christ is embedded in nature.

They either accept Jesus Christ, like anyone else has to, or perish in Hell forever.

No I'm not being anything on purpose.

How is the Gospel message of Jesus embedded in nature?

How could you know?

Is it a case of, if you have been told about "The plan" then you must follow Jesus, but if know one told you about "The plan" then you don't actually need to know about Jesus, because Jesus is in nature?

How do you see Jesus in Nature?... And please do not find a picture of an orange or something that looks like Jesus.

And how do you accept Jesus if you never even heard the name, let alone the story?

They see THE PLAN OF SALVATION in nature.

Do you know what that means?

Clearly not. Please do explain.

 

[CabVet]

Are you being obtuse on purpose?

They see THE PLAN OF SALVATION in nature.

Do you know what that means?

That means that the Gospel message of Jesus Christ is embedded in nature.

They either accept Jesus Christ, like anyone else has to, or perish in Hell forever.

Oh yeah, it is in "nature", is that why the Bible says this:

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Why would it need to be preached if it is in "nature"?