God creates, He just doesn't know *what* He creates

[BL2KTN]

It's not a game. I'll just put you on ignore.

Yep, stick your fingers in your ears... that'll show him.

 

[Aldebaran]

Yeah, it would offer them science and a creation myth. Both sides.

You sure like judging what you don't agree with. How about allowing the students decide what is science and what is myth? Or are you not really for people thinking for themselves after all?

But creation is not another "side" to anything, it's not even a viable alternative to evolution. It's incomparable.

Perhaps Christian preachers should preach Islamic doctrine alongside Christian doctrine to their followers, at least it would offer Christians a viable alternative that is comparable.

We're now talking about public schools, not churches. "Public" means the people should decide what's taught. A church is a private entity.

 

[Blessedj01]

Nope, not buying that.

That's fine, I'm not buying your story either.

Because this is the open part of the forum and I can say my opinon within limits.

That didn't answer the question.

There is a mix here in Washington State, most are "liberal" but there is a growing trend in "Fundies" and "Evangelical" Christians in the streets lately.

According to a non-biased source (you), right?

No, just tired of Christians telling me they have Truth with no evidence.

Likewise, I get tired of being told the "truth" by non-Christians on a Christian forum.

Because it is emotional, and so it can bypass peoples reason. That is why I see it as emotional manipulation, because it is not based on evidence.

That is not proof of any manipulation.

I have, and the rest hasn't panned out either.

If you have, you haven't presented the Biblical claims properly.

So it is just about being saved from something that has been invented and doesn't exist?

Again, why do you care if it's all just fluff?

I am basing it on my experance with some Christians and experesing my opinon of those Christians. Most Christians I know are not like this, but then most of them are not trying to "save" me.

No, you're projecting your false perceptions of our experience.

Funny, I know some Christians that disagree with you. Most are back in history, but not all.

Christians can disagree all they want, I only deal in what I believe to be correct about Jesus Christ. He doesn't force Himself on people.

You don't see it as emotional manipulation, I do and have experanced it and had friends experance it. I hope you never have to deal with it.

Emotional manipulation shouldn't happen. However, often it is called that even when it is not that at all.

You're probably at the stage where someone could simply tell you that Jesus loves you and you'd get disproportionately angry.

I agree with have reached an impasse. So you can reply to this if you want, I won't reply.

 

[madaz]

Are you a prophet or something?

Haha no airy fairy prophecies from me, just another correct prediction based purely on observation of his behaviour pattern.

I predict Paulos23 to be next...

 

[madaz]

We're now talking about public schools, not churches. "Public" means the people should decide what's taught. A church is a private entity.

You live in a secular country so my comment may have sounded unusual to you, but in this country we have government paid Christian ministries teaching in our public schools.

 

[Paulos23]

Haha no airy fairy prophecies from me, just another correct prediction based purely on observation of his behaviour pattern.

I predict Paulos23 to be next...

At this time though I have given up on talking to him on this point. I don't think he understands, or if he does he doesn't think it is happening on the scale I see it happening.

Either way, my point is said. Even if I did go a little overboard on it.

 

[Radagast]

Pretty sure this argument makes for a highly limited, non omniscient deity that most Christians would not be ok with

Indeed, from a Christian point of view the O.P. is heretical.

 

[Gottservant]

Indeed, from a Christian point of view the O.P. is heretical.

It does not violate either the reason for God's creation, nor the order.

If you don't want to substantiate what you are saying, don't say it.

 

[Blessedj01]

I'm in hospital so excuse my writing. I'm using the voice thing I just want to say that if you are trying to seek the truth rely only on the word of God and not philosophy.

 

[Blessedj01]

The only measure of truth is the word. At least on the very basics it is easy to agree. God has defined attributes that do not change.

 

[Gottservant]

Thanks for contributing.

I am sorry you couldn't appreciate the suggestion I was making in the light I was intending to make it.

Perhaps when we reach Heaven, I can show you whom it is I was thinking of and why they think that way.

 

[Blessedj01]

I'm not sure what you mean but take care bro. God bless.

 

[madaz]

At this time though I have given up on talking to him on this point. I don't think he understands, or if he does he doesn't think it is happening on the scale I see it happening.

Either way, my point is said. Even if I did go a little overboard on it.

Fair enough.