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The Egyptians -- and for the record, God whipped the primary deity of the Canaanites as well:
1 Kings 18:26 And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made.
27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.
28 And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them.
29 And it came to pass, when midday was past, and they prophesied until the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that there was neither voice, nor any to answer, nor any that regarded.
And He whipped the primary deity of the Philistines:
1 Samuel 5:1 ¶ And the Philistines took the ark of God, and brought it from Ebenezer unto Ashdod.
2 When the Philistines took the ark of God, they brought it into the house of Dagon, and set it by Dagon.
3 And when they of Ashdod arose early on the morrow, behold, Dagon was fallen upon his face to the earth before the ark of the LORD. And they took Dagon, and set him in his place again.
4 And when they arose early on the morrow morning, behold, Dagon was fallen upon his face to the ground before the ark of the LORD; and the head of Dagon and both the palms of his hands were cut off upon the threshold; only the stump of Dagon was left to him.
5 Therefore neither the priests of Dagon, nor any that come into Dagon's house, tread on the threshold of Dagon in Ashdod unto this day.
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Tantalus couldn't trick them, but they were good enough at fooling each other. Like, Zeus's dad fell for the lamest trick on earth. So at least in some myths, they clearly aren't omniscient.
Well, aside from the way Osiris was tricked into getting into his own coffin, there were also some interesting beliefs about the judging of dead people's souls. It looks like you could get Egyptian gods to admit you into the afterlife by saying the right things and not letting your heart confess your sins.
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The Greek gods for the most part aren't referring to the first cause. Those are mostly gods. There's also a deeper aspect embedded within the religion which would only have been familiar to them. For example Zeus, Poseidon and Hades are what we refer to as spirit mind and body respectively.
Highly cryptic and complicated.
But the supreme God or what we call God was known to them as "Neter".
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Greg fails at the basics of ancient history too? Yeesh.
Zeus ruled the heavens, Poseidon the waters, and Hades the underground.
The Egyptian god of the earlier dynasties was called Horus, son of Isis and Osiris, sometimes Ra in the later dynasties. Khert Neter is where you go when you die.
Zeus ruled the heavens, Poseidon the waters, and Hades the underground.
The Egyptian god of the earlier dynasties was called Horus, son of Isis and Osiris, sometimes Ra in the later dynasties. Khert Neter is where you go when you die.
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Apparently the Exodus 12:12, which he quoted, tells that the LORD will execute judgment against them. People and beasts are punished by killing (in loving manner) their first born. Quite logical though, beasts were guilty because... ???
Ugh, sorry. God works in mysterious ways.
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Because that's how the Egyptians viewed them; and God treated them from their perspective.
The Ten Plagues were not just arbitrary plagues -- they were aimed at Egyptian deities, and showed God's mastery over them.
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I had a cheeseburger the other day.
What was the cow that was killed to provide it guilty of?
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From what I understand (I'm an ex-Christian), it was sort of a propaganda mechanism to say 'my God, Yahweh, is stronger than your gods'. One facet of this is that the first few plagues were repeatable on a smaller scale by the Egyptian sorcerers. Than Yahweh kicks it into the next gear with plagues that they cannot reproduce even on a small scale.
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