The problem here is covering every single aspect allowing no escape for anyone. While I agree with the OP I'm nor the OP are promoting Sunday as a ritual day of obligation.
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The problem here is covering every single aspect allowing no escape for anyone. While I agree with the OP I'm nor the OP are promoting Sunday as a ritual day of obligation.No bro, don't go digging into past postings, lets stick with here and now. You agreed with the OP. She asserted that Hebrews 4 refers to sunday. Are you now asserting that as well?
OK then I misspoke. I'm not into the beliefs of the Orthodox Church of any variety.Ok then, your opinion does not coincide with orthodox in this particular matter, contrary to your previous statement.
You wouldn't have a verse for your assumption, didn't think so
The Passover will be Kept during the Millennium Ezekiel 45:21 In Remembrance of Him
Daniel 7(Daniel 7:25) My emphasis here is on scripture that says the Lord has changed times and seasons.
Acts 15:21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”Act 15:5 And some of those who were of the sect of the Pharisees, who believed, rose up from among them , saying that they ought to circumcise them and enjoin them to keep the law of Moses.
Act 15:6 And the apostles and the elders were gathered together to see about this matter.
Act 15:8 And the heart-knowing God bore them witness, giving them the Holy Spirit as to us also,
Act 15:9 and put no difference between us and them, having purified their hearts by faith.
Act 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, by putting a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?
Act 15:19 Wherefore *I* judge, not to trouble those who from the nations turn to God;
Act 15:20 but to write to them to abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from what is strangled, and from blood.
In the above scriptures some the sect of Pharisees were saying the new gentile believers had to be circumcised and keep the law of Moses. The Apostles and elders decided since the Jews were unable to to keep them why tie down the new believers with them since in our covenant our salvation is based on faith and not sacrifice. So they told us to stay away from pollution of idols and fornication, what is strangled and from blood.
Not one thing was said about us having to keep the Jewish Sabbath
The Sabbath of the O.T. was a type and shadow of Jesus being our Sabbath, our day of rest, fulfilling all requirements of the perfect sacrifice that would end the religious Sabbath, He is the permanent rest for us.
The various elements of the Sabbath symbolized the coming of the Messiah, who would provide a permanent rest for His people. Once again the example of resting from our labors comes into play. With the establishment of the Old Testament Law, the Jews were constantly "laboring" to make themselves acceptable to God. Their labors included trying to obey a myriad of do’s and don’ts of the ceremonial law, the Temple law, the civil law, etc. Of course they couldn’t possibly keep all those laws, so God provided an array of sin offerings and sacrifices so they could come to Him for forgiveness and restore fellowship with Him, but only temporarily. Just as they began their physical labors after a one-day rest, so, too, did they have to continue to offer sacrifices.Hebrews 10:1 tells us that the law "can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship." But these sacrifices were offered in anticipation of the ultimate sacrifice of Christ on the cross, who "after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right of God" (Hebrews 10:12). Just as He rested after performing the ultimate sacrifice, He sat down and rested—ceased from His labor of atonement because there was nothing more to be done, ever. Because of what He did, we no longer have to "labor" in law-keeping in order to be justified in the sight of God. Jesus was sent so that we might rest in God and in what He has provided.
Act 15:5 And some of those who were of the sect of the Pharisees, who believed, rose up from among them , saying that they ought to circumcise them and enjoin them to keep the law of Moses.
Act 15:6 And the apostles and the elders were gathered together to see about this matter.
Act 15:8 And the heart-knowing God bore them witness, giving them the Holy Spirit as to us also,
Act 15:9 and put no difference between us and them, having purified their hearts by faith.
Act 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, by putting a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?
Act 15:19 Wherefore *I* judge, not to trouble those who from the nations turn to God;
Act 15:20 but to write to them to abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from what is strangled, and from blood.
In the above scriptures some the sect of Pharisees were saying the new gentile believers had to be circumcised and keep the law of Moses. The Apostles and elders decided since the Jews were unable to to keep them why tie down the new believers with them since in our covenant our salvation is based on faith and not sacrifice. So they told us to stay away from pollution of idols and fornication, what is strangled and from blood.
Not one thing was said about us having to keep the Jewish Sabbath
The Sabbath of the O.T. was a type and shadow of Jesus being our Sabbath, our day of rest, fulfilling all requirements of the perfect sacrifice that would end the religious Sabbath, He is the permanent rest for us.
The various elements of the Sabbath symbolized the coming of the Messiah, who would provide a permanent rest for His people. Once again the example of resting from our labors comes into play. With the establishment of the Old Testament Law, the Jews were constantly "laboring" to make themselves acceptable to God. Their labors included trying to obey a myriad of do’s and don’ts of the ceremonial law, the Temple law, the civil law, etc. Of course they couldn’t possibly keep all those laws, so God provided an array of sin offerings and sacrifices so they could come to Him for forgiveness and restore fellowship with Him, but only temporarily. Just as they began their physical labors after a one-day rest, so, too, did they have to continue to offer sacrifices.Hebrews 10:1 tells us that the law "can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship." But these sacrifices were offered in anticipation of the ultimate sacrifice of Christ on the cross, who "after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right of God" (Hebrews 10:12). Just as He rested after performing the ultimate sacrifice, He sat down and rested—ceased from His labor of atonement because there was nothing more to be done, ever. Because of what He did, we no longer have to "labor" in law-keeping in order to be justified in the sight of God. Jesus was sent so that we might rest in God and in what He has provided.
2 Corinthians 3:13-15
And are not like Moses, who put a veil on his face so that the sons of Israel would not gaze at the end of that which was being done away with.
But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.
Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.
Now it is because they "would not gaze at the end of that which was being done away with."Why Is that the case with Judah
It is not because they didn't seek after Righteousness, It was because that they didn't seek it by Faith... Romans 9:31-32 Matthew 23:23
and a mystery of iniquity has gripped christianity
a veil remains
Now it is because they "would not gaze at the end of that which was being done away with."
Note that the verse says that 'Only in Christ' is the veil removed so contrary to what you said the veil does not remain when one is 'In Christ' (in grace)Why Is that the case with Judah
It is not because they didn't seek after Righteousness, It was because that they didn't seek it by Faith... Romans 9:31-32 Matthew 23:23
and a mystery of iniquity has gripped christianity
a veil remains
Note that the verse says that 'Only in Christ' is the veil removed so contrary to what you said the veil does not remain when one is 'In Christ' (in grace)
Note that the verse says that 'Only in Christ' is the veil removed so contrary to what you said the veil does not remain when one is 'In Christ' (in grace)
read it again
2 Corinthians 3:13-15
And are not like Moses, who put a veil on his face so that the sons of Israel would not gaze at the end of that which was being done away with.
But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.
Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.
That was written as an example for new covenant believers
Everywhere I have professed not to be a day worshipper whether Saturday or Sunday but for you to judge me on days is going against what the bible says. Your liberty is being used as an excuse for judging others in an holier than tho manner. Remember only the publican was justified not the Pharisee.Its my belief that a person who believes one day is holier than another, has not yet stepped beyond the veil. THe veil in my opinion, is a place of grace not legalism. Sure there are thing that Christians know to be right and wrong, but I don't believe that observing certain days are among them.
People often become context Nazis (forgive my use of the term but its popular) and they forget that the whole doctrine of Christ is a context of the spirit not the letter. What is paul saying in Galatians 5-6? Is he merely rebuking circumcision? No, hes also exhorting liberty too. That liberty is seen in understanding works of flesh and fruit of the spirit. There are no holy days mentioned in either the works of flesh or fruit of the spirit.
Why can we not just put faith in this understanding alone? Why must we need to put ourselves under this veil of legalism? Its about works of flesh and fruit of the spirit, this is the ministration of the spirit that paul talks about, in my opinion.
And the New Covenant is with Israel and Judah Only Jeremiah 31:33-35 Hebrews 8:8-10
and the New Covenant says that He will Write the Same Torah upon hearts of Flesh
They Followed the Old after the letter, as if it were by works, but not by faith
So when YESHUA comes, A free Gift, a stumblingblock, The Torah remains, and blessed is the man to whom YAH imputes Righteousness, Delights in His Torah Psalms 40:8
The problem was not His Righteousness, It was they thought they could attain it without Faith
christianity now says, we have faith Romans 3:31
the hardness in part of christianity/ Israel if they are saved, is not the hardness of Judah
This is the blindness in part, hardness of heart of today's typical believer Hosea 8:12
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