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Good luck (and a prayer for you too).

Don't give up, something as simple as atypical weather can wipe out all efforts. (we live in a hail storm area here, so it isn't unusual for me to have to "redo" my gardens some years, same with drought or intense rain, or a flukey cold night.)

Here are a couple of basics.

Merrygolds are a great starter plant for flowers. They are easy to grow, easy to revive if you've nearly killed them, and they have bright splashy colors. Look for the "dwarf" or "miniature" kind, and use them to creat boarders around flowers that might not make it to dress up the place. I will also transplant them out of the boarder when I thin them, and replace things that have died in pots and containers.

Zinnias are similar, but taller, so they are fun to plant in flower beds that may not take off as you had planned.

Neither is a perennial (they don't come back next year), but once they have stopped blooming and totally dried out in the fall, you can collect the seeds out of the pods where the flower was, keep them in a baggie (with a paper towel inside so they don't get moldy or musty), and replant them the next year. Saves money.

Irises are a great bulb to plant that comes back every year, and rabbits and deer don't like the way they taste (unlike Hasta's, tulips, and lillies...they see those and come running!)

All of these unforunately lack pretty smell.

For perennials with fragrance, try Peonnies (so easy), Flox, Daisy, Sweet Pea, Carnation and Columbines. Buy them already started at the store. If you do them from seeds, you have to start really early, and be ever SO gentle, and harden them up before you put them outside (that means to set them out in sun, wind and cooler nights).

Lilac bushes area really rewarding hedges too.

THAT's just the flowers! (for starters)

Easy Veggies.

Peas, as long as frost is gone, they are ready to go in the ground. If you have a fense, or anything they can vine on, find the sugar-snap/snow peapod varieties (less bending to pick), and you can eat the pods (avoid shelling, and more healthy for you)

Lettuce and spinache are also good to plant right after frost is gone, but be careful to keep them watered. If you forget a day with peas, no big deal, but some lettuces and spinache are realy touchy about heat and water. Read the seed packets carefully on these to see if the desired climate matches where you are.

Squash
Zuccinni and yellow summer squash can be started indoors or in the ground and grow fast and easy. BE SURE TO BUY THE BUSH VARIETIES or they will sprawl all over your garden. Save the sprawling space for other squashes, melons and cukes...though those are a little less hardy, need a little more attention, but are not too bad to grow. Do those last ones only if you have space. There are some bush varieties of cucumber now too, come to think of it!

If you get zuccinni going, PM me later to ask me the Zuccinni baby story. :D

Tomatoes:
Don't start them from seed, it takes too long, buy ones that are thick unwilted plants, no taller than a foot for cherry, pear and grape tomatoes and no taller than a foot and a half for others including Roma. All those I mentioned, plus BIG BOY, EARLY GIRL and FIRST LADY are pretty solid in giving you back tomatoes. Just enjoy them the first year, then do some reading on how to produce more tomatoes over time on how to tend to them if you really get into it. NOTE they love fertilizer and water.

Beans and corn can grow fine, but you need to be on top of them for thinning, weeding, watering and harvesting to avoid them getting tough, wimpy or eaten by critters. Potatoes are also easy, but find out if you need to mound them or make indentations for your climate.

Carrots radishes and parsnips are fun to put in the ground together, they have different growing rates, and the radishes can actually thin the other two for you in some ways. You can leave the carrots and parsnips in the ground PAST the first frost, and they get sweeter, but they take some work over the summer.

PERENNIALS in your veggie garden:

Rhubarb, chives and dill are fun to see come back dill can tought to get going, but once it is there, it is nice to have.

Asperagus is also one that comes back, but it takes 2 to 3 years to mature to the point that you can eat it! Just plan on planting a new round each year, so in three years, you have a steady supply going (about 16 plants can give you some joy).

LAST, FERTILIZER: (NOT FOR PEPPERS, they want you to be mean to them!) I compost all my leftover scraps (no meat or dairy...bacteria an pest issues) and use the runnoff from it, but I also use Miracle grow...especially on my flowers. BUT a really cheap fertilizer is in most people's kitchens. When you empty out your leftover coffee and coffee grounds, just put both together, add water, swirl it around, and dump it on some plant that needs love. GREAT fertilizer that doesn't burn out the plant.

O.K. I threw a lot out there, you may know some of it already. Anyway have fun, and PM me to let me know how it goes!

P.S. If your climate is hot, work weed and water in the early AM or late PM... the plants get to drink without the sun evaporating it before it reaches the roots. If you have a cooler climate that stays around 70 degrees most summer days, water in the day to avoid mildew, mold and root rot at night.
 
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Good luck (and a prayer for you too).

Don't give up, something as simple as atypical weather can wipe out all efforts. (we live in a hail storm area here, so it isn't unusual for me to have to "redo" my gardens some years, same with drought or intense rain, or a flukey cold night.)

Here are a couple of basics.

Merrygolds are a great starter plant for flowers. They are easy to grow, easy to revive if you've nearly killed them, and they have bright splashy colors. Look for the "dwarf" or "miniature" kind, and use them to creat boarders around flowers that might not make it to dress up the place. I will also transplant them out of the boarder when I thin them, and replace things that have died in pots and containers.

Zinnias are similar, but taller, so they are fun to plant in flower beds that may not take off as you had planned.

Neither is a perennial (they don't come back next year), but once they have stopped blooming and totally dried out in the fall, you can collect the seeds out of the pods where the flower was, keep them in a baggie (with a paper towel inside so they don't get moldy or musty), and replant them the next year. Saves money.

Irises are a great bulb to plant that comes back every year, and rabbits and deer don't like the way they taste (unlike Hasta's, tulips, and lillies...they see those and come running!)

All of these unforunately lack pretty smell.

For perennials with fragrance, try Peonnies (so easy), Flox, Daisy, Sweet Pea, Carnation and Columbines. Buy them already started at the store. If you do them from seeds, you have to start really early, and be ever SO gentle, and harden them up before you put them outside (that means to set them out in sun, wind and cooler nights).

Lilac bushes area really rewarding hedges too.

THAT's just the flowers! (for starters)

Easy Veggies.

Peas, as long as frost is gone, they are ready to go in the ground. If you have a fense, or anything they can vine on, find the sugar-snap/snow peapod varieties (less bending to pick), and you can eat the pods (avoid shelling, and more healthy for you)

Lettuce and spinache are also good to plant right after frost is gone, but be careful to keep them watered. If you forget a day with peas, no big deal, but some lettuces and spinache are realy touchy about heat and water. Read the seed packets carefully on these to see if the desired climate matches where you are.

Squash
Zuccinni and yellow summer squash can be started indoors or in the ground and grow fast and easy. BE SURE TO BUY THE BUSH VARIETIES or they will sprawl all over your garden. Save the sprawling space for other squashes, melons and cukes...though those are a little less hardy, need a little more attention, but are not too bad to grow. Do those last ones only if you have space. There are some bush varieties of cucumber now too, come to think of it!

If you get zuccinni going, PM me later to ask me the Zuccinni baby story. :D

Tomatoes:
Don't start them from seed, it takes too long, buy ones that are thick unwilted plants, no taller than a foot for cherry, pear and grape tomatoes and no taller than a foot and a half for others including Roma. All those I mentioned, plus BIG BOY, EARLY GIRL and FIRST LADY are pretty solid in giving you back tomatoes. Just enjoy them the first year, then do some reading on how to produce more tomatoes over time on how to tend to them if you really get into it. NOTE they love fertilizer and water.

Beans and corn can grow fine, but you need to be on top of them for thinning, weeding, watering and harvesting to avoid them getting tough, wimpy or eaten by critters. Potatoes are also easy, but find out if you need to mound them or make indentations for your climate.

Carrots radishes and parsnips are fun to put in the ground together, they have different growing rates, and the radishes can actually thin the other two for you in some ways. You can leave the carrots and parsnips in the ground PAST the first frost, and they get sweeter, but they take some work over the summer.

PERENNIALS in your veggie garden:

Rhubarb, chives and dill are fun to see come back dill can tought to get going, but once it is there, it is nice to have.

Asperagus is also one that comes back, but it takes 2 to 3 years to mature to the point that you can eat it! Just plan on planting a new round each year, so in three years, you have a steady supply going (about 16 plants can give you some joy).

LAST, FERTILIZER: (NOT FOR PEPPERS, they want you to be mean to them!) I compost all my leftover scraps (no meat or dairy...bacteria an pest issues) and use the runnoff from it, but I also use Miracle grow...especially on my flowers. BUT a really cheap fertilizer is in most people's kitchens. When you empty out your leftover coffee and coffee grounds, just put both together, add water, swirl it around, and dump it on some plant that needs love. GREAT fertilizer that doesn't burn out the plant.

O.K. I threw a lot out there, you may know some of it already. Anyway have fun, and PM me to let me know how it goes!

P.S. If your climate is hot, work weed and water in the early AM or late PM... the plants get to drink without the sun evaporating it before it reaches the roots. If you have a cooler climate that stays around 70 degrees most summer days, water in the day to avoid mildew, mold and root rot at night.

This is just amazing! I can't thank you enough for so much advise! Obviously you have a "knack" for this. I'm going to print this off and take it home with me. Wish me luck! Thank you, thank you, thank you! What an :angel: you are.

WATW
 
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This is just amazing! I can't thank you enough for so much advise! Obviously you have a "knack" for this. I'm going to print this off and take it home with me. Wish me luck! Thank you, thank you, thank you! What an :angel: you are.

WATW


No, no "knack":o just a lot of family gardeners going way back, and I'm still learning all the time. Thanks for letting me talk "gardening" with you! I'm having to be patient with frost to stop here with most of my own, so it makes the time go faster planning with others.

Have fun!
 
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No, no "knack":o just a lot of family gardeners going way back, and I'm still learning all the time. Thanks for letting me talk "gardening" with you! I'm having to be patient with frost to stop here with most of my own, so it makes the time go faster planning with others.

Have fun!

No thank YOU for talking "dirt/gardening" with ME. I really enjoyed!
 
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If your phone were to ring right now - who would you want to talk to?

When was the last time you laughed until it hurt? Why - what was so funny?

edie

I would want to talk to my oldest son. He is going through some things (that we could use some prayer about) and I haven't heard from him in quite some time. What a blessing that would be.

I work at an elementary school so I laugh quite hard all the time on a weekly basis. Kids really do say the darndest things and with such innocence and honesty. I don't laugh in front of them of course. I usually leave; go into my office and have a good belly laugh. That's why it usually hurts-cause I have to keep it inside so as not to embarass anyone.
 
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I would want to talk to my oldest son. He is going through some things (that we could use some prayer about) and I haven't heard from him in quite some time. What a blessing that would be.

I work at an elementary school so I laugh quite hard all the time on a weekly basis. Kids really do say the darndest things and with such innocence and honesty. I don't laugh in front of them of course. I usually leave; go into my office and have a good belly laugh. That's why it usually hurts-cause I have to keep it inside so as not to embarass anyone.

Praying for your son.:groupray:

And I hear you about the things kids say - when my grandkids are over I have to walk out of the room quite often. They are a hoot!!!^_^

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How's the gardening going so far?

truthfully? pathetic :eek:

I decided to hang my hat up on it except for the couple of basil plants i've managed to keep alive. It's looking like I will not be at home this summer (for about 2 months) so will have to get some fall stuff going when I return.

What would grow good in the fall in the desert?

How are you doing by the way?
 
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truthfully? pathetic :eek:

I decided to hang my hat up on it except for the couple of basil plants i've managed to keep alive. It's looking like I will not be at home this summer (for about 2 months) so will have to get some fall stuff going when I return.

What would grow good in the fall in the desert?

How are you doing by the way?

I'm Good!

Oh! You're in the desert. Then a growing things IS a lot harder for you (don't be tough on yourself). You air is so dry, it's hard to keep on top of the watering, though usually your soil is really really fertile.

Hmmm...fall....if you stay above freezing most of the winter, I have some thoughts.

I know some people in Pheonix. If your climate is anything like theirs, I know they stick to some very basic stuff.

First, Rosemary grows for them like crazy! It turns into huge bushes, but buy it already growing, not from seed. Put it wher it gets some shade and some sun throughout the day.

Doing flowers and tomatoes in pots is best. Some tomato varieties are out now that are compact together...and Roma's are tougher than some. Again, buy it alive! (plus, a Roma works well with your basil and love for Italian food ;) , books and decor!)

Peppers like heat, but not very fertile soil. Ask a gardening shop what you could pot peppers in.

For greens, if you like spinache there are some varieties that are heat tolerant, but again, you would have to keep it watered pretty steadily, still going into the fall, it might work!

But hey! You have Basil going! This is good! On basil, when it gets tall, just take a couple of inches right off the top (and use it), soon it will split, and a new branch will begin. I've even bought fresh Basil from the store, used what I needed, and put the remaining basil in a glass of water, then set it in the window, and it grows roots....once there are dozens of roots (keep adding water), you can plant it. That's my cheater way to start Basil.

So, where are you going over the summer months?
 
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I'm Good!

Oh! You're in the desert. Then a growing things IS a lot harder for you (don't be tough on yourself). You air is so dry, it's hard to keep on top of the watering, though usually your soil is really really fertile.

Hmmm...fall....if you stay above freezing most of the winter, I have some thoughts.

I know some people in Pheonix. If your climate is anything like theirs, I know they stick to some very basic stuff.

First, Rosemary grows for them like crazy! It turns into huge bushes, but buy it already growing, not from seed. Put it wher it gets some shade and some sun throughout the day.

Doing flowers and tomatoes in pots is best. Some tomato varieties are out now that are compact together...and Roma's are tougher than some. Again, buy it alive! (plus, a Roma works well with your basil and love for Italian food ;) , books and decor!)

Peppers like heat, but not very fertile soil. Ask a gardening shop what you could pot peppers in.

For greens, if you like spinache there are some varieties that are heat tolerant, but again, you would have to keep it watered pretty steadily, still going into the fall, it might work!

But hey! You have Basil going! This is good! On basil, when it gets tall, just take a couple of inches right off the top (and use it), soon it will split, and a new branch will begin. I've even bought fresh Basil from the store, used what I needed, and put the remaining basil in a glass of water, then set it in the window, and it grows roots....once there are dozens of roots (keep adding water), you can plant it. That's my cheater way to start Basil.

So, where are you going over the summer months?

You got that right! Growing things in the desert is very difficult; although I know it can be done. Everything you listed is all the things my friend at work told me to try and she said almost the same things you said about Rosemary, etc.

We don't usually have to worry much about freezing -not in the fall anyway - here in the desert but this past winter we did have a couple of freeze warnings. So I'll just have to take a gamble :0) and see what happens.

Our climate is VERY similar to Phoenix. We run about 10-20 degrees warmer then them in the middle of the summer though is the only difference that I can tell. And they do see more rain then we do (believe it or not). Every now and again we do get some good monsoon storms with tons of blessed rain.

Thank you so much for that tip about basil and using what I need and starting the rest in a glass of water! Didn't know that and I always end up throwing the remainder of fresh basil from the store out! So that works indeed!

I am going to be staying near the Ozarks with a friend of mine in Kansas. I've been saying for the last year or two, "I'm not spending another summer in this hot desert!!!" Looks like my wish is coming true!

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Judi
 
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I am going to be staying near the Ozarks with a friend of mine in Kansas. I've been saying for the last year or two, "I'm not spending another summer in this hot desert!!!" Looks like my wish is coming true!

:hug:
Judi


Praise God! You will love the time well spent in Kansas...that is the area I live in and it is wonderful. Be blessed!
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Praise God! You will love the time well spent in Kansas...that is the area I live in and it is wonderful. Be blessed!
:D

Thank you so much Pearls . . . I was very blessed by the people in the midwest (Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, and Arkansas) while there over spring break so I'm sure I'll be even more blessed by being able to stay there longer. I think midwesterners should teach some folks how to mind their manners along with some other common decency things :0) . . .there is NOTHING like midwestern hospitality from what I could tell! :hug:

I've never been to the Ozarks....another wannado thing on my list. Hugs! Have fun!

You HAVE to go my awesome sister in Christ and friend! It is absolutely gorgeous. :hug:
 
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Come up North some day, we'll show you what rain is!

Just kidding. It was SO rainy that day, and I was stuck inside when I wanted to be gardening, so I was using that to bring the FTB back to life for a bit.

How is your summer going so far BTW?
 
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Come up North some day, we'll show you what rain is!

Just kidding. It was SO rainy that day, and I was stuck inside when I wanted to be gardening, so I was using that to bring the FTB back to life for a bit.

How is your summer going so far BTW?

Now that it's getting so blasted hot . . . I would LOVE to come up north some day REAL soon! We use to live on the east coast-I was born in CT, and lived in PA for 9 yrs so I'm faintly familiar with the wet stuff :0) We really need it here in the desert though. I just kind of chuckle when I hear other areas talking about a "drought" though. I'm like, "HUH!!! you don't know what a drought is til you come out here!" We haven't seen rain in ions.

As for my summer, it is going really really well. I'm doing my best to keep myself AND my dogs out of the 100+ degree days! Poor dogs don't even want to go to the bathroom when it gets like that. They wait until the sun starts to set and there is shade (on the side of my building) and THEN they'll go. They're not stupid! I need to make them some shoes for sure!

Think I'll hold off on the gardening for a spell. At least til fall!
 
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I just pictured putting doggy shoes on my dog's feet. ROTFLOL! She'd eat them. (even if they were tin foil. Seriously. She's the chew master and eats everything. She even chewed the downspouts on our house.)

What kind of dogs do you have?
 
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