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No, it's quite clear. I don't have any illusion that you tracked on the science.
It's pretty obvious. (Sorry if you thought you were fooling anyone).
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No, it's quite clear. I don't have any illusion that you tracked on the science.
It's pretty obvious. (Sorry if you thought you were fooling anyone).
The science didn't track so well for the global warming religionist who got caught in the unexpected ice down in Antarctica
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Well, then you should be able to point out what was wrong with the science, then shouldn't you?
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Interesting. And do you call that scientific?
I don't see any numbers there. I don't see any discussion of salt and fresh water mixing in the Southern Ocean and I don't see any mention of stratospheric cooling due to ozone depletion.
Would you like some examples of what numbers look like and a few technical words so you can lard your post up to convince your fellow "skeptics" that you are all sciencey and stuff?
I'd be glad to talk science with you. Oh wait, that wouldn't be possible would it? You don't know any of the science here do you?
Oh, sorry!
Let me know when you get back from your first oceanographic cruise! (I got back from mine in April of 1991.)
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My favorite is in the Creationism and Evolution section where people tell sfs he doesn't understand genetics.
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Evidence? And the sea ice became packed due to winds, not temperature because it's always cold in Antarctica all the time.
Of course not. People have been pointing out that denialists who cannot address the science can only talk about former Vice President Gore. Hannity did just that last night (along with talking about the Time magazine cover - apparently the extent of his knowledge on the subject).
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Don't ask him to stop. Report him for this behavior whenever he does it.
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I thought it was the claim of some people in this thread that the temperature was the reason for the Academic being trapped in the ice, but here it notes, correctly, that it was the wind that cause the situation:
A shift in wind direction has freed a Russian-built research ship...
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If you are unable to tell the difference between weather and climate that laughing smiley should be directed at yourself.
It's been my suspicion for some time now that people (usually on the far right) do not reject evolution and global warming out of a methodical evaluation of the evidence but rather because it conflicts with what they've sacralized. If one has, as some people on the right tend to, sacralize (and fetishize) a literal interpretation of religious creation stories as well as free market capitalism, then it is not surprising to see why these two are so vigorously attacked. Given that there really hasn't surfaced any private market solution to combat global warming but instead calls for lifestyle changes, carbon taxes, stricter regulation and more government spending, far-right dogmatists chose to reject its entirety altogether (or some modified version of it, such as rejecting the anthropogenic aspect of it). Whether these policies are terrible, good or otherwise is no reason to reject descriptive science.
It's been my suspicion for some time now that people (usually on the far right) do not reject evolution and global warming out of a methodical evaluation of the evidence but rather because it conflicts with what they've sacralized. If one has, as some people on the right tend to, sacralize (and fetishize) a literal interpretation of religious creation stories as well as free market capitalism, then it is not surprising to see why these two are so vigorously attacked. Given that there really hasn't surfaced any private market solution to combat global warming but instead calls for lifestyle changes, carbon taxes, stricter regulation and more government spending, far-right dogmatists chose to reject its entirety altogether (or some modified version of it, such as rejecting the anthropogenic aspect of it). Whether these policies are terrible, good or otherwise is no reason to reject descriptive science.
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That's what freed the ship. The discussion is about what trapped the ship, unexpected heavy ice
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