Global warming and the end

[SG9]

You guys can compare the components and schematics of your printed circuit boards but how does this identify the power that energizes either printed circuit? Comparing components and schematics does not identify the electricity (spirit) that powers them, I think that you men are wasting your time, IMHO

IMO, The spirit in which is in you cannot be identified in this manner. That's another phenomenon.

Christ spoke to spirits, not the flesh in all cases, but only when he had to identify, and identify with the spirit within the subject. This is a gift, not just something that any man can do.

 

[xXChristPeripheralXx]

You guys can compare the components and schematics of your printed circuit boards but how does this identify the power that energizes either printed circuit? Comparing components and schematics does not identify the electricity (spirit) that powers them, I think that you men are wasting your time, IMHO

IMO, The spirit in which is in you cannot be identified in this manner. That's another phenomenon.

Christ spoke to spirits, not the flesh in all cases, but only when he had to identify, and identify with the spirit within the subject. This is a gift, not just something that any man can do.

Antichrist spirit is easy to tell..

Im just doing as commanded as a Christian..

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

 

[Biblewriter]

lol, NIV? There are over 75,000 words missing from the NIV, and even whole verses..

Click here>>>NIV missing 17 Verses<<<Click here

Friend, I have 15 Bibles, in which my Favorites are as follows..


*Greek New Testament* (standard for translation)
1. 1560 Geneva w/Apocrypha
2. 1568 Bishops Bible
3. 1611 KJV w/Apocrypha
4. KJV
5. Companion Bible (Commentary by Bullinger)

I am glad that you are aware of the fact that modern "scholars" have, for the most part, followed a Pier Piper on the ancient manuscripts. The ones they call "superior" have many passages deleted, and diverge in many places from the vast bulk of ancient manuscripts.

These manuscripts are held in high esteem because they are thought to be so much older that any copies of what is called "the majority text," and thus they call the majority "lower quality" manuscripts. Most of these few "best" manuscripts originated in Egypt, which scholars point out is a desert area, and say that is why the manuscripts lasted so long.

But more sober scholars answer in two ways. Some reasonably argue that the reason these manuscripts lasted so long was that ancient Christians did not trust them, and thus did not use them. Other scholars have studied these "best" manuscripts in detail, and concluded that instead of being better than the others, they are highly inferior, showing unmistakable signs of having been willfully revised from the original scriptures. The scholars seem to forget that Alexandria, the spiritual center of Egypt, their version of the Catholic's Vatican, as it were, was a hotbed of heresy. And the ancestral path leading to these "best" manuscripts unquestionably leads right through the center of that heretical faction.

A prime case of this is the Sinaiticus, in which the single leaf containing the end of Mark and the beginning of Luke is in a different handwriting. The last twelve verses of Mark are missing and the lettering of the last part of Mark that is included is widely spaced. I have personally counted the letters and published a calculation proving that if the letters had been spaced the same in this section the same as they were in the sections immediately before and after it, there would have been plenty of room for even the longest known ancient version of these twelve verses. This is compelling evidence that, at some time after the manuscript was completed, someone intentionally removed an original sheet which contained these twelve verses, and replaced it with a sheet with then deleted. Yet this is considered one of the very best of all ancient manuscripts!

 

[SG9]

Antichrist spirit is easy to tell..

Im just doing as commanded as a Christian..

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Good morning CP, what I mean is beyond this approach; I see the verse as a title of a schematic booklet and this title is on either of your booklet's, which are the schematics in this parallel idea, the difference is your mind's and what is stored up in the greater portions. I spoke about this in my thread about digital minds in a parallel. Each one of us are different people and the simple evidence is in our behavior, which are our fruit's. Now, in any case of debates is the same as comparing apples with oranges because the debate is actually over the stored knowledge in the storehouse, and not of the one and only God. If we were all on the same page and in the same book there would be no debates nor questions. Scripture says that no man will be instructing his brother after Christ comes in His new Revelation that updates the world for our present day with Him. An Ending must come first before the New Beginning and we have work to do.

I can talk until I'm blue and never share all of my mind with another nor can they with me. IMO, I believe that we should spend more time in the Word and every lasting moment that we can afford instead of trying to bring Muslims to Christ because no man will ever do that, it's prophesied that all evil faith's will perish and it doesn't mean that all die by flesh but in mind as God will give them a new mind and a new heart of flesh that is soft and not vile against our brethren.

If you really want to bring any Muslim to Christ then please register on any Muslim discussion forum, and that's if you can get into one, and try to preach to them? Tell them that they are satanic and AC, and see how far you get, my brother!

IMO, spend more time in the spirit, and it's in the mind. These are my words of wisdom and you may discard them, it doesn't matter to my ego. It's about working out our own salvation in these last days, and to be honest with you, I really don't enjoy being here in any discussion and sometimes feel to walk away but as you feel in your heart is what you feel is right, and me too.

The Muslims deserve the same right as a nation. God is our mediator and our Judge and I try to awaken people to the fact that Hosea 4:1-3 is a parallel description of the entire world, today. It was then a country, today it's a world as countless as the sands on the seashores and the stars in heaven.

Okay, I'm done preaching for today, sorry, and God bless you too my friend.

 

[xXChristPeripheralXx]

Good morning CP, what I mean is beyond this approach; I see the verse as a title of a schematic booklet and this title is on either of your booklet's, which are the schematics in this parallel idea, the difference is your mind's and what is stored up in the greater portions. I spoke about this in my thread about digital minds in a parallel. Each one of us are different people and the simple evidence is in our behavior, which are our fruit's. Now, in any case of debates is the same as comparing apples with oranges because the debate is actually over the stored knowledge in the storehouse, and not of the one and only God. If we were all on the same page and in the same book there would be no debates nor questions. Scripture says that no man will be instructing his brother after Christ comes in His new Revelation that updates the world for our present day with Him. An Ending must come first before the New Beginning and we have work to do.

I can talk until I'm blue and never share all of my mind with another nor can they with me. IMO, I believe that we should spend more time in the Word and every lasting moment that we can afford instead of trying to bring Muslims to Christ because no man will ever do that, it's prophesied that all evil faith's will perish and it doesn't mean that all die by flesh but in mind as God will give them a new mind and a new heart of flesh that is soft and not vile against our brethren.

If you really want to bring any Muslim to Christ then please register on any Muslim discussion forum, and that's if you can get into one, and try to preach to them? Tell them that they are satanic and AC, and see how far you get, my brother!

IMO, spend more time in the spirit, and it's in the mind. These are my words of wisdom and you may discard them, it doesn't matter to my ego. It's about working out our own salvation in these last days, and to be honest with you, I really don't enjoy being here in any discussion and sometimes feel to walk away but as you feel in your heart is what you feel is right, and me too.

The Muslims deserve the same right as a nation. God is our mediator and our Judge and I try to awaken people to the fact that Hosea 4:1-3 is a parallel description of the entire world, today. It was then a country, today it's a world as countless as the sands on the seashores and the stars in heaven.

Okay, I'm done preaching for today, sorry, and God bless you too my friend.

No man, thank you for your advice.. Thats good stuff on gp..

Muslims are like preterists, they have a way around everything in our Bible, they debate the same way. But i would take the approach of Ravi Zacharias, and show the difference between Christs love, and Allah's dictatorial style of regime rule..

Jesus is in the quran, all of the end time prophecies are in the quran, which they stole from us ironically..

7 year trib
Antichrist/12th Imam
Jews get attacked/They are going to kill the Jews(God wont let that happen)

 

[southcountry]

You guys can compare the components and schematics of your printed circuit boards but how does this identify the power that energizes either printed circuit? Comparing components and schematics does not identify the electricity (spirit) that powers them, I think that you men are wasting your time, IMHO

IMO, The spirit in which is in you cannot be identified in this manner. That's another phenomenon.

Christ spoke to spirits, not the flesh in all cases, but only when he had to identify, and identify with the spirit within the subject. This is a gift, not just something that any man can do.

I understand what your getting at. However.......I have had certain things happen to me that caused me to search out answers....and there are answers if one wants to look for them.

When is the last time you have heard any church get into what Ezekiel saw, or what those beasts are doing around the throne? Is that for our knowledge, or is that just "filler" to make a much more impressive bible?

Its possible to understand all of it, and I have been prompted to do so. Not by creating my own version, but by relating to my experiences.

No more just tossing out a verse because it seems strange and I cant understand it....If I cant understand it, it is my own fault for being so closed minded. Sooner or later the meaning will manifest.

 

[SG9]

I understand what your getting at. However.......I have had certain things happen to me that caused me to search out answers....and there are answers if one wants to look for them.

When is the last time you have heard any church get into what Ezekiel saw, or what those beasts are doing around the throne? Is that for our knowledge, or is that just "filler" to make a much more impressive bible?

Its possible to understand all of it, and I have been prompted to do so. Not by creating my own version, but by relating to my experiences.

No more just tossing out a verse because it seems strange and I cant understand it....If I cant understand it, it is my own fault for being so closed minded. Sooner or later the meaning will manifest.

This is very good, and I don't discredit anything that either of you hold sincere in your heart, and I should have noted this to you as well as CP, I'm sorry. But my point is that being that we don't have all of the answers, and it ends up in debates over the spirit, and it always gets personal, and that will not settle anything as it actually takes a turn in the topic; as I was saying, they are two different things.

I see that you have the right spirit and understanding of your position and the willingness to learn, knowing that it's infinite, I'm sure. The thread will lose focus and I'm only trying to bring mediation before it attracts attention from the Judges of CF, Lol Love comes first and comes from above. Peace be with you both, and God bless you

 

[SG9]

I understand what your getting at. However.......I have had certain things happen to me that caused me to search out answers....and there are answers if one wants to look for them.

When is the last time you have heard any church get into what Ezekiel saw, or what those beasts are doing around the throne? Is that for our knowledge, or is that just "filler" to make a much more impressive bible?

Its possible to understand all of it, and I have been prompted to do so. Not by creating my own version, but by relating to my experiences.

No more just tossing out a verse because it seems strange and I cant understand it....If I cant understand it, it is my own fault for being so closed minded. Sooner or later the meaning will manifest.

Dear SC, I forgot about your statement about Ezekiel. You seem like you have the right open mind to try different perspectives, and I offer a clue for now, one that I found very interesting in a parallel. I look for natural-cosmo to spiritual symbolic parallel's as well because certain things were around then and for always so I look to the heavens for signs, symbols and parallel things that can also be counterfeit but this one thing that I found is a parallel in the Orion constellation where we see a trapezium of bright stars, and this might be the natural parallel to where the Heavenly Throne is center of the trapezium. The 4 stars are the 4 angels.

Use your imagination and search your heart and mind deep for God, He will show you things but be cautious as Satan will do all that he can to lead to off course, test everything that comes to you, it must all be in sync. Testing is a form of testing a chain for broken or weak links. You don't want to rely on a chain that lays in a pile of others and discover that you had two different ends, neither.

 

[eclipsenow]

The only thing Ive done is prove your posts wrong to everyone here, and I will continue to do so.

Interplanner is right on the money here mate. You don't 'rebuke' other Christians by pretty much saying "I've got the Holy Spirit, therefore I am right and you are wrong."

You dont ever quote from scripture, you talk about historical stuff that has nothing to do with Gods inspired word.

Here's the thing dude: YOU DON'T QUOTE SCRIPTURE EITHER! Ripping a verse out of context in no way helps prove your assertions. You butcher verses, you don't quote them.

And you refer people outside the Bible for discernment, which goes against God.

(Sighs). Dude, you just tried to discuss the science of biblical source document verification by stating that the KJV had all these verses that the NIV didn't. Interplanner explained why. And then you respond like this? Dude: YOU raised source documentation as an issue.

Ive already summed up the satanic preterist doctrine for you, Ill use a visual aid this time.

Do you know the difference between full Preterism and Partial Preterism? There's a WORLD of difference: one is a heresy that denies a basic gospel choice, and the other is a respected eschatological paradigm that the reformers largely adopted.

When you are ready to talk about something that is in the Bible, lemme know..

When you are ready to show an ounce of basic comprehension of the texts in the bible, let us know. But right now this thread is actually not about you and all your unjustifiable opinions, but about climate change. When you can learn to discuss the Scriptures without appealing to that old chestnut, "The Holy Spirit tells me it is so, so THERE!" (because I'll just reply with the ever reliable "The Holy Spirit tells me it ISN'T SO, so DOUBLE THERE!"), then we might have a grown up conversation about the bible. But until then, I don't really want to discuss the bible with you, let alone your rejection of climate science based on your gut feelings.

So, to begin again:


One hundred and ninety-eight scientific organisations of national or international standing affirm the mainstream position that recently observed warming is primarily due to human activities (especially emissions of carbon dioxide). This list includes basically all the relevant peak bodies in the world and the national academies of virtually every major country in the world. Here is the list:
Office of Planning and Research - List of Organizations

The number of such organisations that have examined the evidence and reached the opposite conclusion? Zero.

 

[eclipsenow]

I can talk until I'm blue and never share all of my mind with another nor can they with me. IMO, I believe that we should spend more time in the Word and every lasting moment that we can afford instead of trying to bring Muslims to Christ because no man will ever do that, it's prophesied that all evil faith's will perish and it doesn't mean that all die by flesh but in mind as God will give them a new mind and a new heart of flesh that is soft and not vile against our brethren.

Sorry mate, but the Great Commission applies to Muslims as well. God loves them as well! My mother and father in law spent many years on the mission field in Thailand witnessing to Muslims, and it wasn't until some close friends of theirs were martyred that the local Muslims realised they were serious, and started to become Christians. In other words, it is hard work, but the gospel can save even Muslims, and it is well worth doing!

If you really want to bring any Muslim to Christ then please register on any Muslim discussion forum, and that's if you can get into one, and try to preach to them? Tell them that they are satanic and AC, and see how far you get, my brother!

Well, yes, there is the matter of HOW one communicates the gospel! Islam might indeed be Satanic in origins and outcomes, but then again, so is listening to One Direction, but I don't stand up in a One Direction concert and tell all those screaming teenage girls that they're Satanic. No, it's probably more prudent to gently explain the love of Christ and freedom from sin and our rebirth into a new, living relationship, not an older covenant of law. There are many fine resources for compassionately, carefully, tenderly sharing the gospel with Muslims. (CP doesn't know how to discuss climate change with a brother-in-Christ without standing up on his soap box and screaming "I HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT! TA-DA!!!!!!", so I doubt he's up to the point yet of being able to gently share the gospel with Muslims without rubbing it in their noses first).

IMO, spend more time in the spirit, and it's in the mind.

Oh oh. Danger Will Robinson, Danger!

 

[eclipsenow]

Antichrist spirit is easy to tell..

Im just doing as commanded as a Christian..

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Then there's that little matter of the Scriptures being how we do this, not according to your gut feelings that you think are the Holy Spirit talking to you!

 

[xXChristPeripheralXx]

Then there's that little matter of the Scriptures being how we do this, not according to your gut feelings that you think are the Holy Spirit talking to you!

Im sorry, you never addressed anything you accused me of when I showed you your hypocrisy.

Further.. You recommend the NIV bible which is quite possibly borderlining an abomination of Gods word..

My literary prowess afford me the ability to read the older Bibles you seem to have issues reading..

I prefer accuracy to heresy.



You pop in here and make accusations with no weight, and you refuse to answer to your own claims..

Notice how you quoted my reply to someone else instead of the reply I gave to you.. I shut you down to the point you need to reply to SOMEONE elses post to "attempt" to prove your point.

Your debating skills leave something to be desired..

 

[eclipsenow]

Im sorry, you never addressed anything you accused me of when I showed you your hypocrisy.

Further.. You recommend the NIV bible which is quite possibly borderlining an abomination of Gods word..

My literary prowess afford me the ability to read the older Bibles you seem to have issues reading..

I prefer accuracy to heresy.

Assertion is not proof. You assert it is heresy, but do not prove it. Heresy's a pretty strong word for a version of the bible hundreds of millions of people prefer. The KJV cult you seem to belong to is over-rated. (See what I did there, calling your preference for the KJV a 'cult.' Please don't take that literally, but figuratively, as an example of how easy it is to play name-calling games without demonstrating anything).

You pop in here and make accusations with no weight, and you refuse to answer to your own claims..

I started this thread to discuss a Christian view of Global Warming and the last days, which are 2000 years and counting. (See Acts 2). You popped in to this thread and asserted that Global Warming was an anti-Christ plot, and then linked to some youtube video as evidence. I declined to watch your youtube when you freely admitted you'd only been a Christian a month when you made it. We've been discussing what you meant by "I am given in Spirit to discern the Word," which sounds like a spooky subjectivist justification for not actually demonstrating your claims.

While a Protestant view of Sola Scriptura is a passion of mine, it's not what this thread is about. Please try to stay on the subject of this thread, according to forum rules.

 

[xXChristPeripheralXx]

Assertion is not proof. You assert it is heresy, but do not prove it. Heresy's a pretty strong word for a version of the bible hundreds of millions of people prefer. The KJV cult you seem to belong to is over-rated. (See what I did there, calling your preference for the KJV a 'cult.' Please don't take that literally, but figuratively, as an example of how easy it is to play name-calling games without demonstrating anything).





I started this thread to discuss a Christian view of Global Warming and the last days, which are 2000 years and counting. (See Acts 2). You popped in to this thread and asserted that Global Warming was an anti-Christ plot, and then linked to some youtube video as evidence. I declined to watch your youtube when you freely admitted you'd only been a Christian a month when you made it. We've been discussing what you meant by "I am given in Spirit to discern the Word," which sounds like a spooky subjectivist justification for not actually demonstrating your claims.

While a Protestant view of Sola Scriptura is a passion of mine, it's not what this thread is about. Please try to stay on the subject of this thread, according to forum rules.

Nice way to dodge any responsibility to your claim.


The reason I said the "global warming" bit was of satin is because its a media agenda with no real objectivity to back it up..

Now, I do believe that God will scorch the men of the earth with fire..

This is an unfulfilled prophecy.
Rev 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.


Fox news says Global warming is real.
Fox news says a man lived to be 123 (Not possible, our lifespan is cut down to 120)
Fox news says a 2 million year old skull was found
Fox news says life on earth most likely spawned from life on mars


Who do you believe? Jesus Christ and the prophecies we are given or Fox news?


Also, I dont use the NIV because its a flawed book, you are missing verses from you "NIV" wonder book..

Here is a comprehensive list of verses you cant find in your Bible, try it. they arent in there...

1 Matthew 17:21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting
2 Matthew 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost
3 Matthew 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Parisees, hypocrites! For ye devour widows houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation
4 Mark 7:16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
5 Mark 9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched
6 Mark 9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
7 Mark 11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
8 Mark 15:28 And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, and he was numbered with the transgressors.
9 Luke 17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left
10 Luke 23:17 (For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)
Note: this is when Her’od wanted to release Jesus because nothing worthy of death is done unto him.
11 John 5:4 For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.
12 Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Je’sus Christ is the Son of God.
13 Acts 15:34 Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still.
14 Acts 24:7 But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands.
15 Acts 28:29 And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves.
16 Romans 16:24 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
17 1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. NIV only says For there are three that Testify, ( this could be any three, which three ? )

 

[eclipsenow]

Nice way to dodge any responsibility to your claim.


The reason I said the "global warming" bit was of satin is because its a media agenda with no real objectivity to back it up..

I know many Phd theologians who accept global warming, and many Phd scientists who are Christians. There is no need to choose between believing the bible and believing what we can test again and again and again in a good physics lab. No need at all. But you just go ahead asserting it, without actually arguing or demonstrate it. And every time you say "Yes, it is Satanic!" I'll just say "No it isn't!" to remind you what assertion sounds like.

BTW - you are not throwing this thread off into a KJV V NIV rant. It's not the point of this thread, and not according to forum rules to attempt to do so. You are quite free to go start a KJV V NIV threat if you wish. I might even join in now and then. But, as a Christian who should respect the proper rules of conduct on a forum, you should adhere to forum policy. In fact, let's do it! Here is the thread.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7792608/#post64662734

 

[SG9]

I'm going back to watch the movie on right now, "The War of the Worlds" on the Movies network, it has video for eye candy.

 

[xXChristPeripheralXx]

I know many Phd theologians who accept global warming, and many Phd scientists who are Christians. There is no need to choose between believing the bible and believing what we can test again and again and again in a good physics lab. No need at all. But you just go ahead asserting it, without actually arguing or demonstrate it. And every time you say "Yes, it is Satanic!" I'll just say "No it isn't!" to remind you what assertion sounds like.

BTW - you are not throwing this thread off into a KJV V NIV rant. It's not the point of this thread, and not according to forum rules to attempt to do so. You are quite free to go start a KJV V NIV threat if you wish. I might even join in now and then. But, as a Christian who should respect the proper rules of conduct on a forum, you should adhere to forum policy. In fact, let's do it! Here is the thread.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7792608/#post64662734

Its funny, you started the discussion about the NIV bible, not me... Just more of you hypocrisy..

First of all, try the NIV. The KJV is a nightmare, especially for new Christians.

I use a 1560 Geneva Bible for scripture predominately, the KJV is also guilty of translation issues.


Moving along..

Im not sure that I believe what flawed humans bent on proving an agenda other than Christs message have to say..

If you need to beat into my brain via media that the world is warming, when in fact weve had some of our lowest recorded temps in the last 3 years, then it is in fact an agenda.

God controls this world, God controls the temperature, and God ultimately has the final say on that.. Not your "global weather" advocates..

Lets see what the Bible says about weather..

Job 37:9 Out of the south cometh the whirlwind: and cold out of the north.
Job 37:10 By the breath of God frost is given: and the breadth of the waters is straitened.

 

[eclipsenow]

I'm going back to watch the movie on right now, "The War of the Worlds" on the Movies network, it has video for eye candy.

Ha ha! I loved that movie. It was a few years ago now, but my (then) 13 year old boy was quite freaked out about the way the people in that movie went all feral on each other. That was when we had a chat around the theme of "due to human nature, civilisation is only 3 meals away from collapse".

Is your callsign after a certain sci-fi series?

 

[xXChristPeripheralXx]

Ha ha! I loved that movie. It was a few years ago now, but my (then) 13 year old boy was quite freaked out about the way the people in that movie went all feral on each other. That was when we had a chat around the theme of "due to human nature, civilisation is only 3 meals away from collapse".

Is your callsign after a certain sci-fi series?

So you can bring up the NIV first, and talk about movies, and Im derailing your thread?

I think you are doing that yourself.

Remeber who said this first???

First of all, try the NIV. The KJV is a nightmare, especially for new Christians.

BTW - you are not throwing this thread off into a KJV V NIV rant.

Dont worry, you are doing that yourself..


wanting...

 

[eclipsenow]

Im not sure that I believe what flawed humans bent on proving an agenda other than Christs message have to say..

Do you believe in washing your hands because of germs, in using microwave ovens, in using computers, in the moon landing? These are all products of science. Saying you don't believing in warming, but in the bible instead, is like saying you don't believe in brushing your teeth or in Pluto or in Mars, because you believe the bible instead. It's setting up a false dichotomy. It's a non-issue. There is no conflict.