Glenn Beck

[NorrinRadd]

Beck is a loon. A stark raving loon.

I say this not based on his views, but based on his behaviour.

Simple math.

Could you provide a few examples of his stark, raving, loony behavior?

Personally, I almost wish I *did* have evidence that he's crazy, because a lot of the material he presents paints a very disturbing picture of the county now and in the future.

Corollary question: Do you consider Beck's guest-hosts (speaking of his FNC show) to be similarly insane?

 

[WalksWithChrist]

Could you provide a few examples of his stark, raving, loony behavior?

Personally, I almost wish I *did* have evidence that he's crazy, because a lot of the material he presents paints a very disturbing picture of the county now and in the future.

Corollary question: Do you consider Beck's guest-hosts (speaking of his FNC show) to be similarly insane?

Thanks for asking! I was meaning to post this at some point. Can't get YouTube from work!

YouTube - Beck "Lose" His "Mind;" Screams At Caller: "Get Off My Phone You Little Pinhead!"
Yeah, there's Beck "telling it like it is" to that lady.
Mmm hmm.

Then there's the crying. And so much more. It's easy to find...Google is your friend. lol

 

[NorrinRadd]

So where's the crazy part?

 

[WalksWithChrist]

So where's the crazy part?

If you have to ask then you obviously didn't watch it yet.

Go ahead.

 

[heymikey80]

Thanks for asking! I was meaning to post this at some point. Can't get YouTube from work!

YouTube - Beck "Lose" His "Mind;" Screams At Caller: "Get Off My Phone You Little Pinhead!"
Yeah, there's Beck "telling it like it is" to that lady.
Mmm hmm.

Then there's the crying. And so much more. It's easy to find...Google is your friend. lol

Listened. Where's the craziness?

Ah, the idiocy of believing you can control health care costs and give everyone quality health care by expanding health care into a slavery system? Oh. wait. That's the caller.

Lessee, someone cusses him out on his own program, claiming he's crazy, claiming he doesn't care about the trillions given to the banks. Hm. Who's crazy here?

You cited this: what do you think Beck said about the trillion-dollar bailout? Hm? What'd he say about that? Specifically.

 

[Jesdisciple]

He's definitely a mad man, but not in that way. I would appreciate more civility, though, since he ends up representing me.

 

[WalksWithChrist]

Listened. Where's the craziness?

Ah, the idiocy of believing you can control health care costs and give everyone quality health care by expanding health care into a slavery system? Oh. wait. That's the caller.

Lessee, someone cusses him out on his own program, claiming he's crazy, claiming he doesn't care about the trillions given to the banks. Hm. Who's crazy here?

You cited this: what do you think Beck said about the trillion-dollar bailout? Hm? What'd he say about that? Specifically.

My posting had absolutely nothing to do with the issue. If it had I would have stated as much. Is it too much to ask that people just stick to what I actually say in my posts?

I guess screaming at someone at the top of their lungs is acceptible to you?

To me it is not under any circumstance. It indicates a very unbalanced mind.

He's definitely a mad man, but not in that way. I would appreciate more civility, though, since he ends up representing me.

A lot more civility, not just from Beck, is in order.

I hope we can all come to agree on that sooner than later.

 

[OnMyWaytoFreedom]

Just to pine in a thought- media is all about ratings. Even though you see Glenn Beck being outragious sometimes, it's all about persona to entice viewers/ratings, even if it sparks negative reaction. For example, do you really think that Stephen Colbert is the way he is onscreen in real life?

I believe that Glenn Beck is not portraying a lie or is crazy in what he believes, but that he is portraying them much more strongly on television because this is what Fox wants. I didn't even find the video referenced in the above posts crazy, or anything of the like. It was typical media play for ratings. That's what Fox is all about, and they pay his salary (for the record, I like Glenn Beck).

*on a side note, I didn't read every page of this thread, and only the 1st and last 5, so ignore me if this has already been mentioned.

 

[WalksWithChrist]

Just to pine in a thought- media is all about ratings. Even though you see Glenn Beck being outragious sometimes, it's all about persona to entice viewers/ratings, even if it sparks negative reaction. For example, do you really think that Stephen Colbert is the way he is onscreen in real life?

I believe that Glenn Beck is not portraying a lie or is crazy in what he believes, but that he is portraying them much more strongly on television because this is what Fox wants. I didn't even find the video referenced in the above posts crazy, or anything of the like. It was typical media play for ratings. That's what Fox is all about, and they pay his salary (for the record, I like Glenn Beck).

*on a side note, I didn't read every page of this thread, and only the 1st and last 5, so ignore me if this has already been mentioned.

You bring up good points. I am not so much concerned about the points Beck makes (I used to be a lukewarm viewer of his when he was on CNN, thought he was ok back then as a matter of fact) but his actual behaviour. I think some of the things he says are ranging from odd to kooky...but that's not where the bulk of my criticism lies.

When a man screams at the top of his lungs at a caller and has emotional breakdowns (crying/blubbering, etc.) on the air...you just have to stop and ask yourself does this person need to be in the broadcast media sector.

But you're right. It's all about ratings. As long as message boards are humming with people like us discussing him then he'll probably stay on top.

 

[heymikey80]

Could you provide a few examples of his stark, raving, loony behavior?

Personally, I almost wish I *did* have evidence that he's crazy, because a lot of the material he presents paints a very disturbing picture of the county now and in the future.

Corollary question: Do you consider Beck's guest-hosts (speaking of his FNC show) to be similarly insane?

Thanks for asking! I was meaning to post this at some point. Can't get YouTube from work!

YouTube - Beck "Lose" His "Mind;" Screams At Caller: "Get Off My Phone You Little Pinhead!"
Yeah, there's Beck "telling it like it is" to that lady.
Mmm hmm.

Then there's the crying. And so much more. It's easy to find...Google is your friend. lol

The prior posting.

My posting had absolutely nothing to do with the issue. If it had I would have stated as much. Is it too much to ask that people just stick to what I actually say in my posts?

I started with what you actually said, but it was so farfetched an example, I'm back to asking why you think it's loony to object loudly to someone lying about you and then cussing you out on a live radio show.

I guess screaming at someone at the top of their lungs is acceptible to you?

Under those circumstances, sure. I guess responding strongly to someone for intentionally calling in to lie about you is acceptable to you?

To me it is not under any circumstance. It indicates a very unbalanced mind.

Then you've never been in the situation. But I can certainly recall people lying explicitly about me, and my response was nothing short of that.

There's no civility when those opposing you are uncivil. What's loony is thinking you can maintain civility when people are taking such immoral actions around you. It's the way wars are lost, political fights are lost, court cases are lost, and just about everything else that happens in this world gets spun out of control and heads for disaster. To believe anyone is "above" being victimized by muck-raking is naive. On this point Beck passes. He responds with outrage against outrageous attacks.

Got any other loud protestations against the muck-raking lies of opponents? You can pan them out.

 

[Jesdisciple]

Mikey: I can understand getting angry, but the outburst just seems to lower him to her level. To compare this to an online discussion, it's like HE STARTED USING CAPS AND MULTIPLE EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!! I haven't been in any heated verbal discussions, but online I can show my anger in my words while avoiding exclamation points or any other screaming, or personal attacks like "pinhead." That would be a good skill for a professional pundit to learn in verbal conversation.

EDIT: And I didn't notice her lying... She had a different opinion and regrettably expressed it rudely.

 

[heymikey80]

Mikey: I can understand getting angry, but the outburst just seems to lower him to her level. To compare this to an online discussion, it's like HE STARTED USING CAPS AND MULTIPLE EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!! I haven't been in any heated verbal discussions, but online I can show my anger in my words while avoiding exclamation points or any other screaming, or personal attacks like "pinhead." That would be a good skill for a professional pundit to learn in verbal conversation.

EDIT: And I didn't notice her lying... She had a different opinion and regrettably expressed it rudely.

You didn't notice what she said right before she was cut off?

Did you notice what she said in between, the last thing she said before she was cut off first, before re-opened her phone line to ask about France's health care program?

Or you didn't notice it's something Beck constantly objects to even today, almost weekly, on his television program?

Like they pointed out, she never listened to Beck; she listened to Michael Moore; and she swore on the air, started out attacking him, and attacked him at least four times that I could count.

Online discussions are textual. Talk programs are talk. They're different forms of communication.

 

[Jesdisciple]

You didn't notice what she said right before she was cut off?

About not caring about the trillions of dollars? Yeah, I think she believes that. A black man I respect thinks conservatives are indifferent to blacks because we won't improve their plight through legislation. You have to spend a lot of time with a liberal before you can really say they're lying, and screaming doesn't help anything.

Did you notice what she said in between, the last thing she said before she was cut off first, before re-opened her phone line to ask about France's health care program?

About accepting non-citizens? How's that a lie?

Or you didn't notice it's something Beck constantly objects to even today, almost weekly, on his television program?

Yeah, isn't that why she called?

Like they pointed out, she never listened to Beck; she listened to Michael Moore; and she swore on the air, started out attacking him, and attacked him at least four times that I could count.

Yeah, she was rude. Being stern or even insulting ("Brood of vipers!") is appropriate, but I disagree with screaming. It's hard to rebuke someone when you're not being respectable yourself.

Online discussions are textual. Talk programs are talk. They're different forms of communication.

How does the difference matter for this discussion? The one way I can think of doesn't prove your point IMO.

 

[WalksWithChrist]

The prior posting.

I started with what you actually said, but it was so farfetched an example, I'm back to asking why you think it's loony to object loudly to someone lying about you and then cussing you out on a live radio show.

Under those circumstances, sure. I guess responding strongly to someone for intentionally calling in to lie about you is acceptable to you?

Then you've never been in the situation. But I can certainly recall people lying explicitly about me, and my response was nothing short of that.

There's no civility when those opposing you are uncivil. What's loony is thinking you can maintain civility when people are taking such immoral actions around you. It's the way wars are lost, political fights are lost, court cases are lost, and just about everything else that happens in this world gets spun out of control and heads for disaster. To believe anyone is "above" being victimized by muck-raking is naive. On this point Beck passes. He responds with outrage against outrageous attacks.

Got any other loud protestations against the muck-raking lies of opponents? You can pan them out.

I guess I was raised with better manners.

And yeah, I've been in all sorts of situations like that.

One word for you: Composure.

Mikey: I can understand getting angry, but the outburst just seems to lower him to her level. To compare this to an online discussion, it's like HE STARTED USING CAPS AND MULTIPLE EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!! I haven't been in any heated verbal discussions, but online I can show my anger in my words while avoiding exclamation points or any other screaming, or personal attacks like "pinhead." That would be a good skill for a professional pundit to learn in verbal conversation.

EDIT: And I didn't notice her lying... She had a different opinion and regrettably expressed it rudely.

Precisely.

Knowing the basics of anger management will help shed some light on my point.

The last person that screamed and cussed at me? I calmly waited until they calmed down and went to them and said in an even tone "I don't find that sort of behavior acceptible" or something just like that.

And what happened later that day? He personally called me on my cell to appologize.

Manners FTW.


It is not too much to expect such from those in the public eye. It really isn't.

So we have one of two scenarios that may be in play here:
1) Beck is doing it sheerly for the ratings. In which case, I find that repugnant regardless of it being some sort of "norm" these days.
2) Beck really does need some sort of training and needs to be off the air until he gets it.

I don't want my kids modeling that behaviour and neither do I want society at large thinking it's "ok" either.

I hear people saying of people like Beck "well if you don't like it...turn it off!"
I have.

 

[GrannyHope]

Ive been a conservative republican all my years of existance and I never seen anyone as intolerable and angry as the man known as Glenn Beck. he makes a mockery of my political beliefs and I do not appreciate it! In fact the man is a fraud he is a liberal in sheeps clothing. THATs what he is !
I think we should purge the Repubs of these redneck Glennians, I think we will be better of as a party in general if we got rid of the,m. Heck id even take Rush Limbag over him!

 

[Nilloc]

In fact the man is a fraud he is a liberal in sheeps clothing. THATs what he is !

That's a rather odd statement to make in my opinion. If you don't like Beck, fine, but accusing him of being a liberal? What about him makes him a liberal?

If Glenn Beck really is a secret-liberal (which I highly doubt), he's done a perfect job of fooling almost everyone out there that he's a Conservative.

 

[GrannyHope]

That's a rather odd statement to make in my opinion. If you don't like Beck, fine, but accusing him of being a liberal? What about him makes him a liberal?

If Glenn Beck really is a secret-liberal (which I highly doubt), he's done a perfect job of fooling almost everyone out there that he's a Conservative.

He could be its a big possibility. I mean he's done a grand job of making us look like idiots, and theres the interview he did on the View where he laughed at his fans and said he only did it for the entertainment value.

 

[Jesdisciple]

I mean he's done a grand job of making us look like idiots,

Well, he did have help...

theres the interview he did on the View where he laughed at his fans and said he only did it for the entertainment value.

Wha? Anyone know whether this is on YouTube?

 

[Nilloc]

He could be its a big possibility.

Yeah and Obama could really be a secret Conservative Republican, for small government, and pro-life.

I mean he's done a grand job of making us look like idiots,

Whether he's done that or not has nothing to do with the conspiracy theory of him being a liberal.

and theres the interview he did on the View where he laughed at his fans and said he only did it for the entertainment value.

I haven't watched Glenn's interview on the View (I'm a guy after all), so I can't comment on this as extensively as I would like, but, using the knowledge I already have of Beck, I would say this: Glenn Beck often makes jokes about his fans; it's not intended to be insulting or anything. You ever notice how he refers to them as Sick Twisted Freaks? Yeah, he's been doing that ever since I started watching him about three years ago (and I'm sure he did it before then), and no Beck fan I know of was ever offended by that. If you're offended by Beck's "insulting" of his fans, then you can't take a joke. I "insult" my friends at school in similar ways (they do the same to me), and none of us get offended, since we're just joking.

And as for your assertion that he said that he did it only for entertainment value, I would certainly have to watch the interview in order to hear how he said it, or if he said it at all. And, if he did, I'm 99% certain he would have been joking; I've heard him make jokes about himself before how he was just doing it for entertainment.

And do you honestly believe Beck would be that stupid to admit he was doing it just for entertainment?

Sorry, but just because you dislike somebody doesn't make them a liberal.

 

[heymikey80]

It continues to impress me that no one here really believes they would do such a thing, meanwhile ignoring the fact that generally people do this numerous times. You've never sworn? You've never raised your voice? Then you've never really been committed with any passion to anything -- by definition.

I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. -- Barry Goldwater​

I at least have a reasonable explanation why Obama shouts at people he's supposed to be answering, why Clinton castigates people over his appearance, why Ms. Clinton bristles at a question about her husband's opinion, why people are more than mush in politics. They're passionately held, and there's passion in supporting either the cause or the entity affected by the cause.

But to think it's good not to be passionate about something -- I think the falsehood lies there. If you can be calmly dismissal about the fall of liberty or justice, then you can, indeed, be calmly dismissal about other wrongs.

About not caring about the trillions of dollars? Yeah, I think she believes that. A black man I respect thinks conservatives are indifferent to blacks because we won't improve their plight through legislation. You have to spend a lot of time with a liberal before you can really say they're lying, and screaming doesn't help anything.

No, I can conclude that they're lying, because they say, "We see", and yet they're still blind. That's tantamount to lying.

If they can't see what people are saying, while asserting they know what people are saying: they're lying.

About accepting non-citizens? How's that a lie?

No. She said something offensive on live radio.

Yeah, isn't that why she called?

Clearly not if she's going to lie about it.

Yeah, she was rude. Being stern or even insulting ("Brood of vipers!") is appropriate, but I disagree with screaming. It's hard to rebuke someone when you're not being respectable yourself.

The punishment's deserved. She deserves it. Lying and spreading lies, cursing about being discovered on live talk radio, not even listening to the host, not responding, jumping from subject to subject like a rat on a hotplate -- yeah. The punishment's deserved. She deserved what she got.

How does the difference matter for this discussion? The one way I can think of doesn't prove your point IMO.

He's continued to be rational. She's lying about him, getting him in hot water with the FCC, and not getting anywhere in her thinking process. She deserved what she got.