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Giant Skeletons Found?

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"Documented." Lol.

And why do poor spelling and bad scholarship always go together?

As to the Emperor Maximinus Thrax, sculptures show that he probably had acromegaly. He wasn't 8'6'' (that's an exaggeration from a known unreliable source), but he would likely have been about the same height as modern people with acromegaly (about 7').
 
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Professor Farnsworth said:
I've hit a rich vein of missing links. Java Man, Piltdown Man, Manfred Mann.

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Giant skeleton conspiracy.

"Reports that the Smithsonian destroyed skeletons of giant humanoids to preserve the narrative of evolution are fake news."

"On 3 December 2014, World News Daily Report published an article titled “Smithsonian Admits to Destruction of Thousands of Giant Human Skeletons in Early 1900’s.” In that article, the site reported the Smithsonian Institution colluded with unspecified parties to suppress information proving the existence of giants, and the Supreme Court ruled in 2014 that documentation of the discovery be declassified in 2015:

A US Supreme Court ruling has forced the Smithsonian institution to release classified papers dating from the early 1900’s that proves the organization was involved in a major historical cover up of evidence showing giants human remains in the tens of thousands had been uncovered all across America and were ordered to be destroyed by high level administrators to protect the mainstream chronology of human evolution at the time.

The allegations stemming from the American Institution of Alternative Archeology (AIAA) that the Smithsonian Institution had destroyed thousands of giant human remains during the early 1900’s was not taken lightly by the Smithsonian who responded by suing the organization for defamation and trying to damage the reputation of the 168-year old institution.

During the court case, new elements were brought to light as several Smithsonian whistle blowers admitted to the existence of documents that allegedly proved the destruction of tens of thousands of human skeletons reaching between 6 feet and 12 feet in height, a reality mainstream archeology can not admit to for different reasons, claims AIAA spokesman, James Churward.

There are a number of factors in the first two paragraphs of the claim that conflict with the standard template for fake news, but the article also follows that formula in several ways. On the latter score, searches for the “American Institution of Alternative Archeology (AIAA)” point back either to the article itself or other pages referencing it, a strong indicator that organization does not exist.

Furthermore, the claim regarding the Smithsonian guarding classified documents is unusual: The earliest technically classified documents in the United States go back only as far as World War I (which America entered in 1917), whereas the discovery of giant skeletons is dated vaguely as occurring in the early 1900s. Prior to the first World War, the need to classify documents as we would today had not yet come to issue (due to America’s relative then-isolated status), and such a measure would be even less likely to apply to a archaeological discovery.

An image World News Daily Report claimed was taken in Ohio in 2011 has existed on the internet since 2008, and prior references identify the location of the picture as Turkey, not Ohio. The date initially claimed of the image back then was that it was taken in the 1990s. Another image of “giant skulls” included with the article dated to a 2008 claim made on the web site of the Coast to Coast radio program. (Misattributed images attached to news articles are almost always red flags the claims made in those articles are shaky.)

Yet another image frequently attached to other versions of the claim depict Edouard Beaupre, a French-Canadian man afflicted with gigantism who died in 1904. A sideshow celebrity at the time, Beaupre’s existence was hardly a secret and certainly not classified by the Smithsonian Institution. Finally, no such “Supreme Court” decision exists; and if it did, it would have been a matter of public record and widely reported in mainstream publications due to its notability.

Unlike most fake news stories, the giant skeleton claim is an extant long-running rumor that refuses to stay dead rather than a recently invented falsehood. National Geographic has been battling the hoax since at least 2002, and stated in 2007:

The National Geographic Society has not discovered ancient giant humans, despite rampant reports and pictures.

The hoax began with a doctored photo and later found a receptive online audience — thanks perhaps to the image’s unintended religious connotations.

A digitally altered photograph created in 2002 shows a
reclining giant surrounded by a wooden platform — with a shovel-wielding archaeologist thrown in for scale.

By 2004 the “discovery” was being blogged and emailed all over the world — “Giant Skeleton Unearthed!” — and it’s been enjoying a revival in 2007.


This version of the tale is certainly fake, as it incorporates elements of existing urban legends and hoaxes (obscuring the nature of the source), and World News Daily Report‘s disclaimer page explicitly states its content is fictional in nature:

World News Daily Report is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within worldnewsdailyreport.com are fiction, and presumably fake news. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental, except for all references to politicians and/or celebrities, in which case they are based on real people, but still based almost entirely in fiction."

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Giant skeleton conspiracy.

"Reports that the Smithsonian destroyed skeletons of giant humanoids to preserve the narrative of evolution are fake news."
Maybe they didn't destroy things, maybe others destroyed things.
Smithsonian would never admit it anyway.
Fact remains that there are several cases of 'disappeared' and / or destroyed evidence.

It's true there are hoaxes also.
 
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Fact remains that there are several cases of 'disappeared' and / or destroyed evidence.

Nonsense!

And of course you can't produce any evidence for your ideas because it's all been destroyed... by somebody.
 
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And they have the people under their control now?
It's about what people should or should not believe.
I see you're SDA.
You must be familiar with the concept of 'the great controversy'.
 
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My friend since high school send me a photo of the giant that was found and she was all excited. I couldn't believe she had fallen for this--she was an operating room nurse, very intelligent, and very medically aware--yet she didn't spot the very obvious---the skeleton in the picture was totally articulated. Doesn't happen unless they're a mummy to hold it together. I called her. It just had not occurred to her.
The picture was from a website that held contests for photo shopping. People would submit all sorts of pictures that they had either doctored or had made from scratch--it was awesome. It was my favorite website--they sold it, and the ones that took over didn't do it the same way, the contests were less often, not very many of them and not very good anymore. It was called worth1000 I believe. Can't remember the name of the site that took over, I quite going to it. But the original site taught me to not trust in photos ever again! My favorites were the pictures of Pegasus. Absolutely beautiful and looked absolutely real. They had pictured of mermaids, mermaid skeletons, you name it--they had a contest for it and the pictures could be totally realistic. I really like the photo shopped celebrities. They would label them as "without makeup" and put all sorts of acne, wrinkles, skin tags, warts and other skin horrors and they could look so real it was unnerving and terribly funny.
 
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"So now, to the claims versus the facts. The article claims, “A US Supreme Court ruling has forced the Smithsonian institution to release classified papers dating from the early 1900’s that proves the organization was involved in a major historical cover up…The allegations stemming from the American Institution of Alternative Archeology (AIAA).”
So here we have three solid sources of info: 1) the US Supreme Court, 2) the Smithsonian and 3) the American Institution of Alternative Archeology (AIAA).

We are told that the AIAA sued the Smithsonian and the case uncovered “Smithsonian whistle blowers admitted to the existence of documents that allegedly proved the destruction of tens of thousands of human skeletons reaching between 6 feet and 12 feet in height” as per AIAA spokesman, James Churward.

We have an additional two solid sources of info: 1) documents which the Smithsonian and the Supreme Court has and 2) Churward. There may be a third which are the Smithsonian whistle blowers who may be named in the Supreme Court proceeding documents.

Even this is in error as this photo has been making its rounds online since at least 2008 AD. This appears to be a photo of a supposed bone found in alleged Turkey. This seems to be the same bone on display at the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum. Joe Taylor is the museum’s curator and artist and he stated:

I sculpted a femur 47-1/2 (120 cm) based on a report in a newsletter where it was reported on by the construction engineer who found it and other skeletons the same height. I was commissioned to sculpt the femur so a college professor could show his students how large it was…In every instance, I have told others that it is JUST A SCULPTURE. The real bone was not available…All museums have casts of specimens as well as real bones. Some have sculptures based on reports only, as this one.

More evidence is that during the case “a 1.3 meter long human femur” (4.3 ft.) was entered as evidence. Its source was an ex “high level curators in the mid 1930’s” who, couldn’t you have guessed it, “admitted on his deathbed in writing of the undercover operations of the Smithsonian.”

Another source of info is AIAA director, Hans Guttenberg who stated, “Finally, after over a century of lies, the truth about our giant ancestors shall be revealed to the world.”

Lastly, the Supreme Court documents were scheduled to be released in 2015 AD “and the operation will be coordinated by an independent scientific organization to assure political neutrality” and apparently anonymous since they are not named and have apparently released nothing.

Well, perhaps American Jewish Zionists in Tel Aviv are not aware but all courts keep records as per case numbers and so providing the case number would be part of the least a report could provide.
The bottom line is:
No case number is given and no such case is known.
There is no such thing as the AIAA and thus no James Churward nor Hans Guttenberg.

Allegations about Smithsonian cover-ups of this sort have long been made and so it seems like this was all an attention grabbing piece—which worked wonders—and so people jumped at the least bit of a claim to someone is authority, the Supreme Court, finally sticking it to the conspirators, the Smithsonian.

If you believe anything to do with the existence of giants, regardless of whence they came, the one thing is certain: repeating such obvious fakery without doing the least bit of fact checking or employing common sense, is not the way to go as by doing so you only hurt your own cause."

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"Smithsonian Admits Destroying Giant Human Skeletons – Fiction!


Summary of eRumor:

In an effort preserve the mainstream chronology of human evolution, the Smithsonian destroyed skeletal remains of giant humans found across the U.S

The Truth:



This story is a hoax based on theories about giant skeletons that have persisted for hundreds of years.

A fake news report by the World News Daily Report claimed that recently-released documents dating back to the early 1900s proved that the Smithsonian had destroyed tens of thousands of giant human skeletons in a “major historical cover up.” The article claimed that the remains were destroyed because “mainstream archeology can not admit to” their existence.

Despite the website’s disclosure that its content is intended for “entertainment purposes,” the story was quickly shared more than 60,000 times on Facebook. The website publishes satirical articles and accompanying photos in a way that makes them appear real.

But readers who were duped by the story shouldn’t feel bad. A number of websites and groups have formed around the theory that the skeletal remains of giants have been found around the U.S. since the early 1800s. The History Channel has even featured the show, “Search for the Lost Giants,” on the subject.

A speech delivered by Abe Lincoln during a visit to Niagara Falls in 1848 is often used to lend credibility to the giant skeleton theory. Speaking about the unique appeal of the Niagara Falls, Lincoln said:

“But still there is more. It calls up the indefinite past. When Columbus first sought this continent — when Christ suffered on the cross — when Moses led Israel through the Red-Sea — nay, even when Adam first came from the hand of his Maker — then as now, Niagara was roaring here. The eyes of that species of extinct giants, whose bones fill the mounds of America, have gazed on Niagara, as ours do.”

Lincoln appeared to embrace the idea that ancient giants had once walked the United States. The view wasn’t all that uncommon among influential figures of the time, either. The book “The Natural and Aboriginal History of Tennessee,” written by attorney and historian John Haywood in 1823, attempted to prove that native tribes of Tennessee were descendants of giant ancient Hebrews.

In his book, Haywood writes:

“In White County, a conical mound was lately opened, and in the centre of it was found a skeleton eight feet in length … With this skeleton was found another nearly of the same size, with the top of his head flat, and his eyes placed apparently in the upper part of his forehead.

The descendants of these giants, both in the old and new world, agree with each other in bulk, as their ancestors did with each other, which proves a uniform cause operating equally both in the old and new world. The decrease in bulk seems to have kept pace everywhere with the increase of warm temperature, and with the abbreviation of longevity. The giants of Hebron and Gath, and those of Laconia and Italy, whose large skeletons to this day attest that there they formerly dwelt, compared with those now found in West Tennessee, demonstrate that a change of climate, or of some other cause, has worked a remarkable change in the human system.”

Haywood was an influential and respected figure, which lends credibility to his work. At the time of the book’s publication, Haywood was a justice on the Tennessee Supreme Court, and a county in Tennessee was named after him the same year it was published. However, Haywood’s work was later criticized for inaccuracies. It’s believed that Haywood interviewed early pioneers and recounted undependable second-hand accounts of their discoveries in his books.

So, while conspiracy theories about the skeletons of giants in the U.S. have persisted for hundreds of years, nobody has actually found one. And the eRumor’s claim that the Smithsonian has plotted to keep it that way is false."

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My friend since high school send me a photo of the giant that was found and she was all excited. I couldn't believe she had fallen for this--she was an operating room nurse, very intelligent, and very medically aware--yet she didn't spot the very obvious---the skeleton in the picture was totally articulated. Doesn't happen unless they're a mummy to hold it together. I called her. It just had not occurred to her.
The picture was from a website that held contests for photo shopping. People would submit all sorts of pictures that they had either doctored or had made from scratch--it was awesome. It was my favorite website--they sold it, and the ones that took over didn't do it the same way, the contests were less often, not very many of them and not very good anymore. It was called worth1000 I believe. Can't remember the name of the site that took over, I quite going to it. But the original site taught me to not trust in photos ever again!
I know of that photoshop contest.
But where's the logic in thinking that because there was a photoshop contest, any bit of evidence is therefore fake?
That doesn't make sense.
My favorites were the pictures of Pegasus. Absolutely beautiful and looked absolutely real. They had pictured of mermaids, mermaid skeletons, you name it--they had a contest for it and the pictures could be totally realistic. I really like the photo shopped celebrities. They would label them as "without makeup" and put all sorts of acne, wrinkles, skin tags, warts and other skin horrors and they could look so real it was unnerving and terribly funny.
There are also fakes made, like that mermaid you have probably seen as well.
There are also misinterpretations of animal remains, there are also hoaxers and misleading websites and pages.
This however doesn't discredit te other evidence.
It just means you have to be careful with who or what you believe.
But that's always the thing with religious subjects.
You have to be able to discern and be sceptical.
Denying everything isn't being discerning and sceptical, denying everything is just another form of blind faith.
 
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The earth is flat!

Geocentrism is true!

The earth is hallow!

Lets see, what else can we start?

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The earth is flat!

Geocentrism is true!

The earth is hallow!

Lets see, what else can we start?

God Bless

Till all are one.
So, when you notice citing official denial doesn't have the impact it has on you, you stoop to ridicule.

On the other hand, i can relate to the frustration of others dismissing your view...

I prefer to stick to where the evidence itself leads to.
But i do have a tendency to favour controversial and / or minority views.
I'm one of those folks who believes what's in the Bible, for example.
 
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But where's the logic in thinking that because there was a photoshop contest, any bit of evidence is therefore fake?
That doesn't make sense.

Well, perhaps you could show us some credible evidence? So far everything I've seen is fake.
 
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I know of that photoshop contest.
But where's the logic in thinking that because there was a photoshop contest, any bit of evidence is therefore fake?
That doesn't make sense.
There are also fakes made, like that mermaid you have probably seen as well.
There are also misinterpretations of animal remains, there are also hoaxers and misleading websites and pages.
This however doesn't discredit te other evidence.
It just means you have to be careful with who or what you believe.
But that's always the thing with religious subjects.
You have to be able to discern and be sceptical.
Denying everything isn't being discerning and sceptical, denying everything is just another form of blind faith.

That is the point--discernment. Using our God given brains to spot the fakes. To sort through evidence. To sort through the bible for what words mean, in their original language and to that culture. Research can be very time consuming but needs to be done esp. in this day and age. Our eyes and minds can be tweaked too easily any more. I tell you right now, I am not going to believe in all these skeletons being found but that nobody can find. It's like certain gold plates that only certain people supposedly saw and then they were taken to heaven and nobody can examine them now. Yes, faith is great, and Jesus blesses those that believe, but He didn't deride Thomas for doubting, He just showed up and proved it to Him. That is all I say--prove it, some things you just should not take on blind faith.
 
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That is the point--discernment. Using our God given brains to spot the fakes. To sort through evidence. To sort through the bible for what words mean, in their original language and to that culture. Research can be very time consuming but needs to be done esp. in this day and age. Our eyes and minds can be tweaked too easily any more. I tell you right now, I am not going to believe in all these skeletons being found but that nobody can find. It's like certain gold plates that only certain people supposedly saw and then they were taken to heaven and nobody can examine them now. Yes, faith is great, and Jesus blesses those that believe, but He didn't deride Thomas for doubting, He just showed up and proved it to Him. That is all I say--prove it, some things you just should not take on blind faith.
I understand what you say.
I agree with you actually, but i draw different conclusions.
"Prove it" you say.
I'm wondering what you make of this then:
(posted earlier)
 
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So, when you notice citing official denial doesn't have the impact it has on you, you stoop to ridicule.

On the other hand, i can relate to the frustration of others dismissing your view...

I prefer to stick to where the evidence itself leads to.
But i do have a tendency to favour controversial and / or minority views.
I'm one of those folks who believes what's in the Bible, for example.

No one in this thread has ever denied that scriptures speak of "sons of God".

I never have.

What I have and always will stand against is the myth of 40 foot, or even 450 foot tall "giants".

I will also admit that there have been people, down through time that grew unusually tall, but nothing to support what is being said here.

After a certain point, even if it was possible, the human body is not able to support itself after a certain height. That is a medical fact.

Joints, blood vessels, the heart simply cannot support a body much bigger that 12 foot tall.

The shear weight would squash the joints. Blood vessels would literally have be as thick as a garden hose. The heart would have to pump blood at such a high pressure that heart failure is inevitable.

Reports the there is some sort of a "Smithsonian Skeleton Conspiracy to destroy recods and evidence of nephilim are simply false.

And whats worse is to think using or quoting from a non-canonical book will seemingly make it true is even worse.

What's next, "fallen angels lived in Atlantis"?

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I understand what you say.
I agree with you actually, but i draw different conclusions.
"Prove it" you say.
I'm wondering what you make of this then:
(posted earlier)

That don't prove anything as there are thousands of plaster casts of supposedly the "bigfoot". Even supposedly film.

Has any proof ever been given?

I mean bona-fide, bigfoot skin, skeleton, bones?

Until then...

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