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Getting saved sounds a bit too easy

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I'm reading this
http://www.christianforums.com/faq.php?faq=gospel#faq_christian
Specifically the 'Receiving Him Now' part at the bottom.
So if I pray that, in all sincerity, honesty and earnestness, then I'm saved?
Question is, what happens tomorrow if I, say, stub my toe and swear, maybe using His name? Am I back to square one? Or do I apologise in silent prayer and vow to try harder next time?
Also, should I read the whole Bible before I even think of giving my life to Christ? I mean, I need to know what I'm about to do, right?
 
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understanding and accepting salvation is not easy for all, as yourself.

Since your not accepting it, then it's hard.
If you say it's easy but does not accept it, then how is it then,
easy?

Salvation is something to work for and must be guarded all the times.
Salvation is our love and faith to Jesus, none other.
Glory and Repentence is something we will see along the walk in the road of salvation.

You see, salvation is like a road but a few people takes it.

Why?

Because it's narrow and hard to go through.
People , instead, choose to take high way and high way is law, arrogance, hatred, and easy belief.
Even the Christians who claim they are saved, will take this path.

Without a strong faith, our salvation is in vain and hope is gone.
 
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It really is that easy. You lay your life before Christ, and He accepts you. You could read the whole Bible before accepting Him, but there are two points to consider:
1) what if you get hit by a bus before you get all the way through?
2) reading the Bible only begins to tell you what you are getting yourself into. The rest comes by experience.

Now, what if you stub your toe and take God's name in vain? You wouldn't be the first Christian, nor would you be the last. From the point you are saved, all of your sins are paid for. [Read Romans 6:1,2 for the caveat.] Of course, you must ask forgiveness and ask for God's help with not repeating that particular sin.

A Christian's goal in life is to become as Christlike as he/she can. It is a long process with lots of failures. There is no such thing as the perfect Christian. Fortunately, He is there to help us pick up and move on from them.

I am praying that you make a decision for Christ. Life is ever so much better with Him than without Him. I know, because I've tried it both ways.
 
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Salvation is a free gift from God.
He offers that gift freely, but it isn't by any means easy.
The holy spirit, not your inner self, will tell you that you need Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior. In order to be saved you must trust and believe that Jesus Christ died, rose from the grave, and is living still. Furthermore, you must repent, and acknowledge that you are a sinner. Just like the rest of humanity, you are destined to go straight to hell, as once was I. You can do nothing at all to help this, as we cannot choose Christ in our depraved state, but Christ has chosen some of us to redeem through his sacrifice on the cross. Repentence is not the same as forgiveness. Repentence is turning your life around in the opposite direction of your sin. When we are born again, we become new creations, and old things are passed away, all things are become new:) .
If you are thinking about making a decision for Christ, then likely the holy spirit has already begun to work in your life. I will pray for you, and if you have any more questions feel free to post them and I will attempt to answer them to the best of my ability. So to simplify what I have said.
1 You must believe Jesus lived,died,rose again.
2 You must trust him and only him to save your eternal soul.
3You must understand you have nothing to do with it, and Christ has done everything, you can't earn your salvation.
4You must truly repent and turn away from your sin, this doesnt mean that you won't mess up in the future, but you should always strive to please your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
5 If you become a child of God, then you can never lose that, but if you "make a decision for Christ" and then live like the world (drinking,drugs, adultery,lying,stealing,etc.) you probably never were saved in the first place.
I hope you have seen what you needed.
In God's Love
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Read Matthew. It talks a lot about faith and being saved.

7:21: "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingodm of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." 22. "
Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'" 23. "And then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness."



You must have absolute faith, and righteousness will come through faith, but faith may not come from righteousness alone.
 
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I'm reading this
http://www.christianforums.com/faq.php?faq=gospel#faq_christian
Specifically the 'Receiving Him Now' part at the bottom.
So if I pray that, in all sincerity, honesty and earnestness, then I'm saved?
Question is, what happens tomorrow if I, say, stub my toe and swear, maybe using His name? Am I back to square one? Or do I apologise in silent prayer and vow to try harder next time?
Also, should I read the whole Bible before I even think of giving my life to Christ? I mean, I need to know what I'm about to do, right?
If you are feeling guilty before God, and you want Him to forgive you, then that is the first most important thing you need to become a child of God.

When God forgave me of all the sins of my past, I felt clean and new.

All of a sudden I wanted to do things to please God.
I wanted to read and study my Bible.
I wanted to serve and help people. My heart felt full of love.
I had the ability to be patient.
Things that used to make me angry would no longer affect me that way.

It wasn't an overwhelming struggle to be different. All of a sudden I just was different. I was a New Creation in Christ.

When you confess you are a sinner and receive Jesus into your heart, you become an adopted child of God. Once a child, always a child. Nothing you can accidentally do will change that. If you're no different a day or so after the prayer than before, then I would say that God had not changed you.

Only the Holy Spirit can convict you of your sin. Ask God to show you your sinfulness.
 
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I'm reading this
http://www.christianforums.com/faq.php?faq=gospel#faq_christian
Specifically the 'Receiving Him Now' part at the bottom.
So if I pray that, in all sincerity, honesty and earnestness, then I'm saved?
Question is, what happens tomorrow if I, say, stub my toe and swear, maybe using His name? Am I back to square one? Or do I apologise in silent prayer and vow to try harder next time?
Also, should I read the whole Bible before I even think of giving my life to Christ? I mean, I need to know what I'm about to do, right?
matthew.......

Receiving Christ isn't difficult. Jesus said to ask and you will receive if your heart is sincere.

An individual doesn't just recite a bunch of words then walk away. Salvation isn't a "one time Jesus experience" and then all is forgotten afterwards.

First, kneel before God in humbleness and with a sincere heart and tell Him that you repent and want to turn from your sinful ways. Then ask for the Holy Spirit into your heart which gives you the power to live a christian life. A person can't be christ like without the power of God and so the spirit of God (Holy Spirit) to help them.

Its a slow growing but continous lifestyle and life long process. Plus, Christ is to be your main focus in life and your personal savior. After praying daily, reading the Bible and surrounding yourself with inspirational and a healthy environment you will continue to grow spiritually.

Don't watch junk t.v. and trash, but be renewed in your spirit and mind in the Holy Spirit.

After awhile you won't practice sin because your desires will change, but you will never become sinless unless your dead because we still dwell in this old nature body.

I have prayed for you.
 
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I'm reading this
http://www.christianforums.com/faq.php?faq=gospel#faq_christian
Specifically the 'Receiving Him Now' part at the bottom.
So if I pray that, in all sincerity, honesty and earnestness, then I'm saved?
Question is, what happens tomorrow if I, say, stub my toe and swear, maybe using His name? Am I back to square one? Or do I apologise in silent prayer and vow to try harder next time?
Also, should I read the whole Bible before I even think of giving my life to Christ? I mean, I need to know what I'm about to do, right?

When we accept Jesus as our Redeemer we do not maintain our salvation status by remaining sinless, We maintain our salvation status by believing Jesus. We are saved because our sins will be forgiven not because we have successfully ceased to sin. No one is able to stop sinning saved or unsaved. But we can do our best to Love others and God.

You should read The Gospels at lest. The Books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. I would then read the remainder of the Bible. And then the Old testament.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days
 
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"If anyone wishes to come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me."

There are no 'magic words' of salvation. One must humble himself, truly repent[denial of self], and strive to walk in the image of Christ[picking up the cross].
 
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I'm reading this
http://www.christianforums.com/faq.php?faq=gospel#faq_christian
Specifically the 'Receiving Him Now' part at the bottom.
So if I pray that, in all sincerity, honesty and earnestness, then I'm saved?
Question is, what happens tomorrow if I, say, stub my toe and swear, maybe using His name? Am I back to square one? Or do I apologise in silent prayer and vow to try harder next time?
Also, should I read the whole Bible before I even think of giving my life to Christ? I mean, I need to know what I'm about to do, right?

Well...yes and no. Being a christian isn't just about saying magical words and getting a free pass into heaven. When I was 9, I became a christian, but it didn't end there. God cares just as much about what you do with your life afterwards. Being a christian is a life-long (literally) commitement to God. Hey, I've been a christian for 20plus years, and I still have my down falls. I don't lead a perfect life, but I repent of what I do and rely on God to help me with the temptation to not fall into the same pitfall. I try to live my life holy. I don't mean I have a halo hanging over my head, but I try to live my life for God and not conform myself to what the world says is acceptable. I think that's the biggest struggle for a christian is trying to straddle between God and the world.
 
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Anything that takes a lifetime to accomplish is not really easy. It takes day by day commitment and a stick-to-it-ativenss to fight the good fight against our own fallen natures that we inherited from Adam - the forefather of all mankind. We overcome sin in our lives a little at a time and by the blood of Jesus, never forgetting our testimony of fighting the good fight of faith - never giving up to sin and the old nature of works that lead to death. See what the apostle Paul said of himself and his sin nature:

Romans 7:15 I don’t really understand myself, for I want to do what is right, but I don’t do it. Instead, I do what I hate.
16 But if I know that what I am doing is wrong, this shows that I agree that the law is good.
17 So I am not the one doing wrong; it is sin living in me that does it.
18 And I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. I want to do what is right, but I can’t.
19 I want to do what is good, but I don’t. I don’t want to do what is wrong, but I do it anyway.
20 But if I do what I don’t want to do, I am not really the one doing wrong; it is sin living in me that does it.
21 I have discovered this principle of life––that when I want to do what is right, I inevitably do what is wrong.
22 I love God’s law with all my heart.
23 But there is another power within me that is at war with my mind. This power makes me a slave to the sin that is still within me.
24 Oh, what a miserable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin and death?
25 Thank God! The answer is in Jesus Christ our Lord. So you see how it is: In my mind I really want to obey God’s law, but because of my sinful nature I am a slave to sin.

When we become "new creatures" in Christ, as part of His body of believers, we have a new nature that wants to please God, and this new spiritual birth makes us "born again". This new nature resists the old nature of sin and death. Paul writes of this in Galatians:

Galatians 5:17 The sinful nature wants to do evil, which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, so you are not free to carry out your good intentions.

So son't think it unusual to find yourself in a fight with the old ways. As long as we keep trying, God keeps supplying us with what we need to overcome. He is merciful and patient with His children and His love is vastly greater than that of men. Trust Him and continue in faith to have the ultimate victory over not only sin, but death.

Revelations 12:11 "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.

1Timothy 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, to which you were also called and have confessed the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.
 
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Thanks for all your replies. There is much to think about and digest.
What worries me the most is that I have some mental health problems and they, how shall I put it, well lets just say that I do some odd and/or unpleasent things occasionally. Sometimes I don't feel I am responsible (Its hard to explain it very well).
Anyway, do you think God would take this into account? I mean, I could believe with all my heart, yet still the illness remains and the effects of the illness remain.
Also, how do *I* know if I'm being sincere when I ask for forgiveness? I might feel like it at the time, but later?
Sorry - more questions.
 
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More questions are fine. God knows everything about you, more than you know about yourself. Once you are saved, you will not lose that status, regardless of what your mental illness makes you do.

We all have our own unique cross to bear. Some people struggle with pornography. Others struggle with excessive anger. Your mental illness is your cross to bear.

The great thing about becoming a child of God is that you don't have to carry it alone anymore. Jesus will help you support the weight. The Bible says that we will not be tempted beyond what we can bear--although I have to admit it's been close a few times for me.

God loves you and wants the best for you. By becoming a child of God, you accept His will for you. I have suffered life-long, brain-chemical-induced, depression and have been very close to ending it all a few times. Fortunately, He has been there for me every time.

In fact, there was one time when I was really close, and I fell on my knees and begged Him to help me, because I could not control myself any longer. I felt His hand cover me and I fell asleep in seconds. When I awoke, I was no longer suicidal. No, my problems did not magically disappear, but He has been with me every step of the way.

You can have that, too. All a child of God has to do is just ask and he/she shall receive.
 
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Thanks for all your replies. There is much to think about and digest.
What worries me the most is that I have some mental health problems and they, how shall I put it, well lets just say that I do some odd and/or unpleasent things occasionally. Sometimes I don't feel I am responsible (Its hard to explain it very well).
Anyway, do you think God would take this into account? I mean, I could believe with all my heart, yet still the illness remains and the effects of the illness remain.
Also, how do *I* know if I'm being sincere when I ask for forgiveness? I might feel like it at the time, but later?
Sorry - more questions.

It wouldn't be fair of me to say I understand what you're going through. I guess it's something that you know and I couldn't be judgemental to assume that I do understand and give you advice. Do you think that you could believe God for who He is, and if it's in His will, that He can help you with your health problem? I'm not trying to say that the second you give your life to God, He will heal you. Then again, we don't know what God would have in store for you. It also may be something you'll live with and have faith in God that He knows what's best for us.

And about the sincereity....hmmm...not sure how to answer that one. I guess only you would know. You can ask for forgiveness, but are you willing to repent...to turn from your ways? Being a christian is a constant, daily way of living. If you're ready to give your life to God, you may want to visit some of your local churches. Being around other believers, prayer and just studying my bible helps me stay in line. If it wasn't for this in my life, I'd be off on my own merry path. These things hold me accountable to living my life for God and not myself.

Gosh...I rambled...sorry...I had a full cup of coffee this morn...:)
 
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To add to what Lamb had to say, faith is a decision, not an emotion. If you decide to follow God's ways and to learn more about him, you are exhibiting faith. God knows your heart and knows if you are sincere. He will also send you the Holy Spirit, who will help make things clear for you, as well.

When your conscience convicts you for something you have done wrong, it will feel different. Instead of feeling hopeless and guilty because you have failed yet again, you will have a different feeling--one more like longing. That feeling is the Holy Spirit urging you to go to God and ask forgiveness.

If you have the Holy Spirit inside of you, then you know you are a child of God.
 
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I think I understand what you're saying.
I do have trouble with this 'turn away from your ways' stuff. Just what exactly does that mean?
For example, I play guitar, play the odd videogame, I'm not working at present, I study via distance learning, watch the odd dvd and so on. Are you suggesting I throw all that out of my life?
If God wants to improve my health then OK. But if He doesnt then I guess that when it does affect me, I dont have to feel too bad about it, because its His will that I still have it. Sometimes I do things which, at the time of doing them, I know are wrong. Sometimes I do things and feel bad afterwards, sometimes days or weeks after.
I really think I do believe in God. But as I'm sure you'll appreciate there are *lots* of different ways of interpreting His word. That sort of puts me off as I couldn't possibly know, I think, which 'way' is right.
But I guess that comes later.
 
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I'm reading this
http://www.christianforums.com/faq.php?faq=gospel#faq_christian
Specifically the 'Receiving Him Now' part at the bottom.
So if I pray that, in all sincerity, honesty and earnestness, then I'm saved?

Yes and no.

The things in that prayer are things that you do need to acknowledge in order to be saved, but being born again isn't about saying a prayer and no prayer is a magic mantra that saves you just by repeating it.

Many years ago, I lived in a house that backed up to a pasture where a man kept sheep.

I remember I would sit on my back porch and watch them, thinking how beautiful they were with their white fleece.

This was my practice for a long time until, when the winter came, it started to snow.

As the snow began to pile up, I noticed something very peculiar about the sheep. As the snow came down, I could now see the sheep in contrast to the white snow.

Against the bright, completely white snow, I realized that these sheep weren't really white at all. In fact, they were filthy! The sheep didn't change. The difference was that I now had an objective standard that was pure white to judge them by.

In the same way, we go about our lives believing that we're good. That we're not sinners and, if we are, then at least we can take comfort in the fact that we're not as bad as those people next door.

But when our lives and our sin are held up to the objective standard of God's holiness, then we see that we're just like those sheep. We find that, standing against the backdrop of his righteousness, our sins make us filthy and guilty before God.

The first step to Biblical salvation is to repent of your sins and your rebellion against God. Examine your life and your sins in light of God's objective standard of holiness. When you do, you'll be horrified by them.

Realize that they seperate you from God and make you an enemy of God.

Call out to Jesus and believe by faith that He is the Unblemished Lamb offered as a sacrifice to forgive your sins. Acknowledge that Jesus Christ paid your debt for you. Confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that He is Lord and you will be saved.

Question is, what happens tomorrow if I, say, stub my toe and swear, maybe using His name? Am I back to square one? Or do I apologise in silent prayer and vow to try harder next time?

Then you repent and ask God to teach you to honor Him and to not commit that sin again. Everyone sins. Every Christian sins.

However, the Bible makes a big distinction between someone who is saved, but who sins in a momentary moral lapse, and one who lives a lifestyle of willful disobedience.:

Once you're born again, nothing can break your union with the Lord, but you can break your communion with Him.

Think of it this way:

Imagine that a relationship with God is like being in a room with Him.

Now imagine that every unrepented of sin is like a brick. You take His name in vain here. You tell a little lie there.

Brick. Brick.

You gossip once. You commit adultery in your heart.

Brick. Brick. Brick. Brick.

Before long, you notice that all of these bricks are starting to form a wall. There you are, and there is the wall. But, on the other side of the wall now, is God. He is still there. He's still in that relationship-room with you.

He's still talking to you. Only now, you can't hear Him because you've built a wall between the two of you. You try to pray, but it seems as though none of your prayers can get through the wall.

The only way to tear down the wall and rebuild the relationship is through repentance.

Also, should I read the whole Bible before I even think of giving my life to Christ? I mean, I need to know what I'm about to do, right?

The whole Bible? No.

I would suggest that you take about fifteen to twenty minutes to read the Gospel of John and then Romans 5-7 for starters.
 
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Unless you have a specific calling to do so by God, you don't have to give up the guitar, video games, or DVDs. Christians enjoy all those things. Now, you may find that playing certain types of video games becomes less appealing, because they are not God-pleasing. The Holy Spirit will make which ones are inappropriate clear to you.

Yes, there are lots of ways to interpret the scriptures, but most Christians agree on 90% of things. The differences are usually minor. One thing that all Christians agree on is the Nicene Creed, which is the basis on this site for calling yourself Christian. You don't have to completely understand the Creed to be saved, but diligent Bible study and fellowship with other Christians will show it to be true.

I do pray that you will join God's family so that you can receive the huge number of blessings that He has to give you.
 
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Thanks for all your replies. There is much to think about and digest.
What worries me the most is that I have some mental health problems and they, how shall I put it, well lets just say that I do some odd and/or unpleasent things occasionally. Sometimes I don't feel I am responsible (Its hard to explain it very well).
Anyway, do you think God would take this into account? I mean, I could believe with all my heart, yet still the illness remains and the effects of the illness remain.
Of course God takes those things into account. God knows you intimately. He knows what we're going to say before we say it!
Psalm 139:4
"4 For there is not a word on my tongue,
But behold, O LORD, You know it altogether."

In the Book of James it says that "Mercy triumphs over judgement." That means that while God is judging us, He is first and foremost merciful toward us.

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom." If you fear sinning against God, that will go a long way toward keeping you on the right path.

I hope and pray that God will heal you of your illness. I pray that He would touch your mind with His Holy Spirit and give you a "sound mind".:crossrc:
 
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