Its like inappropriate content.... "I know it when I see it".
Either way, you cant mostly-stop at a red light. Not legally anyway.
If you read my posts, I said that's not actually what the citation concerns. I don't have it in front of me, but it's slippery language they use. It's usually hard to get a straight answer from people whose business is trying to scam you.
There's two parts to this. This is a little enclave municipality with it's own code of traffic laws. (Known for decades as a notorius speed trap as well as known for the brutality and corruption of its police force, which is another reason I want to fight them.) All I'm going by right now is the language on this letter, and it doesn't mention anything like "failure to stop at a red light".
Well "entering an intersection" is probably defined in the law. If so, whats the definition? If not, then yeah, its absurd.
Sometimes they put those white lines down that you aren't supposed to cross until you make a full stop, but those tend to be more at intersections with stop signs I believe. There is probably some law about having to maintain a distance to see the traffic light and not impede traffic. I'm going to have a look at that sat image and see if there are any white lines he may have crossed without stopping.
I was only joking but somebody died there:
You would have had to stop behind the white line first before proceeding into the intersection to make the right on red. Even if you had stopped on the cross walk you technically went too far. (See the above- pasted close up of the intersection.) My 'legal opinion' in this matter is that you don't really have a defense. Sorry. I work in insurance and have done a lot of traffic arbitration over he years.
Yeah. You have to stop on a red light there. No amount of semantic hair splitting will avail.
I mentioned in an earlier post that I had several points to argue, and that this was my weakest. My strongest was that our state law requires that each roadway leading to a video enforced traffic place must have a sign warning motorists of it. The roadway I proceeded from did not. So if you ever get one of these, do a little research.
I mentioned in an earlier post that I had several points to argue, and that this was my weakest. My strongest was that our state law requires that each roadway leading to a video enforced traffic place must have a sign warning motorists of it. The roadway I proceeded from did not. So if you ever get one of these, do a little research.
Anyway, I went to the police station to request a hearing date. The guy behind the glass window says "step into my office". He's a guy wearing a polo shirt with his name on it. I don't know if he's a receptionist or a cop or what. We sit down and he plays the video, which takes all of 5 seconds, then he says "You didn't stop, I find you liable". I reminded him that I was there to request a hearing. He says "This was the hearing".
And that hearing was going to cost me an additional $50 bond fee. I didn't have my notes with me, but he heard me out, let me make my case. He turned out to be a good guy. He confided in me that the video violation thing is just on the honor system. They used to notify the motor vehicle registrar but they don't anymore. (Which may be because a lot of them in my state are just ignoring the notifications. And there's a bill in the senate to get rid of the video violation systems. And all the major credit report agencies ignore it too. Seems everybody thinks it's bogus.) If I don't pay the worst that will happen is the private company will turn the matter over to a collection agency which may send me nasty letters for the rest of my life.
Youre mixing up the deeds. The ticket was for failing to stop at a red light.
