Genocide Induced Climate Change

[JackRT]

A new study has produced strong evidence that the genocide of the aboriginal peoples of the Americas during the 17th century triggered a global cooling event that persisted for centuries.

European colonizers' mass killing of Native Americans caused change in climate: study

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

I thought your link was going to take me to the Babylon Bee. I can't stand assertions made in the name of science that have nothing to do with the scientific method.

 

[Chesterton]

Dying because you have a weak immune system does not make you a victim of "genocide". Everyone, please stop saying that. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. What does kill you, kills you.

 

[JackRT]

I thought your link was going to take me to the Babylon Bee. I can't stand assertions made in the name of science that have nothing to do with the scientific method.

I am a little puzzled --- are you dissing the BB or the article I cited?

 

[USincognito]

A new study has produced strong evidence that the genocide of the aboriginal peoples of the Americas during the 17th century triggered a global cooling event that persisted for centuries.

European colonizers' mass killing of Native Americans caused change in climate: study

I'm skeptical, but I'll check out the article later.

 

[JackRT]

Dying because you have a weak immune system does not make you a victim of "genocide". Everyone, please stop saying that. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. What does kill you, kills you.

You are quite right that European diseases inadvertently introduced accounted for most of the 50 million plus deaths in a sort of passive genocide but the genocide was also active in the form of slavery and wholesale slaughter all in a mad scramble for wealth and power in lands that did not belong to them. But that is a side issue to the assertion in the scientific study that anthropogenic climate change is not just a recent issue.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

From the article:
"
The study, conducted by researchers at the University College London (UCL), found that the arrival of European settlers killed nearly 56 million indigenous people over the course of roughly 100 years, causing large areas of farmland to go abandoned and reforested.

The study said the new swath of vegetated land, which CNN reported was roughly the size of France at the time, caused a massive decrease in carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere."

I found this interesting, that a decrease in carbon in the atmosphere causes a cooling of the planet, while (today) an increase in carbon causes a warming in the planet.

 

[JackRT]

I found this interesting, that a decrease in carbon in the atmosphere causes a cooling of the planed, while (today) an increase in carbon causes a warming in the planet

It is obvious that the two are linked.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

It is obvious that the two are linked.

Obviously! So by this assertion, if we have a large reduction in world population, we could experience another planetary cooling,possibly another ice age.

 

[JackRT]

Obviously! So by this assertion, if we have a large reduction in world population, we could experience another planetary cooling,possibly another ice age.

That seems like a real possibility. A linked possibility is that if such a population reduction were carefully managed it might be possible to achieve a climate balance with a stable population.

 

[Kaon]

Dying because you have a weak immune system does not make you a victim of "genocide". Everyone, please stop saying that. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. What does kill you, kills you.

But, killing people because you want, or think you are owed their land is genocide.

 

[JackRT]

But, killing people because you want, or think you are owed their land is genocide.

There is also evidence of Europeans deliberately trying to introduce smallpox in an effort to get rid of unwanted tribes.

 

[Kaon]

Obviously! So by this assertion, if we have a large reduction in world population, we could experience another planetary cooling,possibly another ice age.

I see what you did.

Increasing the (partial) pressure of a gas like CO2 can increase the temperature, but that ignores about 1000+ other potentials, circulations, and dynamic transformations that either absorb or exhaust the energy before it has time to build to a substantial amount.

The fact that climate change is man made is the lie; the change itself is a consequence of a change of an age. This has happened several times before.

Let's not forget during the alleged dark ages, Europe was the one without light. The rest of the world was "o.k.," and progressing. These changes occur because of spiritual reasons that are connected to the physical - like everything else.

But a cull of humans won't stop what is happening; however, looking through history they must have told people the same androgenic story concerning their LOCAL climate change, since during these times people went to war and had serious psychological paradigm shifts right before.

 

[Kaon]

There is also evidence of Europeans deliberately trying to introduce smallpox in an effort to get rid of unwanted tribes.

I'm glad academia got the funding to convince themselves (and others) of what most already knew.

Late, I suppose, is better than never.

 

[sfs]

Increasing the (partial) pressure of a gas like CO2 can increase the temperature, but that ignores about 1000+ other potentials, circulations, and dynamic transformations that either absorb or exhaust the energy before it has time to build to a substantial amount.

Right. If only we had scientific researchers who studied how this complex, interrelated climate system is reacting and will react to increased CO2. We could call them "climatologists", and they could tell us what's likely to happen.

 

[SolomonVII]

I wonder if the genocide of the Black Death had any effect on the snow base on Everest?

 

[Kaon]

I wonder if the genocide of the Black Death had any effect on the snow base on Everest?

Black death (plague) wasn't genocide, but plague usually loses most of its veracity under 10 degrees C.

 

[essentialsaltes]

I hope we don't see climate change induced genocide, due to scarce water or food in some area.

 

[Kaon]

Right. If only we had scientific researchers who studied how this complex, interrelated climate system is reacting and will react to increased CO2. We could call them "climatologists", and they could tell us what's likely to happen.

Oh please. The problem with academia (and, perhaps your post) is that one assumes the scientific method is the best and only method. Anything that doesn't fit the academic model is considered misguided at best.

Why would I (if I knew the "secrets") tell you anything by the tone of your post? Academia is for whomever needs it to explain the world around them. Some people don't need academics to tell them about the world in which they live. Some people are academics that subscribe to something else.

The folly of academia lies in the people that trust in it as their master - with or without knowing it. We have discussed academia before; when there is an empass, you focus on the psychology instead of the academics if someone disagrees with you. That gets really tired and boring; extrapolate that attitude over the world, and it should be clear why the world is so lost despite the funding for academia. Moreover, the secrets that academia has barely realized are never given to the world because you can't fill a full cup.

 

[Kaon]

I hope we don't see climate change induced genocide, due to scarce water or food in some area.

How strong is your hope? You know what happens next, I would say.

And, we know the order in which the undesirables will be culled should it get too environmentally extreme.