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Jesus has a place for children's songs in in his word.
Yeah...but not when it comes to Gen 1. I don't think He was singing when it came to His referrences of man and woman at the beginning of creation or the "days of Noah" or "days of Lot". I don't think anyone was singing in Mat.24. or Luke 16., etc...
 
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Comparing scripture to a fun song? Ridiculous!
Why shouldn't we? After all, Scripture is full of songs. Why, Psalm 137 was even the UK #1 single in 1978.

My question remains. Why can't we treat Genesis like a song? Songs are powerful. Songs often express eternal truths.
 
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i agree 100% but there is also a time basis there too, as in the fifth day , the sixth day ect...

yes the greek word could mean any period of time, or 24 hours, but there are places in the bible where the periods of time such as 1000 years is specific, why not specify if the greek word meant more the 1 day
Your correct in a way

1. It's Hebrew.
2. Genesis 1 could be a parable. Jesus seemed particularly fond of those.
3. 1000 years is a highly symbolic phrase.
Your wrong with No.1.
No. 2. it either is or it isn't it cannot be both. Jesus used them in the 4 Gospels of the NT. This does not mean that they are used in everycase, everywhere in the Bible. Many people take it literally and with good reason, it is clear in its description. Just because science disagrees does not make the discription innacurate.
No.3. 1 day is apparently highly symbolic to. Especially when it includes the descriptive "morning and evening the 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc day."
sorry your right hebrew, ok very possible, but jesus wasnt around yet in the form of jesus, God allmighty did not use parables, to my knowledge, i could be wrong,
There is no need to be sorry especially when you are not wrong.

The earliest extant version of the entire Bible is written in Koine Greek. It is called the Septuagint, because 70 men wrote it from the original texts they had. These original texts were written in Aramaic not Hebrew, a common mistake but a mistake nonetheless. Aramaic was the Lingua Franca of the ancient world (middle east) before Alexander the Great's campaigns to creat an empire pushed koine Greek into the role of Lingua Franca.

You are also correct that Jesus was not around yet in human form. The occurances of Jesus in the OT have been called a theophany which means an appearance of God to man. In many cases it is not clear what part of the Triune it is that is appearing. Many believe that in the OT God was very clear. This is because the people needed very clear instructions as they were prone to going astray. Thus the 10 Commandments, You shall not have any other God but me!etc. The first 5 books of the Bible were written by Moses who because of his position in Egyptian societ would have been very well educated and travelled. He would have known quite well what a day is.
 
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Moses did write songs:
Deut 31:22 "Moses therefore wrote this song the same day, and taught it the children of Israel."

why not the whole bible for that matter...maybe I'll change my bible's name to The Holy Hymnal
why not take the whole bible literally? what about revelation?
 
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Many believe that in the OT God was very clear. This is because the people needed very clear instructions as they were prone to going astray. Thus the 10 Commandments, You shall not have any other God but me!etc.
The Pharisees certainly thought the OT law was clear and literal. The NT has a rather different approach.

Heb 10:1 For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities.

Col 2:16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.
17 These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

The Pharisees had real problems with Jesus' rejection of their literal interpretation of the Sabbath Command

The first 5 books of the Bible were written by Moses who because of his position in Egyptian societ would have been very well educated and travelled. He would have known quite well what a day is.
All the more reason to pay attention to what Moses says in Psalm 90 the creation psalm with a nonliteral understanding of God's days and the YEC favourites 'evening' and 'morning'.
 
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These original texts were written in Aramaic not Hebrew, a common mistake but a mistake nonetheless. Aramaic was the Lingua Franca of the ancient world (middle east) before Alexander the Great's campaigns to creat an empire pushed koine Greek into the role of Lingua Franca.

what is your evidence that Genesis (or the OT) was original written in Aramaic?

1. It's Hebrew.
Your wrong with No.1.

or reference scholarship that we can read.
tia.
 
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