Genesis 6 Giants

ebedmelech · Mar 18, 2013

Douggg said:
Yet for their incredible size and numbers, there is nothing in the bible about man fighting dinosaurs. Which what has that got to do with the topic of this thread? My view is the human giant offspring in the bible around the time of the flood was not a first time event. I think that there was a prior world to this one, which there likewise was some interference by the rebel angels to make God's prior world one of violence - which God destroyed all life in that world, and started over in Genesis.

Doug

Really this is pure nonsense. The bible isn't focusing on dinosaur redemption. it focuses on the redemption of man. That's the information that's pertinent to us.

Therefore since God states He created all things then we who are of faith accept that through God's revelation to us.

God doesn't take the time to give us the names of all the galaxies either, but they're there.

What God wants us to know we have, and the very fact that there are dinosaur remains tells us God created them.

This kind of "creative explanation" is the very thing that steers unbelievers away from the faith. I'd rather give an honest "I don't know the answer to that" than try and explain something the bible is silent about.

God created the animals, and he didn't take the time to name every species.

deetwang · Mar 18, 2013

“Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee” (Leviticus 19:19 KJV) and “Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds: lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown, and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled. Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together. Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together” (Deuteronomy 22:9-11 KJV).

Living organisms do reproduce after their own kind when left alone, but that is not to say that these organisms cannot be made to not reproduce after their own kind if they are tampered with by genetic engineering. Satan and other fallen angels cannot create matter, they can only manipulate matter.

Right now, there are human/animal hybrids. Although against the laws, this tampering has been going on for 15 years, so they are now reaching breeding age. We know they have cows now that produce human milk...

It is also fact that people have been abducted worldwide, of all different languages and usually live rurally and they all have the same story, that these "aliens" (I believe are fallen angels) abduct them and probe them, they are interested in our reproductive organs. Our "seed" and "eggs" to be specific.

Jesus said the last days would be "As in the days of Noah, so shall the coming of the Son of man be" Matt 24:37 There was violence, and there was mingling of DNA which is happening today. There is a science called "Transhumanism" which has the same goal as the Devil "To be as gods". To evolve into immortality by improving and replacing parts...etc.

BluhdoftheLamb · Mar 18, 2013

How do you know of animal/human hybrids? Transhumanism?

deetwang · Mar 18, 2013

The ability has been there for many years, though it was "forbidden", men ignored the laws and continued anyway as is our nature. So it's hard to find stuff but it's out there if you look. Already we have a child with the DNA of three parents, because the "mother" had damaged mitochondria cells, they used a second woman's cells. So the baby has 3 parents. Here's one of many sites, this shows some of the technologies man is using to improve and extend human life. The goal is immortality.Top Ten Transhumanist Technologies

If you google "transhumanism" you will find out more than I can say on this forum. The Mormons are big backers of this science, they thing we will attain godhood on our own. They can now upload information to your brain and you "know it". Such as how to catch a ball! It's a start. This is forbidden by God and is an abomination.

Now GOLIATH, whose height was 6 cubits, and he had 6 pieces of armour; his spear's head weighed 600 shekels of iron (1 Sam 17:4-7). Giants skeletons that have been discovered have six fingers and six toes. So you have "sixes" all arouond Goliath. 666 is the number of Antichrist, it is the "number of a man". Man created on 6th day....

"The children of Adonikam" who returned from the Captivity (Ezra 2:13) numbered 666. Adonikam means the lord of the enemy. This is suggestive, even though it may be vague.

"...the mysterious number 666...is connected with Goliath. Note the three sixes (a) He was six cubits high (1 Sam 17:4) (b) Six pieces of armour are enumerated--helmet, coat of mail, greaves, target, staff and shield (1 Sam 17:5-7) (c) His spear's head weighed six hundred shekels of iron (1 Sam 17:7)." (The Antichrist, Arthur W. Pink)

hiscosmicgoldfish · Mar 18, 2013

if sons of God dosn't mean angels, but relatives of Seth or something, then why does it say in Job, that the sons of God were gathered before God and Satan was amoung them? and then in Job again, the sons of God sang at the creation.. the relatives of Seth sang at the creation.. makes sense to me, no confusion there.

Douggg · Mar 18, 2013

ebedmelech said:
Really this is pure nonsense. The bible isn't focusing on dinosaur redemption. it focuses on the redemption of man. That's the information that's pertinent to us.

Therefore since God states He created all things then we who are of faith accept that through God's revelation to us.

Well, you got that wrong. You're still my friend though. The bible focuses on the will of God.

From Genesis, prove that there was not a formless mass already existing before God formed this present earth with it's mountains, oceans, river, valleys, plaines.

God doesn't take the time to give us the names of all the galaxies either, but they're there.

irrelavent.

What God wants us to know we have, and the very fact that there are dinosaur remains tells us God created them.

Yes, but there is some mystery surrounding their existance as far as when and what happened to them and why. Who destroyed the dinosaur world, if not God?

This kind of "creative explanation" is the very thing that steers unbelievers away from the faith. I'd rather give an honest "I don't know the answer to that" than try and explain something the bible is silent about.

God created the animals, and he didn't take the time to name every species.

How do you know God didn't take time to name every species - if the very hairs on your head are numbered according to the bible? ??? ???? ????

Doug

ephesians4:2 · Mar 18, 2013

ebedmelech said:
The sons of God are the Godly line of Seth who intermarried with unbelivers.

To say that these were angels violates the fact that each produces after it's own kind. There are no passages clearly saying angels are able to reproduce with humans, therefore I reject anything along those lines.

The Nephilim are just humans tall in stature...and are called "giants", which is bible hyperbole.

Ordinary men (the descendants of Seth) have six fingers and six toes?
2 Samuel 21:20
"In still another battle, which took place at Gath, there was a huge man with six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot--twenty-four in all. He also was descended from Rapha."

ViaCrucis · Mar 18, 2013

Bethwhite said:
Bingo!

Dinosaurs were created by the fallen angels who taught mankind things they weren't given authority to teach. They are a mixture of birds and reptiles- a hybrid, a "chimera". They were destroyed in the flood.

Wow.

I honestly thought I'd heard everything before.

This one hurt my brain a little bit, I gotta be honest.

-CryptoLutheran

Truth7t7 · Mar 18, 2013

ephesians4:2 said:
Genesis 6:1-4
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.There were giants/Nephilim in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

I have my own interpretation on the meaning of these verses. What is everyone else's take on this and the verses found throughout the OT describing the Israelites and David fighting the tribes of giants/Nephilim?

Here are some verses to look up in case you are not familiar with the subject:
Deut 1:28, 2:10-11, 2:20-23, 3:11, 9:2-3
Joshua 11:21-22, 14:12-15, 15:13-14
2 Sam 21:15-22
1 Chron 20:4-8
Numbers 13:28,32-33

The sons of God are humans, decendants of Adam, the false teaching of the Nephilim?

Spiritual fallen angels having intercourse with human women, and bearing offspring would be found in the satanic teachings of paganism!

The giants were literal human beings that slept in large earthly iron beds 13 1/2 feet long and 6 feet wide "HUGE" humans, don't be fooled on a false teaching that the spiritual world could interact with the physical and develop a physical being called the Nephilim, "FAIRY TALE"!

Genesis 6:1-4 (KJV) 1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Numbers 13:33 KJV
And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Deuteronomy 3:11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.

Fallen angels did'nt have sexual intercourse with human females creating Nephilim, a false teaching that belongs in the book of Aesops fables!

Jesus Christ Is The Lord!

Truth7t7

Tellastory · Mar 18, 2013

Bethwhite said:
Guys, you aren't trusting what God is saying. LOOK:

Genesis 6:1-4
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.There were giants/Nephilim in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Read the results of that union: "mighty men" and "men of renown" means mankind.

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

Ask the Lord Jesus Christ why in the two presentations of the Son of God to the Lord that Job was singled out to Satan BOTH times and maybe you will see that it was because Job was one of the sons of God.

Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Leaving God's abode of Heaven was their first estate which is the stated reason why those angels were reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day; not because of mingling with mankind.

Angels actually "fell", procreated with human women. Their children were giants that tormented mankind.

When children are a heritage from the Lord, and scripture cannot be broken, then we can know that fallen angels do not have a chance to change God's word into having the fruit of the womb from the devil.

Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

John 10:35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

Note how Jesus referred to those as called gods were referencing men.

Obviously, angels can take on human form:

Hbr 13:2 Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.

That does not mean that they also have the ability to reproduce in defying God's word in how kinds were to reproduce after their own kind.

1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

And we know that angels are not marrying nor given in marriage which means God would not join any of them, angels nor fallen angels in marriage with daughters of men for these women to be called "wives" to them in the Bible.

Are men marrying men and women marrying women, married in the eyes of God for them to be called husbands and wives to each other in His word? No. They are not. It would be called an abomination.

Then why believe God would call a union between an angel, let along a fallen angel to a woman for her to be called a wife to it in His word?

Answer: He would not. Therefore the sons of God are of the lineage of Seth.

yeshuasavedme · Mar 18, 2013

ebedmelech said:
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God created the animals, and he didn't take the time to name every species.

Adam was given that responsibility, and he did name them.
The Creator gave the name to Adam, both male and female named Adam, but to Adam he gave the job of naming them, and they all bear the names today that Adam gave them in the original language, with the Edenic root etymons still the foundation for every name of every "kind" that Adam was given dominion over, and named

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Edenics, the Semitic origin of English words
[FONT=Tempus Sans, Tempus Sans Serif, Tempus Sans ITC][SIZE=+2]Animal Names from Eden
[SIZE=+1]By Isaac Mozeson[/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, Georgia] "..And Adam called out names to for all the beasts, for the birds of the sky and all the living things of the field..." Genesis 2:20

The bible places a profound emphasis on the naming of every person, place or thing. What's in a name? Everything, apparently. Semites are named for the son of Noah named SHeM (name). The name is the essence of the thing, its SHAY-Ma or reputation. Commentaries have much to say about each unknown person in a list of begats and begots or each unknown, one cametotown on the journey to somewhere else. Reputation -- or name -is something to live for or die for to a Semite. No less than the supreme deity is referred to by the Jews as HaShem, The Name. The name of an animal is therefore far more than an echoic device for identification. If the chinese call a cat something like a meow (it sounds much like it) and if we've named a bird a Chickadee (after its call) --these are sure signs that the creature was not named at Eden by our first human ancestors.

None of the animals are so specialized that a sub-species is named in the bible. All primordial animal names are generic: Bird or Raven, and even the "children of the raven" (Psalms ) --but never Crow, Blackbird or Grackle. Gen 2:19-20 Seals in Middle East? SEECATCH. Otherwise, general terms like /TSAKHAN so the Algonquin Indians could name their stinker (the skunk).

"Who Named the Animals?" Where did animal names come from? According to the bow-wow theory, all words are echoic, some grunting caveman's attempt to capture the essence of a thing by it's sound. Among the many thousands of animal names, however, only a few creatures like the chickadee have an echoic name. Even in Chinese, where the cat word sounds like "meow meow," echoic names are the exception. A larger set of animal names are clearly descriptive, like the grasshopper or hippopotamus (Greek for river horse). Most of the older, more generic animal names have unknown origins, suggesting that the bow-wow theory is for the dogs. Now the world's oldest etymological text is the last place that an academic would look, but Genesis 2:20 relates that "Adam called out names for all the beasts, for the birds of the sky and all the living things of the field..." Let us see if Biblical Hebrew offers any insights into animal names of unknown origin and meaning.

The carrion-eating BUZZARD is traced only as far back as Old French busart, a word without apparent cognate or meaning. In Hebrew, BuZ means a hawk and BeeZa spoils (of war). BoZeZ would mean the plunderer or looter, while a BuZiaR is a falconer. Unlike the EAGLE (from oKHeL, to eat or destroy), the BUZZARD is merely a scavenger who emBeZZles WaSte or BooTy. (These BZ, BT and W-ST words are related to our Bet-Zayin family of words of plunder).

The Kiowa plains Indians named this same bird a bosen for good reason. If you think the GIRAFFE is a strange animal, check out its wierd (given) etymology. French girafe and Italian giraffa is aid to be a corruption of Arabic zirafah, although the term is meaningless is Arabic too and a G from a Z corruption is unnatural.. Using Emetology instead of etymology, one could suppose that zirafah is a common jumble (called metathesis in linguistics and relat! ed to the neurological disorder called dyslexia) of Hebrew [T]ZaVaR (neck). While Adam or any ancient human would do well to call the GIRAFFE a "neck" creature, the Hebrew term stresses the throat or front of the neck rather than the GIRAFFE's prominent back or scruff of the neck. The Hebrew for this part of the anatomy is OReF, more correctly pronounced by Sephardim as KHoReF or GHoReF. Now we've got the perfect sound and sense for GIRAFFE, since GHoReF means the scruff of the neck. Like SCARF, SCRUF is a neck word whose initial S is non-historic.

Any word with more than 3 root letters in Hebrew or any language is carrying extra baggage around the root or roots. These CRF neck words come from Biblical Hebrew KHoReF (neck) just like the CRAVat (necktie). A related Gimel-Resh term, GaRoN (throat, neck) gives us other long-necked animals, like the CRANE, EGRET and HERON, along with neckwear like the GORGEOUS GORGET, the throaty GROAN of a CROONer and the GARGLING of a GOURMET GARGOYLE.

Returning to animals and addressing the interchangeable C/G/H/K sounds above, both the Hebrew Ayin and the Gimel are gutturals that can harden to make the hard C of Latin corvus (raven) and French corbeau (raven) or soften to make the soft H of Anglo-Saxon hraefn (raven). Do these disparate Indo-European cousins meet when linked to a common Semitic ancestor? The Hebrew raven is an OReV or KHoReBH (Ayin-Resh-Bet). Etymologists don't have to dig far to get true word origins, but they refuse to consider Hebrew. The prolific digger among American rodents (and net surfers) is the GOPHER. The given guess in our dictionaries is an attribution to French gaufre (a honeycomb or waffle). Those who dig for a true source will consider Hebrew KHoPHeR (digger).

Now a HORSE is a horse of course, and of course there is no known meaning for this term. It doesn't relate to the German horse (Pferd, a knock-off of the Hebrew PHeReD or mule) or the Latin equs (an echo of Hebrew AQeV--heel or HooF). The mystery unraveled when I noticed the similarity of HORSE and HEARSE (a funeral wagon named for an elaborate plow). Unlike their Continental forbears, the British plowed with horses instead of oxen. The horse was the plower, and plower in Hebrew is HoReS[H]. The Americans continued the awkward tradition of plowing with a horse, which needs blinders and constant attention. The God-given plowing animal is clearly the SHoRe (ox), witch innately knows how to plow a SHuRa [Ya]SHaR (straight row or SuRe SeRies). True, the ox doesn't sound like the ShoRe at all, but Aramaic constantly corrupted the Hebrew Shin to a T, later giving us the Latin taurus (bull) and Spanish toro. Reject the bull and discover a world of meaning-- with the majesty and science of! Hebrew.
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deetwang · Mar 18, 2013

When homosexuals get married, they use a sperm donor if it's two women, and they hire a surrogate if men. Infertile couples now can have test tube created embryos implanted in the womb and there are many test tube babies now. There are abortions if the parents don't like the sex of the baby. So people obviously will use whatever means is available to have the maximum amount of control over their offspring.

Now we already have well known genetic splicing of animals going on, such as the "spider goats" that we've spliced spider DNA in with the goat DNA, producing chimera goats that produce "milk" that has the material spiders make webs with, and we use that material for our military's bullet proof vests. We already have cows that produce human milk, they are part human! We already are splicing salmon together with flounder to produce salmon 3 times the normal size of salmon, to meet the needs and to create more profit for the growers.

They say none can get out, but if just one gets out, within 30 years all salmon will have some flounder DNA. Just like Monsanto's GMO corn was spliced to resist Monsanto's "Roundup", now the corn creates pesticide, and if you eat it, your intestines are also producing pesticides. It has created "super worms" that are 5 times the size of regular root worms....

Do not tell me that mankind is doing all this, and not using this technology to "improve" humans.

deetwang · Mar 18, 2013

God certainly does have names for the animals, just as He has names for us, but allows our parents to give us a name too. All the stars have names! God gave Adam dominion over the earth, so with that came the honor of naming the animals.

Truth7t7 · Mar 18, 2013

Tellastory said:
The "sons of God" was a reference for Israel's family tree in the Bible.

Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Jesus reproves any notion that God would join angels, let alone fallen angels in a marriage.

Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

One of the most often overlooked point in scripture is the fact that these sons of God were taking these women as wives unto them.

The sons of God would have to be of the godly line of Seth if God in His words were to join these women to be called wives to them in the Bible.

Genesis 6:1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

The Lord was striving with man, not fallen angels, and the result was that He had lessened their days to 120 years.

Remember the genealogy of how long these saints leading up to Noah had lived? This was God punishing the godly line of Seth that married outside of that lineage, otherwise, they would have lived as long as Noah.

The reason God flooded the earth was because of this reason along and not because of some diabolical plot to pollute the bloodline to prevent Christ from being born.

Genesis 6:5And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

Again, it was sinful man having wicked imaginations from his youth that grieved and provoked our God.

Genesis 8:20 And Noah builded an altar unto the Lord; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar. 21 And the Lord smelled a sweet savour; and the Lord said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done. 22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

That's two accounts for the real reason God had flooded the earth.

If you consider how Israel was not to marry outside of the nation of Israel, then you can see why the sober lesson for the cause of the flood was to be taken to heart.

The word "ben" in Hebrews means builder of the family line from which "sons" was translated from.

Believers in Jesus Christ are now called sons of God by the seed of Christ.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

There was necessity to succinctly differentiate from the bloodline because Israel was considered the sons of God formerly as found in the Book of Job when twice at a gathering when Satan was there, Job was picked out from among the sons of God as they were presenting themselves to the Lord.

But getting back to what is relevant to us today:

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

God created kinds to reproduce after their own kind. That includes mankind.

Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

He can make the woman barren or bear children as all the fruit of the womb is from the Lord.

That means fallen angels did not have a chnace in the first place to pollute the bloodline.

What causes giants? Maybe that is the price that is paid when marrying outside the godly line of Seth that resulted in lessening their days to 120 years. Obviously, they were not to be envied as God is no respector of persons.

So that is the talent the Lord would have me share, but only He can enable anyone to receive this as truth.

I agree good post, the whole teaching is from the firey pit, hard to believe any person would even believe or promote such falsehood. Spiritual angels having sexual intercourse with human females and producing physical humans is a Joke, Alice in wonderland has more validity!

Jesus Christ Is The Lord!

Truth7t7

Truth7t7 · Mar 18, 2013

ebedmelech said:
The sons of God are the Godly line of Seth who intermarried with unbelivers.

To say that these were angels violates the fact that each produces after it's own kind. There are no passages clearly saying angels are able to reproduce with humans, therefore I reject anything along those lines.

The Nephilim are just humans tall in stature...and are called "giants", which is bible hyperbole.

I agree, good post!

Jesus Christ Is The Lord!

Truth7t7

deetwang · Mar 18, 2013

Sorry, Truth. Wrong again. Before the flood, man lived to a very ripe age. The environment was different, it never rained before the flood, but rather a mist covered the earth every morning. This apparently allowed men to live to almost 1,000 years of age.
Adam died at 930 yrs old (Genesis 5:5) and Methuselah died at 969 yrs old (Genesis 5:27). People sometimes say when Adam and Eve disobeyed God, that God didn't follow through on the curse "In that day you shall surely die" (Genesis 2:17). But as there is always a "double witness" in the word for any doctrine, so it is with this one.

2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

Psalm 90:4 " A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night."

So man in fact did die within "one day" in the Lord's time.

Genesis 6: 3 Then the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.”

This statement follows God's utter disgust at what had happened earlier in same chapter...Sons of God, Daughters of Men.

Truth7t7 · Mar 18, 2013

ebedmelech said:
Look at the Genesis 6 account:
Genesis 6:1, 2
Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them,
2that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose.

That is the act...and God is displeased with it...so what does He say about it?...

Genesis 6:3:
3 Then the Lord said, My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.

If the sons of God are angels, why would God say "my Spirit will not strive with man," if these were angels?

Also your Jude passage doesn't make you point either, because it says these angels left their "first estate" (KJV). The word "estate" means" "beginning origin" ...here the link to that meaning:
Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon

Their "estate" is their original position given them by God. These would be those that rebelled with Satan. They left the position God gave them to rebel against God. They are now reserved for judgment, as Jude says.

You can't make your case with that either because it says nothing of going into women having children.

So...I would ask you to "think", because neither verse makes your case.

I agree good post

I'm smiling as I'm reading this, what will they claim next?

Jerry Springer and the test of who's the father of the child, as the tabloid world awaits the decision?

Results: Its neither of yours, the test has proven it was a fallen angel?

"SAD"!

Jesus Christ Is The Lord!

Truth7t7

Truth7t7 · Mar 18, 2013

deetwang said:
Sorry, Truth. Wrong again. Before the flood, man lived to a very ripe age. The environment was different, it never rained before the flood, but rather a mist covered the earth every morning. This apparently allowed men to live to almost 1,000 years of age.
Adam died at 930 yrs old (Genesis 5:5) and Methuselah died at 969 yrs old (Genesis 5:27). People sometimes say when Adam and Eve disobeyed God, that God didn't follow through on the curse "In that day you shall surely die" (Genesis 2:17). But as there is always a "double witness" in the word for any doctrine, so it is with this one.

2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

Psalm 90:4 " A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night."

So man in fact did die within "one day" in the Lord's time.

Genesis 6: 3 Then the LORD said, My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.

This statement follows God's utter disgust at what had happened earlier in same chapter...Sons of God, Daughters of Men.

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Zanting · Mar 18, 2013

So if the Sons of God are from the lineage of Adam...where did the sons of man come from?

deetwang · Mar 18, 2013

I don't know how to do that. Please inform me.
So you are saying that one third (that's what most biblical scholars believe) of the angels rebelled with Satan, and most of 'em clearly are still here and there, all over the place, but God "selected" just some of them to put in everlasting chains until the judgement without these "chained" ones doing anything "really horrible" to deserve that? Ok then, tell me what these selected few angels did that all the other innumerable angels that are still here, were here when Jesus cast 1,000 of 'em out of the demon possessed guy and into a bunch of pigs???

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