Gays!!!

[Tenebrae]

What if the person of one's choosing is 4 years old or one's sibling or one's mom?

So now we get to the gays are the same as pedophiles arguement. Activities between consenting adults are not the same as an adult comitting an illegal act with a child no matter how much spin you want to put on it

 

[Tenebrae]

Not really, no... a 4-year-old child is hardly in any position to give informed , uncoerced consent.

This, incase it was missed.

 

[drstevej]

So now we get to the gays are the same as pedophiles arguement. Activities between consenting adults are not the same as an adult comitting an illegal act with a child no matter how much spin you want to put on it

You do seem to add 2+2 and get a double digit number. You might want to read my posts in context, I think you buzzed right past that.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

So now we get to the gays are the same as pedophiles arguement. Activities between consenting adults are not the same as an adult comitting an illegal act with a child no matter how much spin you want to put on it

Sodomy "used to be" illegal.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Because, kiwi, if LGBT people get to marry people of their choosing, next people will be marrying tuna salad sandwiches and forcing children to participate in Caligula-esque orgies as part of kindergarten.

So the message IS getting through to your community.

At least, that's what I've heard. I got married, and as of yet, the only difference is I get less sleep.

Your husband, he snores does he?

Never mind, I really don't want to know that either.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

Sodomy "used to be" illegal.

There is no justification for making a sex act between consenting adults illegal, talk about puritanical overload.

 

[CaDan]

Sodomy "used to be" illegal.

And generally not enforced except in the case of pederasty.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

If there is no "divine design", then there is no perversion.

Prove to me there is a "divine design" and I will aquiesce.



lulz

BINGO!!!!!!!

It just doesn't get any better than that. Draw 'em out into the open and you get to see them with their masks off.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

BINGO!!!!!!!

It just doesn't get any better than that. Draw 'em out into the open and you get to see them with their masks off.

So asking a question in a logical manner is somehow unmasking someone, what exactly are you talking about?

 

[Polycarp_fan]

So asking a question in a logical manner is somehow unmasking someone, what exactly are you talking about?

This is not a question:

Originally Posted by selfinflikted:

If there is no "divine design", then there is no perversion.
​

 

[OphidiaPhile]

This is not a question:

Originally Posted by selfinflikted:

If there is no "divine design", then there is no perversion.
​

It is a simple statement of personal opinion, how does that in any way correlate to unmasking anything?

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Originally Posted by selfinflikted:

If there is no "divine design", then there is no perversion.​

It is a simple statement of personal opinion, how does that in any way correlate to unmasking anything?

I'm just revelling in the vindication. It'll take me a minute or two to respond to your post.

OK.

I couldn't have fabricated a better statement from the atheist position. Of course, it's the reason I see no need to lie or exaggerate. Sooner or later truth gets realized.

No "divine design" . . . and let the lascivious licentiousness begin unfettered and unabated!!!!!!

No, no, I'm sorry, "perversion."

 

[truthshift]

Originally Posted by selfinflikted:

If there is no "divine design", then there is no perversion.​

I'm just revelling in the vindication. It'll take me a minute or two to respond to your post.

OK.

I couldn't have fabricated a better statement from the atheist position. Of course, it's the reason I see no need to lie or exaggerate. Sooner or later truth gets realized.

No "divine design" . . . and let the lascivious licentiousness begin unfettered and unabated!!!!!!

No, no, I'm sorry, "perversion."

Did you completely forget the part where he said that it's a statement of opinion? Talk about filtering...

 

[Andreusz]

Originally Posted by selfinflikted:

If there is no "divine design", then there is no perversion.
​

I'm just revelling in the vindication. It'll take me a minute or two to respond to your post.

OK.

I couldn't have fabricated a better statement from the atheist position. Of course, it's the reason I see no need to lie or exaggerate. Sooner or later truth gets realized.

No "divine design" . . . and let the lascivious licentiousness begin unfettered and unabated!!!!!!

No, no, I'm sorry, "perversion."

So to put it in straightforward English, instead of triumphant hoots, what you are saying is that people become atheists in order to indulge their perversions?

 

[sidhe]

If there is no "divine design", then there is no perversion. Prove to me there is a "divine design" and I will aquiesce.

Oooh, time to shut down PC_F on this front, too.

I'm a theist. Actually, a polytheist, which means I believe in more deities than PC_F...at least more fun deities. Accordingly, I believe - to some extent - in a "divine design". I believe that design is towards pleasure. Thus, there is perversion, but only in creating intentional suffering (without crossing that boundary into creating pleasure, just for the S/M crowd).

In other words, PC_F is engaging in perversion by gleefully and willfully causing suffering.

Now, since PC_F is big on the Tyranny of the Majority being fair, as I have multiple deities vs. his singular, we win. Teh Ghey is okay.

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*patiently awaits the 'do what thou wilteth' nonsense*

 

[drstevej]

So to put it in straightforward English, instead of triumphant hoots, what you are saying is that people become atheists in order to indulge their perversions?

That's precisely what Paul says in Romans 1:27-28

27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,

 

[Andreusz]

^ Well, no, if you read the text. What it says is that they ceased to acknowledge God, and then he made them into perverts. That is not the same thing at all.

Anyway, why should I consider the opinion of a demented, semi-educated first-century rabbi on any subject whatsoever? (Assuming that he actually wrote the book attributed to him, and as I understand it, not one of the Pauline epistles can be attributed to pauline authorship with 100% conviction.)

 

[OphidiaPhile]

That's precisely what Paul says in Romans 1:27-28

27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,

By the age of 10 I already knew I was an atheist so I had made a decision to be a perverted sexaholic even though I had never had sex, and since I am and always have been straight it would seem that the text is not at all accurate.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

^ Well, no, if you read the text. What it says is that they ceased to acknowledge God, and then he made them into perverts. That is not the same thing at all.

Anyway, why should I consider the opinion of a demented, semi-educated first-century rabbi on any subject whatsoever?

(Assuming that he actually wrote the book attributed to him, and as I understand it, not one of the Pauline epistles can be attributed to pauline authorship with 100% conviction.)

Welllll, whomever wrote the book those many centuries ago, it sure looks like they knew aaallllllllllll about STD's. (With no microscope yet.)

Because of this,

(And obviously you know the list.)

God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

The CDC couldn't arue with that incredibly accurate statement.

Oh, CDC stands for: Centers for Disease Control.

Not bad for a demented, semi-educated, first-century rabbi.

When the message hits home, attack the messenger. Sounds very familiar. Very, very familiar. I wonder how Jerry Falwell and Paul the first-century rabbi are getting along in heaven? Wait, I don't wonder at all. Being right in heaven is probably not of importance anymore. I mean, everyone knows who the champions of the Super Bowl are. No need to ask the winners.



Hey, love the math-signature Andy.

Hmmmmmmmmm,

I wonder where the inspiration came from?

Heh, not really.

I've always been comfortable with follow the leader from the view looking back over my shoulder.

This is fun isn't it?





-----A Christian should be humble right? Isn't that what those non Christians always say?

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Did you completely forget the part where he said that it's a statement of opinion? Talk about filtering...

You mean this?

Originally Posted by selfinflikted:

If there is no "divine design", then there is no perversion.​

​

Of course it is.

Isn't everything we write that isn't a reference to someone elses work?