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I have answered this many times:

What have you done to help the poor?
What have you done to help the homeless?
What have you done to reduce violent crime?
What have you done to cure cancer?
What have you done to cure AIDS?
What have you done to give homes to orphans?
What have you done to reduce the number of wars?

Follow the Apostolic teachings.

With the exception of cancer, though, one would have to say: Follow the Apostolic teachings BY being an honest reasearcher. And AIDS is 100% PREVENTABLE, so no need for a cure, by "Following the Apostolic teachings."

Everything mentioned above was handled by the Apostles.

Duh.

I'm sure Einstein used that word in the same way.

That's all you guys got?
Are you serious, AIDS is not a gay mans disease (how dare you for even alluding that as if it is a justifiable punishment) it is a disease of humanity. It can be caught from blood transfusions, heterosexual oral, vaginal and anal sex, the sharing of needles and of course gay sex. It most certainly does deserve a cure just as any other disease that affects humanity does.
 
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Are you serious, AIDS is not a gay mans disease (how dare you for even alluding that as if it is a justifiable punishment) it is a disease of humanity. It can be caught from blood transfusions, heterosexual oral, vaginal and anal sex, the sharing of needles and of course gay sex. It most certainly does deserve a cure just as any other disease that affects humanity does.

He actually scares me a little bit :o
 
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Are you serious, AIDS is not a gay mans disease (how dare you for even alluding that as if it is a justifiable punishment) it is a disease of humanity. It can be caught from blood transfusions, heterosexual oral, vaginal and anal sex, the sharing of needles and of course gay sex. It most certainly does deserve a cure just as any other disease that affects humanity does.

Don't forget that it can be transmitted from a pregnant woman to her foetus, and also through breastfeeding.
 
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Are you serious, AIDS is not a gay mans disease (how dare you for even alluding that as if it is a justifiable punishment) it is a disease of humanity. It can be caught from blood transfusions, heterosexual oral, vaginal and anal sex, the sharing of needles and of course gay sex. It most certainly does deserve a cure just as any other disease that affects humanity does.

Oh looky, I have an opponent.

"It can be caught from blood transfusions, heterosexual oral, vaginal and anal sex, the sharing of needles and of course gay sex."

Which proves my point that AIDS is 100% preventable.

No "CURE" is needed, except seeing morality as the cure. That is what certainly needs to be SEEN as a "cure."

Thanks Ophi. It's usually not that easy.
 
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Oh looky, I have an opponent.

"It can be caught from blood transfusions, heterosexual oral, vaginal and anal sex, the sharing of needles and of course gay sex."

Which proves my point that AIDS is 100% preventable.

No "CURE" is needed, except seeing morality as the cure. That is what certainly needs to be SEEN as a "cure."

Thanks Ophi. It's usually not that easy.

Yes a cure is needed so we do no have more good innocent people dying for no good reason, I seriously get the impression that it is justifiable in your eyes as some punishment for sins committed. That is reprehensible, disgusting and downright cruel, shame on you.
 
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Oh looky, I have an opponent.

"It can be caught from blood transfusions, heterosexual oral, vaginal and anal sex, the sharing of needles and of course gay sex."

Which proves my point that AIDS is 100% preventable.

No "CURE" is needed, except seeing morality as the cure. That is what certainly needs to be SEEN as a "cure."

Thanks Ophi. It's usually not that easy.
Hey, do children must pay for their parent "immorality" too ? There are high risks of being infected if your mother is HIV+
 
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Hey, do children must pay for their parent "immorality" too ? There are high risks of being infected if your mother is HIV+

The "blame" for that infected mother and child is on the people that proclaim that condom morality is a moral concept at all. Don't blame God for the choices of people. That child is innocent and the mother may be as well, but the "cause" of their affliction is a guilty person.

Ask the CDC. Leave the Bible out of it.
 
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The "blame" for that infected mother and child is on the people that proclaim that condom morality is a moral concept at all. Don't blame God for the choices of people. That child is innocent and the mother may be as well, but the "cause" of their affliction is a guilty person.

Ask the CDC. Leave the Bible out of it.
That's what I want you to do !
 
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That's what I want you to do !

They put the "blame" firmly on the licentious. They search for the guilty and when found, demand they change their ways. By law if necessary. I have much experience with these CDC people. In my line of work over the past two-decades working with teens, I know exactly who and what is to blame. The guilty are onbvous.

Look Mom, no Bible.

And just as much guilt and justice.

If not more.
 
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They put the "blame" firmly on the licentious. They search for the guilty and when found, demand they change their ways. By law if necessary. I have much experience with these CDC people. In my line of work over the past two-decades working with teens, I know exactly who and what is to blame. The guilty are onbvous.

Look Mom, no Bible.

And just as much guilt and justice.

If not more.

Moral standards change as society changes. You have a 2000 plus year old book that structures your reasoning for you. Who are you to say who is guilty and guilty of what? What is justice in your eyes?

How can you justifiably say that children born from a mother with HIV are deserving of that?

How can you justifiably say that this is a disease that does not require a cure?
 
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Besides making the point that homosexuality is only one of a lot of issues that need to be dealt with in the world, and focusing only on this one is irresponsible, I also like another thing about this thread: the title;

GAYS!!!!!

Among a lot of accusatory threads, Baiting threads, negative threads, there is one that says, "GAYS!!!!!" like someone who hasn't seen you for a long time and then says,
"BEANIEBOOOOOOOY!!!!!!!

It's like being greeted every time I see it.
 
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Moral standards change as society changes. You have a 2000 plus year old book that structures your reasoning for you. Who are you to say who is guilty and guilty of what? What is justice in your eyes?

How can you justifiably say that children born from a mother with HIV are deserving of that?

How can you justifiably say that this is a disease that does not require a cure?
He believes that his morality is identical to God's morality. That's why he feels justified in condemning them: his authority is the Creator himself.
 
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Besides making the point that homosexuality is only one of a lot of issues that need to be dealt with in the world, and focusing only on this one is irresponsible, I also like another thing about this thread: the title;

GAYS!!!!!

Among a lot of accusatory threads, Baiting threads, negative threads, there is one that says, "GAYS!!!!!" like someone who hasn't seen you for a long time and then says,
"BEANIEBOOOOOOOY!!!!!!!

It's like being greeted every time I see it.

Sarcasm can be difficult to convey in text.
 
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