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More like, complimentary to the evolutionist drivel creationists usually hear, evolutionists are not automatically impressed by degrees.So, contrary to the creationist drivel we usually hear, evolutionists are not automatically impressed by degrees.
Oh, I think Internet scientists were here long before I showed up.You really think it takes an "expert" to recognize your drivel as drivel?
You have far too high an opinion of yourself, AV -- you actually think you're fooling people.
More like, complimentary to the evolutionist drivel creationists usually hear, evolutionists are not automatically impressed by degrees.
(It won't stop them from asking though. They need something to ridicule.)
Oh, I think Internet scientists were here long before I showed up.
And MR. Hovind should not have passed with that paper. It does not meet the requirements for a bachelor's, much much less a phd.We had a foreign exchange student from China. He had the best test results for Physics in the whole school but his English scores were not good. He wanted to get into one of the top 20 universities. Needless to say he was not accepted. So he got into a school that was one of the top 20%. Big difference between top 20 percent and top 20.
For me I could say your worthless because you did not graduate from Harvard or MIT. You can not cut the cheese and get into a real school. Yet there are universities that take 100% of the people that apply. Even though they only manage to graduate 50% of them.
For me you need to quit sticking your nose up in the air at the people that are beneath your supposed level. Because there are a LOT of people that went to a better school then you. A school you did not even stand a chance of getting into. So you have no right to be critical of people who attend a school that is beneath your so called standards.
Of course if you want to hire him for a job, then you have every right to look at the school he attended. But far to often they just accept that you say you have a college degree and let it go at that.
Something is wrong somewhere because this country is just not what it was even 20 years ago. I drive by the university and I see people drinking and having a party and wonder if they ever have time to study at all. I see jobs going overseas at a unprecedented rate. So if the academic standards are so high, then why is this country going to hell in handbasket so quick? Perhaps your straining out the gnats and swallowing the camel.
That's what phds do. They are usually not broad, but narrow. Same with MS.Dr Dino was a High School Science teacher. That takes more then a two year degree. Yet how many churches have pastors with two year degrees? I do not hear you complaining about them. Also how many people that have real Phd's know nothing outside of their area of study. I had a brother in law that had a Phd in computers. Yet all he knew was about Cisco. He did not know anything else. I suppose if you need a specialist on Cisco wonderful. But it would be nice if in all those years of education he had learned a little bit of something.
She was just hired. She has not lied about her degree of course, that's clear. She has six years of university, as is required to be a priest in the Norwegian State Church. At the theological faculty in Oslo.So I assume your pastor has the equivalent of a real Phd? Just where did he graduate from and what are his qualifications?
Everyone in my family is either a teacher, phd or md. So I do not have that much of a regard for them. Actually both of my brothers are directors. If they were going to hire someone I am sure they would look at where they got their degree from. But where Dr Dino was preaching and teaching they were doing good to get someone in there that even had a college degree. Usually people at those churches have nothing or a two year associate degree.
He's not trying to pass himself off as a real doctor, no. Hovind, on the other hand, pretends that he's an actual doctor with actual qualifications - which he doesn't.
Which of the two would you allow to operate on you?Let me put it this way:
Which of the two would you allow to operate on you if you had a life threatening accident like a bullet in your belly?
Ok, so in your opinion he does not have a Phd. What is your point, what difference does it make? It is not like he is out looking for a real job. He is an evangelist they are doing good if they have a high school degree a lot of the time.And MR. Hovind should not have passed with that paper. It does not meet the requirements for a bachelor's, much much less a phd.
Fundamentalist Christians will stoop to nothing in order to preserve their warped beliefs. They even defend known criminals and fraudsters simply because they fear that by condemning them they are in fact condemning their beliefs. This is childish and irresponsible behaviour.
So you also agree to kill a disobedient child?Ok, so in your opinion he does not have a Phd. What is your point, what difference does it make? It is not like he is out looking for a real job. He is an evangelist they are doing good if they have a high school degree a lot of the time.
You are the one in error if you have a female priest in your church. You are without a doubt having to swallow a camel. The Bible clearly teaches that a man is to pastor a church, not a women.
1 Tim 2 12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
My problem is that he's a fraud, Jazer. The bible is quite clear on lying and baring false witness. It's more than frowned upon. I could make a list of his sins on this area if you want, with bible verses. But I expect a prison sentence is a decent point in this case? Besides, I would argue that Mr. Hovind is only an evangelist in his own eyes. He preaches creationism, not christianity. And what he preaches he does not understand. He tries to tie communism to evolution for crying out loud. A crazy stretch by any measure. And it's not the only stretch either. He tried to justify fraud and theft with the bible. Very very poorly done, at that. And no matter what a person claims to be, we are to judge a tree by it's fruits you know. Hence a man by his actions. Does Hovind's actions (Lying, cheating, stealing) match those of a good Christian man? No.Ok, so in your opinion he does not have a Phd. What is your point, what difference does it make? It is not like he is out looking for a real job. He is an evangelist they are doing good if they have a high school degree a lot of the time.
Waitasecond... I am the one in error on my analysis of Mister Hovind's fraudulent nature as evidenced both by his incarceration and his fake degree because my church has a female priest?You are the one in error if you have a female priest in your church. You are without a doubt having to swallow a camel. The Bible clearly teaches that a man is to pastor a church, not a women.
His PhD is no more valid than one scribbled in crayon by my little sisteraccording to this link he received a PHD, now if he would just pay His taxes ....
Dr. Kent Hovind | Creation Science Evangelism - Creation, Apologetics, Evangelism
Do you have any evidence that 'fundamentalist atheists' do this? What on Earth is a 'fundamentalist atheist'? I'm an atheist (though I have no idea whether I qualify as a fundamentalist or not; do I have to incite suicide bombings first?), and I will defend 'porno mongers' and homosexuals, inasmuch as there is nothing inherently immoral about either. As for criminals, depending on what they are accused of, I will also defend them: someone imprisoned for smoking a bit of weed is not, in my opinion, a real criminal worthy of imprisonment.Fundamental Atheists will stoop to nothing in order to preserve their warped beliefs. They even defend known criminals, porno mongers & homosexuals simply because they fear that by condemning them they are in fact condemning their beliefs. This is childish and irresponsible behaviour.
You know what else Hovind is?Hovind is a criminal and is in jail.
Looks like you're outvoted here, friend.Jazer, this is really amusing, but please stop now. This is the science forum and we aren't really interested in your religious and political views. At all.
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