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Lignoba said:Look at this website and tell me again what never changes...
http://www.av1611.org/biblecom.html
totally agreeing with you there broJohnR7 said:Translations change, because the English language changes. But the Bible remains consistant and unchanged from the beginning.
JohnR7 said:Translations change, because the English language changes. But the Bible remains consistant and unchanged from the beginning.
Lignoba said:How could it remain unchanged when bibles were being translated from other english bibles. Either they are not the same, or the language is different and cannot be interpreted using modern language and the meaning is not the same.
Lignoba said:How could it remain unchanged when bibles were being translated from other english bibles.
JohnR7 said:The origional language has not changed. In fact the Hebrew section of the Bible only uses 5000 words. The Greek is a lot more exacting of a language. It was a military language used to conquer the world. For example in the Greek there are over 32 words that are translated into the English word: "GO". go up, go down, go around, go though, go over, go under and so on.
We know that the Hebrew Bible has not changed because they found the dead sea scrolls from over 2500 years ago, so they can verify that it has not changed. The Hebrew scribes were very exacting not to make errors or changes in the sacred scriptures.
So what does it say about dinosaurs, and can whatever it talks about be positively identified as dinosaurs?lightencandle said:But the bible doesn't say that dinosaures lived with man during the times the books were written.
Lignoba said:Man is fallible, and Bible translations were carried out by man.
faster_jackrabbit said:So what does it say about dinosaurs, and can whatever it talks about be positively identified as dinosaurs?
JohnR7 said:Fallen man is fallible, that is why we must be born again to become a child of God.
Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
The Bible would not tell us to be "perfect" if we were not able to be perfect. Although the meaning of the word perfect in the Bible maybe different from the meaning that you use. In the Bible it means to be whole, compleat and mature like a flower in full bloom. Or like a tree that is producing it's fruit in due season.
What do you consider the beginning? Canonization? Which canonization?JohnR7 said:Translations change, because the English language changes. But the Bible remains consistant and unchanged from the beginning.
Lignoba said:Hebrew scribes are men and are open to temptation. What if one of them changed it for his own twisted goals?
JohnR7 said:The dead sea scrolls testify to the consistancy of the Hebrew scriptures. (The Ancient Library of Qumran)
Moses gave us God's whole plan of salvation. Everything in the Bible can be found in the first five books of the Bible. In some cases Moses may have only given us a sentance or two and later on there will be two or three chapters written on the subject.
The point is there are many, many checks and balances to verify the accuracy of the word of God. Generation after generation have found the Bible to be true and testify to the truthfullness of scripture.
Yeah, if. Big assumption.lightencandle said:Does it matter?
Truth cannot change.
If the Bible contains truth, than no matter how many times it is retranslated, the truth remains the same.
JohnR7 said:snip snip to address a single point.
We know that the Hebrew Bible has not changed because they found the dead sea scrolls from over 2500 years ago, so they can verify that it has not changed. The Hebrew scribes were very exacting not to make errors or changes in the sacred scriptures.
faster_jackrabbit said:What do you consider the beginning? Canonization? Which canonization?
JohnR7 said:Fallen man is fallible, that is why we must be born again to become a child of God.
Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
The Bible would not tell us to be "perfect" if we were not able to be perfect. Although the meaning of the word perfect in the Bible maybe different from the meaning that you use. In the Bible it means to be whole, compleat and mature like a flower in full bloom. Or like a tree that is producing it's fruit in due season.
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