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[lightencandle]

What is some peoples problems? Why are Christians getting so riled up about the evoltion debate? Beats me. Does evolution disprove the Bible? No.... Does it replace God? No... It seems that many Christians can't believe anything science says, because of course science and Christianity are complete opposits. WRONG! Science is one of the greatest gifts God has give humanity, right up there with the Arts, and I would even go so far as to say that science and religion should go hand in hand. Of course, science, like anything, including the Bible can be misinterpreted, or misused, and they both have. But do we disregard the Bible just because it has been used to justify murder? Of course not. Wake up yon people, wake up.

 

[kingzjewel]

What is some peoples problems? Why are Christians getting so riled up about the evoltion debate? Beats me. Does evolution disprove the Bible? No.... Does it replace God? No... It seems that many Christians can't believe anything science says, because of course science and Christianity are complete opposits. WRONG! Science is one of the greatest gifts God has give humanity, right up there with the Arts, and I would even go so far as to say that science and religion should go hand in hand. Of course, science, like anything, including the Bible can be misinterpreted, or misused, and they both have. But do we disregard the Bible just because it has been used to justify murder? Of course not. Wake up yon people, wake up.

but dont you think that science is only leading us to another tower of babel? scientists are going way too far in trying to create and control life. next thing you know they will reactivate dinosaurs and we will end up in jurassic park getting eaten by tyrannosaurs and such! as far as the bible, i never thought that it disproved the bible. everything is science is a THEORY not a fact. not threatening me at all Theories forever change. The Word of God does not.

 

[lightencandle]

but dont you think that science is only leading us to another tower of babel? scientists are going way too far in trying to create and control life. next thing you know they will reactivate dinosaurs and we will end up in jurassic park getting eaten by tyrannosaurs and such! as far as the bible, i never thought that it disproved the bible. everything is science is a THEORY not a fact. not threatening me at all Theories forever change. The Word of God does not.

Yes darling, some things do not change. However, things grow, and humans interpretations of the Bible (yes.. the Bible) have changed. People are always using certain passages in different ways, it can be applied on many different levels. The same with science.

A tower of Babel? No... Not if science, or the art of knowledge if you will, is a gift from God. Of course there are limits. But this arguement is not about whether science can be used for ill, because i think we all know the answer to that.

 

[kingzjewel]

but you agree that knowledge is a gift from God? with that knowledge the tower of babel was built and God had to step in. they got too wise for their own good. I can see that happening again through science and trying to know how things came about...trying to recreate creation...

 

[lightencandle]

but you agree that knowledge is a gift from God? with that knowledge the tower of babel was built and God had to step in. they got too wise for their own good. I can see that happening again through science and trying to know how things came about...trying to recreate creation...and excuse me but I AM on topic.

But the same can happen with anything, no?

This is not a science debate, and whether you can use it for good or bad, this is an evolution debate.

 

[kingzjewel]

But the same can happen with anything, no?

This is not a science debate, and whether you can use it for good or bad, this is an evolution debate.

How on Earth do you ever expect to talk about evolution WITHOUT talking about science??? Maybe you should rethink the origins of your topic....

 

[lightencandle]

How on Earth do you ever expect to talk about evolution WITHOUT talking about science??? Maybe you should rethink the origins of your topic....

But you are talking about whether science can be used for good or bad. We all know the answer to that. THis forum/thread is discussing whether or not evolution has any validity in the minds of Chistians, why or why not. Is it because theyt can't stand having outside information that isn't in the Bible?

 

[kingzjewel]

If you look around you will see that there are more sources than just the Bible. There are the so-called "lost" books. There are the geological finds in Africa...many many sources outside of the bible..but the central point is that they all reinforce what the bible already says. So does science, in many ways. My point is that science is being used for the sole purpose of trying to devalue christianity or make itself bigger than the Creator. There is no problem with "outside sources". The problem is with discerning what those sources are saying.

 

[lightencandle]

If you look around you will see that there are more sources than just the Bible. There are the so-called "lost" books. There are the geological finds in Africa...many many sources outside of the bible..but the central point is that they all reinforce what the bible already says. So does science, in many ways. My point is that science is being used for the sole purpose of trying to devalue christianity or make itself bigger than the Creator. There is no problem with "outside sources". The problem is with discerning what those sources are saying.

Same thing with the Bible...

I do agree though. Science should be used without opinion sometimes.And then of course, you have the fundementalists at the opposite end who go to lengths, even to make up facts and claim them to be "scientific fact" to disprove evolution. Both the extreemist, antigod/religion/creation scientists and the fundementalist/creationist christians should be ashamed of theirselves.

 

[truth above all else]

What is some peoples problems? Why are Christians getting so riled up about the evoltion debate? Beats me. Crazy people. Does evolution disprove the Bible? No.... Does it replace God? No... It seems that many Christians can't believe anything science says, because of course science and Christianity are complete opposits. WRONG! Science is one of the greatest gifts God has give humanity, right up there with the Arts, and I would even go so far as to say that science and religion should go hand in hand. Of course, science, like anything, including the Bible can be misinterpreted, or misused, and they both have. But do we disregard the Bible just because it has been used to justify murder? Of course not. Wake up yon people, wake up.

good morning thanks for the wake up call,of course evolution doesnt disprove scripture nor can it replace the Divine.Of course science is a divine gift but evolutionary philosophy is not, it is in conflict with Christianity on many levels in fact it teaches the exact opposite of Christian truth.....ie) up from the beasts , in place of, fall from paradise.

 

[lightencandle]

good morning thanks for the wake up call,of course evolution doesnt disprove scripture nor can it replace the Divine.Of course science is a divine gift but evolutionary philosophy is not, it is in conflict with Christianity on many levels in fact it teaches the exact opposite of Christian truth.....ie) up from the beasts , in place of, fall from paradise.

Not really dear. Evolution does not explain the origion of life. The scientific explanation is the change of a species over a period of time. Evolution is not in conflict with Christianity, it is adamant atheistic scientists and fundemental christians who are in conflict.

 

[truth above all else]

Not really dear. Evolution does not explain the origion of life. The scientific explanation is the change of a species over a period of time. Evolution is not in conflict with Christianity, it is adamant atheistic scientists and fundemental christians who are in conflict.

Yes dearest, the scientific explanation preaches descent with modification, such as our alleged neanderthal forefathers. Divine scripture and Holy fathers teach the fall from paradise.These beliefs are mutually exclusive

 

[Valkhorn]

Yes dearest, the scientific explanation preaches descent with modification, such as our alleged neanderthal forefathers. Divine scripture and Holy fathers teach the fall from paradise.These beliefs are mutually exclusive

A) Neandrethals did not evolve into humans, it was a dead branch

B) Are you trying to say that scientific fact and factual evidence and faith must be mutually exclusive? That's what it sounds like to me.

 

[rmwilliamsll]

teach the fall from paradise

fall from innocence
fall from grace
fall from "a place" or from a "state" or from a "relationship"?

 

[truth above all else]

A) Neandrethals did not evolve into humans, it was a dead branch

B) Are you trying to say that scientific fact and factual evidence and faith must be mutually exclusive? That's what it sounds like to me.

irrespective of what it was that evolved to become human, evolutionary philosophy demands that such a transfiguration occurred, hence the conflict between Christian truth and naturally selected thinking


furthermore factual evidence (sic) cannot be in conflict with divine revelation, it is sufficient for you to know that secular knowledge can teach us nothing about Gods revelation that is not contained in that revelation itself

 

[chaoschristian]

irrespective of what it was that evolved to become human, evolutionary philosophy demands that such a transfiguration occurred, hence the conflict between Christian truth and naturally selected thinking


furthermore factual evidence (sic) cannot be in conflict with divine revelation, it is sufficient for you to know that secular knowledge can teach us nothing about Gods revelation that is not contained in that revelation itself

Do you accept Creation itself as a divine, authoritative and truthful revelation of God?

 

[BananaSlug]

but you agree that knowledge is a gift from God? with that knowledge the tower of babel was built and God had to step in. they got too wise for their own good. I can see that happening again through science and trying to know how things came about...trying to recreate creation...

Nope, knowledge is a gift from the serpent.

 

[kingzjewel]

Nope, knowledge is a gift from the serpent.

KNOWLEDGE of the difference between good and evil is from the serpent. KNOWLEDGE of only the good is from God...

 

[chaoschristian]

Nope, knowledge is a gift from the serpent.

Are you suggesting that knowledge through reason and science is the spawn of the Great Deceiver?

What translation are you using that would suggest this?

 

[chaoschristian]

KNOWLEDGE of the difference between good and evil is from the serpent. KNOWLEDGE of only the good is from God...and snippy comments arent necessary.

Nitpick: Knowledge of Good and Evil is from God, He did put the tree there afterall.

That Adam and Eve acted at the behest of the serpent to pursue this knowledge for themselves, against God's will, is the essense of the Fall.