From Roe-Bots to Inflatable IUD in DC: Pro-Abortion Scare Tactics Hit a New Low

[Ted-01]

You brought it up.

Typical left-wing spin on the narrative.

@Chrystal-J didn't "bring up" a 20' IUD ballon at Union Station... just posted it here for our awareness.
It was the woke crowd that brought it up.

 

[comana]

Typical left-wing spin on the narrative.

@Chrystal-J didn't "bring up" a 20' IUD ballon at Union Station... just posted it here for our awareness.
It was the woke crowd that brought it up.

Is it only “ the woke crowd” that benefits from contraception? IUDs are also used by many women for medical reasons and not as strictly a form of birth control. If you only think sex when discussing birth control, that’s on you.

 

[Foamhead]

That's a bogus claim.

Firearms Now No. 1 Cause Of Death For U.S. Children — While Drug Poisoning Enters Top 5

More kids are dying from guns than they are from car accidents or drowning.

www.forbes.com

Gun deaths among U.S. children and teens rose 50% in two years

In 2021, there were 2,590 gun deaths among U.S. children and teens under the age of 18, up from 1,732 in 2019.

www.pewresearch.org

Firearms are the leading cause of death for American children and teens.

everytownresearch.org

Maybe look things up before declaring them false. They provide the data. Have fun.

There is no such thing as a "medically necessary abortion".

Here is where they list all the medical emergencies that require an abortion:

When Is Abortion Considered Medically Necessary?

Mississippi's Gestational Age Act bans all abortions past 15 weeks' gestational age, except "in a medical emergency or in the case of a severe fetal abnormality." Here's what it means for an abortion to be considered medically necessary.

www.health.com

You are not a medical doctor, so maybe stay in your lane.

Are you saying that it is a bad thing for women to become infertile?

Why push for transgenderism then?

I don't even know how to respond to such an asinine comment.

I would protect the lives of women and children - while preserving their rights to life and self-defense.

Given the above, apparently not. I know you likely won't bother to read any of the links because you don't care about facts or expert opinion, but if anyone else is interested there ya go.

 

[Foamhead]

Typical left-wing spin on the narrative.

@Chrystal-J didn't "bring up" a 20' IUD ballon at Union Station... just posted it here for our awareness.
It was the woke crowd that brought it up.

Just so you know it's against the forum rules to goad people with emojis such as smiling or laughing when it's obvious they are serious, as are comments like "typical left wing spin"/"fake news" and similar non-productive comments.

 

[Chrystal-J]

Would you expect pork at a Jewish deli?

Exactly. Catholicism is an easy target. I don't see anyone advocating a Muslim to go against their faith. Catholic hospitals should not have to have anything to do with birth control.

 

[Zaha Torte]

None of that should have given you any idea about what I age I think it appropriate. What an odd conclusion you have drawn.

I don't think so and I feel that the other things you have said since then make me feel as though you are more open to the idea then I initially thought.

You are indeed corrected.

Then I stand corrected.

You can protect you children by giving them the information they need to make their way in the world.

That's a big part of it and I don't understand why you believe I wouldn't want children to be informed.

Do you think they need to know all this gender ideology nonsense in order to be informed?

Or you can keep them from the world.

As long as possible. Let children be children. No need to bring sexuality and politics into the classroom.

I don't really recommend this as an either/or. As any parent knows, it is a delicate balance.

It didn't used to be. But adults keep trying to indoctrinate children earlier and earlier.

Sir, sir? What's 'sex'? What is it I shouldn't be doing? What are these boys going to try to get me to do which I should refuse? How should I refuse? Please, give me some information about what might happen to me.

This is an odd conclusion, and it has no relevance to the topic of LGBT and gender ideology in the classroom.

You think a child would have no sense of personal well-being without an adult authority figure telling them they can be a member of the opposite sex if they wanted to be?

As I said before - you can teach about Christianity without sharing Christianity.

I'll agree with that.

Good. That is the literally the biggest deal. Many gender activists don't agree with us though.

Don't be silly. You aren't saying 'Don't go there because it's dangerous'. It's 'don't do this because it's dangerous'.

Both are true. We need to protect our children from certain places and situations as well as dangerous actions.

We both agree it shouldn't. It's nonsensical to use such an obviously illegal act to promote an argument.

It is what many gender activists are pushing for.

'School staff members have legal obligations to protect students’ privacy. According to the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, “It is difficult to imagine a more private matter than one’s sexuality and a less likely probability that the government would have a legitimate interest in disclosure of sexual identity.” Rights of transgender students and their parents are a challenge for schools, courts

The first case is about an adult - not a child - and the other link is still being debated.

If a parent or guardian bears full responsibility for a child - then they also have full authority over said child.

This push for adults to be able to keep sexual secrets from parents makes me feel like you may be comfortable with children being sexualized.

We found some elements of the assertion true, though some clarifications are needed. Within certain parameters — such as ages 1-18 and 1-19, in the years 2020 and 2021 — gun-related incidents were, in fact, the leading cause of death in children and teens. Are Guns the Leading Cause of Death for Children in the US?

What happens to those numbers after you remove the adults (18-19 year olds) and suicides/accidents?

A ridiculous comment.

Not at all. I cannot think of a single instance when it would be necessary.

 

[Zaha Torte]

They do this already any time they use the prefix Mrs. instead of Miss or mentioning they have a spouse.

The title change is because of the legal contract - it does not describe their sexuality or sexual preferences.

It's only become a talking point now that the wrong type of minorities are also allowed to do the same.

No one should be allowed to sexualize children. Playing the victim card does not change that.

 

[RileyG]

Exactly. Catholicism is an easy target. I don't see anyone advocating a Muslim to go against their faith. Catholic hospitals should not have to have anything to do with birth control.

Well said.

 

[BCP1928]

Exactly. Catholicism is an easy target. I don't see anyone advocating a Muslim to go against their faith. Catholic hospitals should not have to have anything to do with birth control.

How many Muslim hospitals are there in this country?

 

[BCP1928]

The title change is because of the legal contract - it does not describe their sexuality or sexual preferences.

No one should be allowed to sexualize children. Playing the victim card does not change that.

I'm not sure what that means. Children mature sexually just as they do in every other way. It happens gradually over a period of fifteen or so years and there is nothing we can do to stop it. Except maybe by giving puberty blockers, which I don't approve of either. But they do it themselves. All we can do is give (hopefully) useful guidance.

 

[Ted-01]

Is it only “ the woke crowd” that benefits from contraception? IUDs are also used by many women for medical reasons and not as strictly a form of birth control. If you only think sex when discussing birth control, that’s on you.

Not the issue of my post...

 

[Ted-01]

Just so you know it's against the forum rules to goad people with emojis such as smiling or laughing when it's obvious they are serious, as are comments like "typical left wing spin"/"fake news" and similar non-productive comments.

I appreciate you helping with the regular moderators and will try to conduct myself better.

I would like to say I was goading in fun because I thought the poster to who I was commenting to was also goading... in fun... like many others are goading, of course, in fun. I'm sure that all the self-proclaimed atheists that have come to this Christian site have come here to goad in fun... when they're not educating us on reality.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

I never said that it was.

Notice I said "their sexuality" - not sexuality in general.

I don’t think a teacher sharing what their sexuality is is a big deal, especially in the context of sex ed.

I don't believe that either the teachers or students should be talking about their individual sexualities.

I think that is unrealistic and discriminatory. Deciding that the answer is pretending none of these things exist is willful ignorance and sets everybody up for failure.

Just like you can teach what Christianity is without anyone talking about how or why they themselves are Christian or "witnessing" about what they believe.

Christianity doesn’t need to be taught in a public school, actually, but I have no issue with a teacher identifying as a Christian.

A heterosexual teacher can explain heterosexuality without describing himself as such or what sexual acts he likes to participate in or ask students what they like sexually.

What on earth are you talking about? If you think that’s what’s going on in schools or in sex ed, you are grossly misinformed.

This is completely inappropriate.

No adult has the right to share a secret with my child that I do not know about.

First off, that’s not what you asked.

Secondly, your kids teachers are going to be talking about things with them about topics that won’t be shared with you. If that’s a problem for you, you need to homeschool. It is unrealistic to expect that every thought, idea, opinion, and conversation a teacher has with your kid will be shared with you.

And these adults that we entrust with our children are obligated to share everything with the parents.

It’s not, actually.

I am not accusing you of anything - but your response is something a predator would say.

I think your responses are something that controlling and abusive person would say when the threat to their iron grip on their victims is threatened.

If children cannot consent to tattoos - they cannot consent to any of this gender ideology nonsense.

I think people who can’t get abortions because they don’t have uteruses can’t weigh in on abortions. I think people confuse parenting a child with owning a child and forget that the child’s needs are more important than the wants of their parents. I think people who aren’t dealing with the issues related to gender ideology and their own children have no business telling me what I need to do.

Fun game!

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Gender affirming 'care' for children was mentioned in the article.

Yes, I saw that this was a general catch-all of all the topics that get a certain demographic all wound up, but the OP seemed like it was narrowing down the generalized outrage over all the things to specific outrage for just the birth control thing.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Would you expect pork at a Jewish deli?

If they collect pubic funds with the expressed purpose of delivering universally accepted standard of care, yes, I would.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Typical left-wing spin on the narrative.

@Chrystal-J didn't "bring up" a 20' IUD ballon at Union Station... just posted it here for our awareness.
It was the woke crowd that brought it up.

LoL, she didn’t bring it up, she brought it to our awareness and introduced the topic for discussion, which is very different from bringing it up, apparently. LoL

And I’m not “left wing” I’m not sure why you’d say it like it’s an insult, but ok.

 

[RileyG]

If they collect pubic funds with the expressed purpose of delivering universally accepted standard of care, yes, I would.

It’s their institution, and it’s their right to run their hospital as they see fit.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

It’s their institution, and it’s their right to run their hospital as they see fit.

LoL, that’s not how that works.

 

[RileyG]

LoL, that’s not how that works.

Sorry, I’m not interested in your views or have this pro-abortion propaganda forced on me.

Have a nice evening

 

[Bradskii]

Do you think they need to know all this gender ideology nonsense in order to be informed?
As long as possible. Let children be children. No need to bring sexuality and politics into the classroom.

Children should be taught about life in an age appropriate manner. It really is as simple as that

It didn't used to be. But adults keep trying to indoctrinate children earlier and earlier.

Maybe if you cut out using words like 'indoctrinate' you might get people paying more attention to any genuine grievances that you have.

You think a child would have no sense of personal well-being without an adult authority figure telling them they can be a member of the opposite sex if they wanted to be?

If it needs to be explained, in an age appropriate and manner, then it's not a problem. My 10 year old grandson is aware of gender differences because we have a family member who transgendered. There was some initial surprise then an easy acceptance. It really was no big deal.

This push for adults to be able to keep sexual secrets from parents makes me feel like you may be comfortable with children being sexualized.

I really think you should stop jumping to conclusions.

What happens to those numbers after you remove the adults (18-19 year olds) and suicides/accidents?

You've been given a lot of information. Maybe it came as a surprise to you. It might be a good idea to deal with it rather than looking for escape clauses.

Not at all. I cannot think of a single instance when it would be necessary.

You do realise that even in places like Texas abortions are allowed when it's absolutely necessary?

'Following many reports of patients facing denials or delays for medical emergencies in which an abortion is needed, state lawmakers have affirmed protections for medical professionals who exercise “reasonable judgment” to treat ectopic pregnancies and when a patient’s water breaks too early for the fetus to survive outside of the womb.' How new regulations impact abortion and birth control access in Texas