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From Gaza to the Golan Heights in 3 Steps.

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1. The world turns against Israel. (already happening)

2. Israel wins the war against Hamas.

3. God turns Russia away from the Ukraine and brings them (& others) down to the Golan heights and deals with them there.


I give it about 3 months. Any thoughts?

Revision - As things are unfolding I see it will be early 2025.
 
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1. The world turns against Israel. (already happening)
Maybe not the world, but a big part of it, the muslim world as they see Hamas getting defeated.

2. Israel wins the war against Hamas.
Certainly Israel is trying, and militarily, it is no contest.

3. God turns Russia away from the Ukraine and brings them (& others) down to the Golan heights and deals with them there.
Yes, this seems likely. Gog/Magog takes place. But then the question is who will be the prince who shall come,in the aftermath. I am watching Zelensky.

I give it about 3 months. Any thoughts?
I don't know, but it is a very unstable situation. Could be much soon.
 
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1. The world turns against Israel. (already happening)
Yep, agree with this.
3. God turns Russia away from the Ukraine and brings them (& others) down to the Golan heights and deals with them there.
Not right now. You forget Psalms 83. When Gog attacks Israel will be in peace without border walls.
 
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Yep, agree with this.

Not right now. You forget Psalms 83. When Gog attacks Israel will be in peace without border walls.
No, I didn`t forget it. Here is what I see about that war -

THE SIX DAY WAR

Speaking three weeks after the war ended, as he accepted an honorary degree from Hebrew University, Yitzhak Rabin gave his reasoning behind the success of Israel:

Our airmen, who struck the enemies' planes so accurately that no one in the world understands how it was done and people seek technological explanations or secret weapons; our armored troops who beat the enemy even when their equipment was inferior to his; our soldiers in all other branches... who overcame our enemies everywhere, despite the latter's superior numbers and fortifications-all these revealed not only coolness and courage in the battle but...an understanding that only their personal stand against the greatest dangers would achieve victory for their country and for their families, and that if victory was not theirs the alternative was annihilation.[163]

Within six days, Israel had won a decisive land war. Israeli forces had taken control of the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, the West Bank and East Jerusalem from Jordan, and the Golan Heights from Syria.

Psalm 83.

V. 1 - 5
We see the enemies of God & Israel are conspiring together saying `Come let us wipe them out as a nation.`

In 1967 different countries around Israel took counsel together with one accord to destroy Israel from being a nation. For the first time in history these countries forgot their differences. They formed a confederacy to declare a `Jehud` - holy war to wipe the name of Israel from remembrance. These actual words were frequently broadcast over Radio Cairo & published in world newspapers. Unknowingly they were practically quoting directly from prophecy given 25 centuries ago. (Ps. 83: 4)


V. 6 - 8 Even the participants were accurately delineated - under ancient names.


ANCIENT NAME.....................MODERN NAME

Edom, Moab, Ammon................Jordan
Hagarenes, Amalek, Philistines...Egypt
Ishmaelites......................Arabia
Gebal, Tyre......................Lebanon
Assyria..........................Syria, Iraq


V. 9 - 18 And what was the outcome?

`Fill their faces with dishonour,....let them be ashamed & dismayed...let them be humiliated.....` (V. 16 & 17)
Israel AGAINST

OTHERS - Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq & Lebanon, (supported by Algeria, Kuwait, Libya, Morocco, Pakistan, PLO, Sudan, & Tunisia)

Their Strength.

Israel - 264,000 troops, 300 aircraft, 800 tanks.

The Others - 547,000 troops 957 aircraft, 2,504 tanks.



With those numbers and the war over in 6 days I would say the `Others` would be very embarrassed & ashamed. (as scripture tells us)
 
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You all fail to see how it will be the Lord who wins this current battle and all the next ones too.
Isaiah 66:15-17, 2 Peter 3:7, +, plainly state how the Lord will send fire to destroy all of His enemies in the Middle East. The result will be the virtual depopulation of all the holy land. Zephaniah 1:14-18, Ezekiel 21:1-7, 30:1-5, Jeremiah 10:18, Romans 1:18, +

Jeremiah 9:10-11 & 21-22, tell us how the holy Land will be scorched and untrodden, corpses everywhere.
Isaiah 35:1-10 shows how the Land will be regenerated and how only the Lords people will go there.
Ezekiel 38:8-11 describes how the new inhabitants, the faithful Christian peoples will live there.
 
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Russia - Magog is the land and people from the descendants of Japheth`s son. They eventually settled in the `far north,` (Ez. 38: 6). The Hebrew word is `tsaphon,` meaning, the north as a quarter of the earth - Russia.

The main reason for this `war,` is economic. Russia has only 7% of its land that is arable, the rest is mountains or winters so long that is cannot grow mass crops. The Ukraine is its bread basket and Russia cannot let them join NATO and be its adversary.



The Motive.
`Thus says the Lord God: On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan: I will go against a peaceful people, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates-

to take plunder and to take booty, to stretch out your hand against the waste places that are again inhabited, and against a people gathered from the nations, who have acquired livestock and goods, who dwell in the midst of the land.` (Ez. 38: 10 - 12)


The region that this Russian Federation invades is the Golan Heights near the Syrian border. It is the only place in Israel that does not have walls. The Israelites have turned the once barren land into a fertile region with farms, livestock, vineyards, fruit trees etc.

All good incentives for the invasion, especially with the great deposits of oil. Recently Israel has discovered oil in the Golan Heights with the potential for over a billion barrels of oil.
 
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The Great Army.

`Persia, Cush, and Phut are with them, all with shield and helmet; Gomer and all its troops; the house of Togarmah from the far north and all its troops - many people are with you.` (Ez. 38: 5 & 6)

This gives us insight into who aligns with Russia.

Iran - ancient Persia. Ethiopia - Cush from Ham`s descendants. (Gen. 10: 6) Libya - Phut also from Ham`s descendants. (Gen. 10: 6)

Turkey - Gomer and Togarmah - grandsons of Noah and son of Japheth. (Gen. 10: 2 & 3) Both settled in the region now called Turkey.

Many people - Former Soviet nations.

CIS - Commonwealth of Independent States -

Russia, Ukraine, Byelorussia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan



Others Republics - Georgia, Estonia, Lithuania, Molova,



The Slavic Nations -


Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Latvia, Belarus,
 
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1. The world turns against Israel. (already happening)

2. Israel wins the war against Hamas.

3. God turns Russia away from the Ukraine and brings them (& others) down to the Golan heights and deals with them there.


I give it about 3 months. Any thoughts?
Will you put your money into it? If it will not happen in 3 months, donate a substantial amount to a charity.

It has become common in futurism to make false public eschatological predictions without consequences.
 
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No, I didn`t forget it. Here is what I see about that war -

THE SIX DAY WAR

Speaking three weeks after the war ended, as he accepted an honorary degree from Hebrew University, Yitzhak Rabin gave his reasoning behind the success of Israel:

Our airmen, who struck the enemies' planes so accurately that no one in the world understands how it was done and people seek technological explanations or secret weapons; our armored troops who beat the enemy even when their equipment was inferior to his; our soldiers in all other branches... who overcame our enemies everywhere, despite the latter's superior numbers and fortifications-all these revealed not only coolness and courage in the battle but...an understanding that only their personal stand against the greatest dangers would achieve victory for their country and for their families, and that if victory was not theirs the alternative was annihilation.[163]

Within six days, Israel had won a decisive land war. Israeli forces had taken control of the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, the West Bank and East Jerusalem from Jordan, and the Golan Heights from Syria.

Psalm 83.

V. 1 - 5
We see the enemies of God & Israel are conspiring together saying `Come let us wipe them out as a nation.`

In 1967 different countries around Israel took counsel together with one accord to destroy Israel from being a nation. For the first time in history these countries forgot their differences. They formed a confederacy to declare a `Jehud` - holy war to wipe the name of Israel from remembrance. These actual words were frequently broadcast over Radio Cairo & published in world newspapers. Unknowingly they were practically quoting directly from prophecy given 25 centuries ago. (Ps. 83: 4)


V. 6 - 8 Even the participants were accurately delineated - under ancient names.


ANCIENT NAME.....................MODERN NAME

Edom, Moab, Ammon................Jordan
Hagarenes, Amalek, Philistines...Egypt
Ishmaelites......................Arabia
Gebal, Tyre......................Lebanon
Assyria..........................Syria, Iraq


V. 9 - 18 And what was the outcome?

`Fill their faces with dishonour,....let them be ashamed & dismayed...let them be humiliated.....` (V. 16 & 17)
Israel AGAINST

OTHERS - Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq & Lebanon, (supported by Algeria, Kuwait, Libya, Morocco, Pakistan, PLO, Sudan, & Tunisia)

Their Strength.

Israel - 264,000 troops, 300 aircraft, 800 tanks.

The Others - 547,000 troops 957 aircraft, 2,504 tanks.



With those numbers and the war over in 6 days I would say the `Others` would be very embarrassed & ashamed. (as scripture tells us)
Israel will be at peace when the Gog/Magog war happens.
Please understand that Gog is a spiritual prince over Russia.
Ezekiel 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
Just as Gabriel fought the prince of Persia for twenty one days in the book of Daniel, there is Gog, the chief prince over the land of Meshech and Tubal named Gog.

Now most people refuse to see the spiritual entities at work here. Even though we see the natural , flesh and blood war, there is a larger spiritual war behind all of it that we cannot see. But as Christians endued with the Holy Spirit, we should open our eyes to the larger implications of what is happening.

Daniel 10:11 And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling.

12 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.

13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

Daniel 10:20 Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.

21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.

These are spiritual entities at war with each other. We know from our natural history that Greece deposed Persia,but it was the spiritual entities at war with each other. So it is today whether one choses to see it or not imho.
 
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Will you put your money into it? If it will not happen in 3 months, donate a substantial amount to a charity.

It has become common in futurism to make false public eschatological predictions without consequences.
We wont have long to see.
 
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Israel will be at peace when the Gog/Magog war happens.
Please understand that Gog is a spiritual prince over Russia.
Ezekiel 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
Just as Gabriel fought the prince of Persia for twenty one days in the book of Daniel, there is Gog, the chief prince over the land of Meshech and Tubal named Gog.

Now most people refuse to see the spiritual entities at work here. Even though we see the natural , flesh and blood war, there is a larger spiritual war behind all of it that we cannot see. But as Christians endued with the Holy Spirit, we should open our eyes to the larger implications of what is happening.

Daniel 10:11 And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling.

12 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.

13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

Daniel 10:20 Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.

21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.

These are spiritual entities at war with each other. We know from our natural history that Greece deposed Persia,but it was the spiritual entities at war with each other. So it is today whether one choses to see it or not imho.
Yes, I agree that there are spiritual (demonic) powers at work behind the rulers of this world.
 
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Create a reminder, in your phone, and return to this thread on the 23rd of January to tell us you were right.
Good idea, however, I think it will be in the middle of February.
 
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If Israel does go ahead with this I think there might be more trouble than just the 3 you have listed.
Could also be an economic collapse , sky high fuel prices etc etc.

Nation against nation also means ethnos against ethnos or ethnic against ethnic or something like that.
Iran might even call for a jihad in all nations that support Israel.

I think we might be seeing the beginings of something like that right now.

 
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God’s Solution for the Middle East Crisis:

Isaiah 42:13-15 Long have I restrained Myself, I kept silent and held Myself in check, but now I groan like a woman in labour. I will make a great noise and devastate the earth. I will go forth in fury, as a soldier in the heat of battle, I shall burn the trees and pastures and make the holy Land a desolate wasteland. Joel 1:15-18

Jeremiah 49:2-5 A time is coming says the Lord, when the cities of Jordan will hear the battle cry: Amman will become a desolate mound and all their towns will be burnt to ashes. Do not boast of your strength, for I will bring terror on you from all sides , you will be driven headlong. Amos 1:13-15, Ezekiel 21:28-32

Jeremiah 49:17-18 The lands of Edom/Esau will become burnt and desolate, a destruction like that of Sodom will strike them. Isaiah 25:1-3, Amos 1:11-12

Jeremiah 49:23-27 In Syria, they have heard of the coming disaster, they run about in terror, pains like childbirth grip them. A fire will devour their cities and their military men will lie still in death on that Day. Amos 1:3-5

Isaiah 17:1 Damascus will cease to be a city, she will be reduced to a heap of ruins, forever desolated.... Amos 1:3-4

Jeremiah 49:34-37 I shall break the bow of Elam [Iran], I shall destroy the chief weapon of their might. I will scatter them to the four winds, My fierce anger and fiery wrath will make an end of them. Ezekiel 32:24-25



None of these plainly stated prophesies have happened yet. They will be literally fulfilled by:

Isaiah 13:6-8 Wail: for the Day of the Lord is at hand, a great devastation from the Almighty! Because of it, every hand will hang limp, courage will melt away. Fear and terror will come on people, agonizing pangs will grip them, like a woman in labour. Jeremiah 6:24, Ezekiel 7:17

Isaiah 30:30 Then the Lord will make His voice heard in majesty, His arm will descend in His fierce anger with devouring flames of fire amid cloudbursts and storm winds. Isaiah 30:26a tells us exactly what the Lord will use.

Jeremiah 9:22 Corpses will fall and lie like dung in the fields, no one will gather them.

Isaiah 37:26 Have you not heard? Long ago I planned it and now I bring it about. Your great cities have crashed into heaps of rubble.

For now; the best advice is:
Hebrews 10:25-27 Keep up your fellowship and encourage one another, as we see the Day of the Lord drawing near. For if we deliberately persist in sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, then there can be no further atonement and there remains only a terrifying expectation of the fierce fire that will consume God’s enemies.
Ref: REB. Some verses abridged.

Surely, we CAN see that the great and terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath against the nations is drawing near. His Judgement/punishment by fire; Psalms 11:4-6, Psalms 83, 2 Peter 3:7

Is there any other possible and workable solution between Israel and the Islamic peoples? Populations keep increasing; resources keep diminishing, humans cannot resolve this situation, we need God to do it.

Look forward to the Day of the Lord’s wrath and pray to hasten it on.... 2 Peter 3:12
 
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