Friend denies COVID and forces me into her worldview

DiscipleHeLovesToo

Regular Member
Site Supporter
Nov 13, 2010
2,724
529
✟77,537.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Single
i wear a mask in public for these reasons only:

-it's been mandated by the governor of the state i live in (Rom 13:1); and i don't perceive that this is any more of an attack on my faith in God's Word as Absolute Truth than when i hear Christians express faith in medical science above God's Word (such as Ex 15:26, last phrase; Psalms 103:3, Isaiah 53:5; Mat 8:16, 17; 1Pet 2:24; etc. etc. etc) - it wasn't until i was diagnosed with terminal cancer and given 6 months to live (23 years ago) that i began to really believe that focusing on God's Word would heal what the best of science said could not be healed (i.e., focus on these and other similar scriptures, instead of focusing on medical science' prediction of my imminent death). i believe that this is why i am still alive (and in very good health, free from sickness, prescription drugs, regular medical treatment, 'preventative tests', medical 'specialists', 'co-pays' and drug costs, etc.) in spite of what medical science was so certain of 23 years ago.

-witness opportunity - I wrote "Psalms 91" across my mask (not the whole text of Psalms 91, just the phrase "Psalms 91") - people often ask me what Psalms 91 is about, and i get the privilege of telling them; stressing the first part of verse 2, and verses 9 and 10

-so that i don't inspire fear in others who don't have the same understanding of the cause of and God-centered defense from sickness as i do - until i faced cancer, i didn't have to decide what i believed about sickness and healing, as is true of most people.

if your friend is basing her belief that covid isn't a threat to her on anything other than God's Word, then she is certainly at risk - but rather than try to convince her to change her thinking on covid, if you'll concentrate your efforts toward getting her focus off covid and onto God's promise of eternal life, she might enter into fellowship with Him based on faith on His grace rather than her performance; and give Him a better opportunity to help her rely on His Word to resist fear in every area of her life - not just covid. eternal life doesn't start when people leave their flesh bodies; it began when God said 'Let there be Light" (before there was a sun or stars) - we who are reborn in Christ and still in flesh bodies on this earth are already living eternal life - but we enjoy the benefits of living in heaven on earth only to the extent to which we have renewed our minds with His Word (the most worthy goal that none of us, including me, will fully reach while in flesh bodies on this earth).

(Mat 25:44) Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
(Mat 25:45) Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
(Mat 25:46) And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

(Joh 17:1) These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

(Joh 17:2) As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
(Joh 17:3) And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

(emphasis added by me)
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

klutedavid

Well-Known Member
Dec 7, 2013
9,346
4,381
Sydney, Australia.
✟244,844.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Single
A close friend of mine is living in one of the riskiest areas (also very densely populated) where there's already a curfew during night hours. However even as late as September and as of today she still doesn't take the pandemic seriously and still insists the virus being fake. The most worrying part is she asked me joining a weird "news" channel which she claimed being the uncensored truth, as well as saying she was well-informed after watching several shady YouTube videos (on the other hand there're already lots of mythbuster videos around) which contain crazy conspiracy theories. As we often meet due to work or studies, it's indeed (even virtually) inevitable interacting her. Now I'm rather conflicted about how to deal with these relationships without being a jerk and also her mindset of her feeling entitled or superior for holding fringe (and potentially dangerous) views? While we know our mutual friends well and they're all rational, careful folks, I just don't know what kind of people she hangs out with, and where she got these views from.

The worst part of people breeching these rules or not wearing masks is not only they're risking themselves, they're also very selfish folks using freedom as their excuses.

Edit and PS: To prevent misunderstandings I didn't got persuaded and dare clicking into these links, as they're literally gateway drugs to even more dangerous things. We used to get along very well and many of our mutual friends knew nothing about her, and she literally became another person after COVID.
Everyone out there has different ideas and beliefs, on so many topics. That is a fact of life and the faster you can accept people, for how they are, the better.

The differences in opinions are wide ranging; climate change, sport, political opinion, e.t.c. Even within Christianity the divisions are wide ranging. The sooner you can come to terms with human nature, the easier life will become.

Your friend is mistaken about Covid-19 but she is not alone. There is nothing you can do about the opinions of other people.
 
Upvote 0

CaspianSails

Well-Known Member
Jan 30, 2019
579
302
65
Washington DC metro area
✟27,746.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Even though masking without distancing has been demonstrated to be wholly useless by the CDC it can be marginally helpful when distancing, again the CDC data and studies on their web page not the stuff which makes up the news these days. So when I go out I wear the mask and distance. We should not be fools during a pandemic. Even if the mask is marginally helpful why not use it. Not touching your face and hand washing is more useful. But together they do provide a reasonable, although not a total protection. In a study conducted and available at the CDC, a group of people who tested positive were studied and the results where that of the population studied 85% of those in the study, all of them were infected, either always or almost always wore the mask outside the home. 15% rarely or never wore a mask. However, a large majority of those who did not wear a mask reported being more vigilant regarding distancing. There is lesson there.
 
Upvote 0

Thera

Well-Known Member
Sep 21, 2019
507
336
Montreal
✟52,709.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
In Relationship
A close friend of mine is living in one of the riskiest areas (also very densely populated) where there's already a curfew during night hours. However even as late as September and as of today she still doesn't take the pandemic seriously and still insists the virus being fake. The most worrying part is she asked me joining a weird "news" channel which she claimed being the uncensored truth, as well as saying she was well-informed after watching several shady YouTube videos (on the other hand there're already lots of mythbuster videos around) which contain crazy conspiracy theories. As we often meet due to work or studies, it's indeed (even virtually) inevitable interacting her. Now I'm rather conflicted about how to deal with these relationships without being a jerk and also her mindset of her feeling entitled or superior for holding fringe (and potentially dangerous) views? While we know our mutual friends well and they're all rational, careful folks, I just don't know what kind of people she hangs out with, and where she got these views from.

The worst part of people breeching these rules or not wearing masks is not only they're risking themselves, they're also very selfish folks using freedom as their excuses.

Edit and PS: To prevent misunderstandings I didn't got persuaded and dare clicking into these links, as they're literally gateway drugs to even more dangerous things. We used to get along very well and many of our mutual friends knew nothing about her, and she literally became another person after COVID.
Your friend is right. There is no coronavirus. This whole thing is a scam, hence the phrase "scamdemic". Some also refer to it as a "dempanic". It might take you a while to realise it, but that's okay. Trump knows it too, but he can't say it, as it would affect his votes, because so many people believe in it. It's like a parent telling his child that there is no Santa. Instead of being grateful for the truth, the child will display aggression toward the parent for attacking his closely-held and cherished belief.

I noticed you didn't post any of the news sites where your friend gets her updates. Are you able to share? I don't know how accurate they are, but I think these days, anything would beat the constant barrage of lies, half-truths and contradictions from the mainstream media.
 
Upvote 0
Nov 4, 2020
9
8
52
Cincinnati, OH
✟15,589.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Single
What is troubling you that you aren't noticing is the classification of this person as a "close friend" that you don't share in the same set of moral standards with.

This person can't actually be a friend if they are actively trying to change you. They aren't even respectful of who you are.

But you are claiming close friendship.

Ok...this has to stop.
You can begin by limiting them to an associate level of interaction.

Boundaries is the real problem here.
You really need to develop some.
Very well said JohnDB, I just went through the same thing and it cost me $6,000. I too encourage boundaries. Life lessons are less expensive that way.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JohnDB
Upvote 0