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Albion

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Not opinion, but witnessed first hand; deny it all you want, it is what it is.


I'd say it was what it was. Either an exception, something that was true of a bygone era, or a regional peculiarity. I'm also sure that such people would have operated the same way if their bond had been the labor union, a certain denomination, or some other club. It's not characteristic of Masonry. In fact, some of it (as described) is forbidden by Masonry.
 
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the history of Freemasonry is steeped in vague Deism, war-mongering and occult secrecy
it is a child of the Age of Enlightenment, which brought us such lovely things as the French Revolution

You really should stop raving on about things you don't know.
 
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Islamic attire is the dress of Shriners when they parade in our annual city parade, in which the wife of our deceased friend dressed with other women in the same organization in the same parade like women looking like something out of "The Arabian Knights".
The men dressed in similar Islamic attire to march in our parades.
The Shriners initiation does include an oath to allah, does it not?

Is this true or not -did you participate in this?:
Freemasonry and Shriners

Is this true, or not, did you take these oaths?:
You say you are part of the Scottish Rite: how can you justify, as a Christian, these things, reported below? Note: Abaddon is Apollyon who is the Destroyer who is the Satan over Sheol who is the Satan who eats the dust of men/which is Corruption who eats the flesh and feeds Sheol the souls of men who are held there when they depart the flesh body, since the curse put on Adam at the fall:

 
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I've been part of the shrine as well. At no time did I dress in Arabic attire.
Freemasonry and Shriners

 
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No wonder I bawled so much from deep within my soul at our dear friend's funeral service. It sprang from the sorrow/grief of the Holy Spirit in me, for his untimely death and suffering and involvement in that which destroys -even though he said he had made it right with Jesus, he never renounced those false gods.

 
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I don't see anything to this. Lots of "fun" organizations in the past playacted at dressing up like foreign cultures. The Mummers' Parade used to be a big thing, you may remember. But times change.

The Shriners initiation does include an oath to allah, does it not?
I wouldn't know. But then, neither do you. Let's see if anyone can turn up real evidence.

Click here " JAH-BUL-ON " for visual copy of "Duncan's Ritual and Monitor" page 250 which clearly shows BUL and ON to be the demon gods of other nations.
Not that it matters to you, but the link does not "clearly show" (or show at all) what you say. It discusses various theories about some possible meanings of the term.
 
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Freemasonry and Shriners
 
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Testimonies of Men who have Left the Lodge to Follow Jesus

 
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Ex-Masons give Honest Answers to Important Questions

The Truth Shall Set You Free!

 
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One thing I won't do is defend anyone if they are wrong. IF what you say it's true, your talkIng about a very small group when considering how many masons there are world wide. You are using your own personal bias to sway the opinion of the thread.

Look at the facts when it comes to what we really do. 87% of the children treated at shriners hospitals have no Masonic affiliations.
 
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[SIZE=+3]RITE OR WRONG?[/SIZE]


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From the above link, the public Libraries have all the proofs of the secret rites of Freemasonry written By Freemasonry itself....and the oaths are taken in opposition to the Word of God.

 
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What have you got against "Jesus" people?

I have something against unreliable splinter religions, whatever attractive name they may assume. You would do well to be occasionally discriminating yourself, instead of believing everything that's on the internet.
 
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Apples and oranges, even Muslems take care of children.

Small Group? Masons in Toronto and what we now call the Greater Toronto Area in the 1960's and 70's; thousands would not be too far off, possibly 10s of thousands might be closer.
 
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