Freedom from Sin: Overcoming the Wet Paint Principle (the complete version)

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Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

 

[JIMINZ]

Are not all babies saved by Christ's sacrifice if they were to die?

NO, They are innocent!
There isn't a need for Christ's Sacrifice to be applied to an innocent person.

Luke 5:31,32
31) And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.
32) I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

A babe does not need a Physician, for he is whole already in the sight of God.

However, when they grow up, they fall into sin (and are clearly not saved).
They need Jesus and His salvation again.
What changed between the time of when they were a baby and when they grew up?

They reached an age of accountability.

 

[justbyfaith]

When both parents are unbelievers, the children are not holy.

 

[Halbhh]

When both parents are unbelievers, the children are not holy.

Any view must pass the test of being aligned to the Truth of Christ's Words. He said of little children --

Matthew 19:14 But Jesus said, "Let the little children come to Me, and do not hinder them! For the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

 

[Halbhh]

Saint Paul told us:

Romans 2:6 God "will repay each one according to his deeds."

Romans 4:15

Romans 5:13

It's not possible God would cause young children that have died to suffer in the afterlife, the Day of Judgement, as they haven't knowledge of law. Instead, for those without Christ He will fairly repay real deeds done intentionally once a person has some way to know what is right and wrong, such as conscience (Romans 2:6-16).

 

[JIMINZ]

Any view must pass the test of being aligned to the Truth of Christ's Words. He said of little children --

Matthew 19:14 But Jesus said, "Let the little children come to Me, and do not hinder them! For the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

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Jesus was talking about Christians not little children.

What He said was a metaphor.

Mat_18:3
And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

 

[JIMINZ]

When both parents are unbelievers, the children are not holy.

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They may not be Holy, but up to a certain age, when a human being is held accountable for their own actions, a babe (child) is deemed to be innocent.

 

[JIMINZ]

Saint Paul told us:

Romans 2:6 God "will repay each one according to his deeds."

Romans 4:15

Romans 5:13

It's not possible God would cause young children that have died to suffer in the afterlife, the Day of Judgement, as they haven't knowledge of law. Instead, for those without Christ He will fairly repay real deeds done intentionally once a person has some way to know what is right and wrong, such as conscience (Romans 2:6-16).

All of your verses about the Law are correct, but your stretching the understanding of them, in your application of them to children.

 

[JIMINZ]

So is Romans 3:11. For do you believe that all believers today have no understanding and that do not seek after God?

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Rom 3:11 is not about Believers.

 

[JIMINZ]

Well, having repented in the past does not mean you can sin again and be in God's good graces. It doesn't work like that. If such were the case, then Matthew 5:22, Matthew 5:28-30, Matthew 6:15, and 1 John 3:15 would be gibberish non-sense or useless warnings.

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Do you not know nor understand that Jesus was speaking to the unsaved Jews of that time, and what he said does not apply to Believers of any time?

Then there is what John said, in essence he said the person who does not love his brother is not Saved, because he does not have Eternal Life abiding in him.

It would help the discussion immensely if you knew what Scripture actually said before you posted it.

 

[justbyfaith]

Any view must pass the test of being aligned to the Truth of Christ's Words. He said of little children --

I guess Paul's words are not enough for you then?

Children are not under the umbrella of God's protection if neither of their parents are saved; and are more likely to go to hell if they die too soon. Children that are truly wicked do go to hell if they die without Christ.

 

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@JIMINZ

God is talking to my heart not to talk to you at this time.
He is telling me that nothing I say with His Word will convince you.

May God's goodness be upon you today.