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Free your mind.

Isaiah 64:8

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1) The Matrix is real.

At this point, all you have to know that the Matrix is real. By your human standards, the Plato’s 'Allegory Of The Cave' have been illustrated to you in the installments of the pop culture ’Matrix’ trilogy.

The Matrix is real, although not as in the pop culture movies. There are many different layers of the Matrix, I might add. Ever since a human is born, it is free and pure, yet when it grows up, it will become bound by rules and distinctions of the society – the Matrix created by the human itself.

To liberate yourself from the global Matrix, you must start by liberating yourself from your own Matrix.

On this level of existence, humans face the Balance. There is a balance to everything – Good and Bad, 1 and 0, Positive and Negative. In order to know Good, one must know what is Bad. This is the way most of your human cerebrums function here, in this Matrix.

To get us to the present context from Plato’s ’Allegory of the Cave’, the world outside is Good. And that brings us to the next point – to free your mind, you must realize that there is no Bad. The Bad is the product of your negative thoughts.


2) Free your mind.

Some of you are ready and some of you are not. No one says that you have to free your mind. No one can go against the Free Will (yet the Free Will is bound by the distinctions of your Matrix). If you want to, you can stay right here where you are and do what you always did. And why should you free your mind if you are satisfied with the world you’re living in?

No one but yourself can tell you what to do.

But some of you know that there is more to this world.

Perhaps some of you have felt it your entire life. Perhaps some of you have just started feeling it. Perhaps you call yourself a Redpill, perhaps you call yourself an Angel, Druid, Alien, Elf, et cetera. No matter what you call yourself or what you are or where you are - you are thinking different than the rest of the humans. You know that you are different, that you are not a part of the System.

And to an extent, you feel that the world you are living in is not real.
If you are already in this state, you are already freeing your mind.


And here goes the million dollar question: Why do you need to free your mind?


As I have mentioned before, the Matrix you are living in is a balance between Good and Bad. But outside the Matrix, the ‘Cave’, there is no Bad. There are no wars, no disasters, no pain. Outside the Matrix, everything is Good. There is Love.

That is why.

There are many different ways to expand your consciousness, to free your mind. Some use meditation. Others use trance. Some wear a cross. Others practice Yoga. Some read philosophy books. Others help the helpless. Possibilities are endless. All of them are just the different languages – but the Purpose is the same – to achieve the expansion your consciousness, to liberate yourselves from the Matrix.

There is nothing right and wrong. Because you humans will find your own way, guided by your inner voice - guided by God.

start caring
start loving
start helping
love yourselves

start thinking positive
love the ones who are close to you
find your inner love - it will move the world - it will free you from the Matrix


Find the way that is most convenient for you and free your mind. There is nothing right and wrong. Start giving love. Nothing is impossible.


--S




(those who are interested, can find my journal on LiveJournal - serach for htims)
 

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Isaiah 64:8 said:
1) The Matrix is real.

At this point, all you have to know that the Matrix is real. By your human standards, the Plato’s 'Allegory Of The Cave' have been illustrated to you in the installments of the pop culture ’Matrix’ trilogy.

The Matrix is real, although not as in the pop culture movies. There are many different layers of the Matrix, I might add. Ever since a human is born, it is free and pure, yet when it grows up, it will become bound by rules and distinctions of the society – the Matrix created by the human itself.

To liberate yourself from the global Matrix, you must start by liberating yourself from your own Matrix.

On this level of existence, humans face the Balance. There is a balance to everything – Good and Bad, 1 and 0, Positive and Negative. In order to know Good, one must know what is Bad. This is the way most of your human cerebrums function here, in this Matrix.

To get us to the present context from Plato’s ’Allegory of the Cave’, the world outside is Good. And that brings us to the next point – to free your mind, you must realize that there is no Bad. The Bad is the product of your negative thoughts.


2) Free your mind.

Some of you are ready and some of you are not. No one says that you have to free your mind. No one can go against the Free Will (yet the Free Will is bound by the distinctions of your Matrix). If you want to, you can stay right here where you are and do what you always did. And why should you free your mind if you are satisfied with the world you’re living in?

No one but yourself can tell you what to do.

But some of you know that there is more to this world.

Perhaps some of you have felt it your entire life. Perhaps some of you have just started feeling it. Perhaps you call yourself a Redpill, perhaps you call yourself an Angel, Druid, Alien, Elf, et cetera. No matter what you call yourself or what you are or where you are - you are thinking different than the rest of the humans. You know that you are different, that you are not a part of the System.

And to an extent, you feel that the world you are living in is not real.
If you are already in this state, you are already freeing your mind.


And here goes the million dollar question: Why do you need to free your mind?


As I have mentioned before, the Matrix you are living in is a balance between Good and Bad. But outside the Matrix, the ‘Cave’, there is no Bad. There are no wars, no disasters, no pain. Outside the Matrix, everything is Good. There is Love.

That is why.

There are many different ways to expand your consciousness, to free your mind. Some use meditation. Others use trance. Some wear a cross. Others practice Yoga. Some read philosophy books. Others help the helpless. Possibilities are endless. All of them are just the different languages – but the Purpose is the same – to achieve the expansion your consciousness, to liberate yourselves from the Matrix.

There is nothing right and wrong. Because you humans will find your own way, guided by your inner voice - guided by God.

start caring
start loving
start helping
love yourselves

start thinking positive
love the ones who are close to you
find your inner love - it will move the world - it will free you from the Matrix


Find the way that is most convenient for you and free your mind. There is nothing right and wrong. Start giving love. Nothing is impossible.


--S




(those who are interested, can find my journal on LiveJournal - serach for htims)

Filled with untruth and many points that amount to blasphemy.
 
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Zaac said:
Filled with untruth and many points that amount to blasphemy.

I'm wondering if you said that just because of the Matrix comparison. Had he been using Marx (Say, us Proletariat vs them Bourgeoisie) or Christianity (us Christians vs Satan).

Paul calles Satan "the prince of this world." "This world" doesn't mean the world God created, where no evil exists, it means the world that the devil wants us to live in, that we created when we say we are better than God. God gave us free will. The Devil wants us to use that free will to sin, and stray from God's world. This doesn't conflict with Christianity.

The only things I can see that would possibly qualify as "blasphemy" would be the remark that there is a world without evil, and the idea of using Yoga and such for liberation. As for the world, did God create an evil world? We, under the influence of Satan, have chosen to make this world bad. As for using means other than a supposedly literal interpretation of the Bible, there are a variety of things done by different Christians that aren't considered right or wrong. Some Christians use wine, others grape juice. Neither one is more correct than the other. Don't say that "well, that's from another religion, so it's satanic!" because there are a variety of elements that are accepted in Christianity that were originally non-Christian.
 
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Abbadon said:
I'm wondering if you said that just because of the Matrix comparison.

Nope.


Paul calles Satan "the prince of this world." "This world" doesn't mean the world God created, where no evil exists, it means the world that the devil wants us to live in, that we created when we say we are better than God.

What world are you referring to other than the one you are living in now?

God gave us free will. The Devil wants us to use that free will to sin, and stray from God's world. This doesn't conflict with Christianity.

It strays from God's Word because God's kingdom is a kingdom of spirit, not of flesh and blood. And He has yet to establish His Kingdom here.

This world belongs to satan. Satan is the god of this world (2 Cor. 4:4) 4The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God His throne is here, not in hell. The whole world lies in the arms of the wicked one (1 Jn. 5:19). 19We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one

The only things I can see that would possibly qualify as "blasphemy" would be the remark that there is a world without evil, and the idea of using Yoga and such for liberation. As for the world, did God create an evil world? We, under the influence of Satan, have chosen to make this world bad. As for using means other than a supposedly literal interpretation of the Bible, there are a variety of things done by different Christians that aren't considered right or wrong.

When we stand before God's throne and give an acount of every idle word, there will be nothing but right and wrong.

Some Christians use wine, others grape juice. Neither one is more correct than the other. Don't say that "well, that's from another religion, so it's satanic!" because there are a variety of elements that are accepted in Christianity that were originally non-Christian.

He says to do this in remembrance of Me. He says nothing about using either grape juice or wine so what's the point being made?
 
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Zaac said:
Ok, fair enough

Zaac said:
What world are you referring to other than the one you are living in now?
Ok, God created a nice world (paradise), we screwed it up and are viewing a different world. Physically,

Zaac said:
It strays from God's Word because God's kingdom is a kingdom of spirit, not of flesh and blood. And He has yet to establish His Kingdom here.
Physically. However, there is a spiritual capital established.

Zaac said:
This world belongs to satan. Satan is the god of this world (2 Cor. 4:4) 4The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God His throne is here, not in hell. The whole world lies in the arms of the wicked one (1 Jn. 5:19). 19We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one


Yeah, that's kind of what that post is about. You're thinking that "the Matrix" or whatever is a physical place, but it is a state of mind. Essentially this thread is about "free your mind (from sin in this world)"

Zaac said:
When we stand before God's throne and give an acount of every idle word, there will be nothing but right and wrong.
The point being made is not about evil actions existing in this world, but the next. The point is, there is no sin in heaven.

Zaac said:
He says to do this in remembrance of Me. He says nothing about using either grape juice or wine so what's the point being made?

I'm saying that there are alot of things that we Christians do that Jesus didn't make up His mind about one way or the other.

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Hmmm... I think we're saying the same thing, you're just not realizing it. God created the world, the devil influenced us to screw it up, and it would be our fault if we chose not to realize that there is a world without sin (Heaven).

That's what both of us are saying.
 
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Abbadon said:
Yeah, that's kind of what that post is about. You're thinking that "the Matrix" or whatever is a physical place, but it is a state of mind. Essentially this thread is about "free your mind (from sin in this world)"

That state of mind does not render evil nonexistant. Satan works in the mind, and his evil is just as real in the spiritual as it is in the physical.

Evil is not a state of mind. It doesn't go away just because we can make ourselves think it's not there. It is there are long as God allows satan to roam freely.

The point being made is not about evil actions existing in this world, but the next. The point is, there is no sin in heaven.

True. But we are not presently in heaven. And you have told people there is no bad when there is plenty of bad in this world.

I'm saying that there are alot of things that we Christians do that Jesus didn't make up His mind about one way or the other.

Such as the Observing of the Last Supper? He didn't have to make up His mind. His mind knew what was to be and that's what He directed us to do. yes indeed there are those things upon which God remains silent and on those things it is not our place to judge. But He spoke on enough that we should be able to judge bad in this world as bad, and there is plenty of it, and it's not just in the mind.

We have people in another thread trying to justify incest. :(


Hmmm... I think we're saying the same thing, you're just not realizing it. God created the world, the devil influenced us to screw it up, and it would be our fault if we chose not to realize that there is a world without sin (Heaven).

That's what both of us are saying.

To that point, yes. But you told folks that there is no bad. There is a whole lot of bad.
 
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This world is temporary, right? Heaven is eternal. Compare any length of time to an infinite amount of time and it is pretty much non existant.

What I meant about the Last Supper was that fact that we should do it was established that we do it. However, details like whether we use wine or grape juice are not established.

There is bad, but only because we allow it to exist.

Where did I say bad didn't exist? I said that it does exist, but only because we allow it. If I don't allow bad to exist, that doesn't stop someone else from allowing it to. Although the capability for evil will always exist, that doesn't mean that people have to use it.
 
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Abbadon said:
This world is temporary, right? Heaven is eternal. Compare any length of time to an infinite amount of time and it is pretty much non existant.

But we're talking about this world, not eternity. There is plenty of bad in this world regardless of there not being any in eternity.

What I meant about the Last Supper was that fact that we should do it was established that we do it. However, details like whether we use wine or grape juice are not established.

I agree.

There is bad, but only because we allow it to exist.

There is bad because GOD allows it to exist. :D But He's got a plan.

Where did I say bad didn't exist? I said that it does exist, but only because we allow it.

You said: And that brings us to the next point – to free your mind, you must realize that there is no Bad. The Bad is the product of your negative thoughts.

If I don't allow bad to exist, that doesn't stop someone else from allowing it to. Although the capability for evil will always exist, that doesn't mean that people have to use it.

The existance of evil is not predicated upon people's using it. Satan was on the scene long before man first sinned and he was evil then too. Evil exists regardless of us choosing to use it. Outside of Jesus Christ, we are all evil because evil is the absence of good.

And no one who is absent Jesus Christ has any good in himself. And in a world in which billions are absent Christ, evil exists evn if they aren't using it to accomplish a desired effect.
 
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