Fossil Record not consistent with Global Flood

[Loudmouth]

Amen, and the FIRST Human farming was in the valleys where Noah grew grapes.

Where is your evidence that Noah grew a single grape plant?

 

[Aman777]

Where is the evidence demonstrating that any Ark landed there?

It's in the bottom of Lake Van and covered over with 11k years of volcanic sediments. This makes the sediments line up for miles to form the biggest Spirals on Planet Earth. Go here:

Now, it's your time to show your us your evidence, ole friend.

 

[Loudmouth]

It's in the bottom of Lake Van and covered over with 11k years of volcanic sediments.

Evidence, please.

 

[Aman777]

Where is your evidence that Noah grew a single grape plant?

In order to show that Noah was all Human, God showed that AFTER his long journey, Noah was a might thirsty. Animals don't drink but humans do. Noah made some wine, got drunk and passed out in his tent demonstrating that the first Humans had arrived on this Planet of Apes, who didn't have enough sense to make themselves wine, so they had no evolutionary pressure to do so. Noah is the FIRST little old winemaker, Albert.

 

[Radrook]

This is known as the No True Scotsman fallacy.

They were Christians.

Unfortunately for many who feel that anything is acceptable, there are standards that must be met in order for a person to be considered a true Christian. If these standards are ignored, then Jesus himself said that such persons are merely paying him lip service but are in actuality far from him.

Matthew 7:

20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

 

[Aman777]

Evidence, please.

Explain the biggest Spiral landmasses on Earth being there UNLESS there is something bowl shaped under the masses. Perhaps the bottom half of the firmament?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

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He has offered no evidence to support his claim that the Bible is the standard by which all science is set. joshua19 has offered nothing.

 

[Aman777]

He has offered no evidence to support his claim that the Bible is the standard by which all science is set. joshua19 has offered nothing.

I know but you have refused to actually debate the subject. Perhaps it would be better to have an E-mail chat instead of begging for evidence only to IGNORE it when it is offered. Did you know that this is a public message board? Amen?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I know but you have refused to actually debate the subject. Perhaps it would be better to have an E-mail chat instead of begging for evidence only to IGNORE it when it is offered. Did you know that this is a public message board? Amen?

How can I ignore evidence when no evidence has been presented?
And what does this being a public forum have to do with anything?

 

[Loudmouth]

In order to show that Noah was all Human, God showed that AFTER his long journey, Noah was a might thirsty. Animals don't drink but humans do. Noah made some wine, got drunk and passed out in his tent demonstrating that the first Humans had arrived on this Planet of Apes, who didn't have enough sense to make themselves wine, so they had no evolutionary pressure to do so. Noah is the FIRST little old winemaker, Albert.

Stories in books are not evidence.

 

[freezerman2000]

 

[Hieronymus]

Wouldn't it have left some sort of evidence or clues though?

You mean like numerous layers with rapidly fossilized organisms, and marine sediments EVERYWHERE?
No, unfortunately there's nothing of that sort to be found anywhere......
We only have the Bible...
[/sarc]

 

[Hieronymus]

Stories in books are not evidence.

It is when it is recorded history.

You probably aren't aware of the fact that people didn't even doubt the reality of the flood before (say) the 16th century AD.
Even the Ark was known to be on Mt. Ararat, people visited it, took pieces of it.
The area is dangerous now due to political problems and what not, so it's hardly possible nowadays to go there, but some have anyway, and there's video-footage of relatively recent visits.

The fact that things are far in the past doesn't make them less true than before, you see.

 

[Jimmy D]

You mean like numerous layers with rapidly fossilized organisms, and marine sediments EVERYWHERE?
No, unfortunately there's nothing of that sort to be found anywhere......
We only have the Bible...
[/sarc]

No, I don't mean 'numerous layers with rapidly fossilized organisms, and marine sediments EVERYWHERE'. That is an overly simplistic statement and doesn't reflect modern understanding of the subject, have you actually read and understood the OP or even the thread title?

 

[Hieronymus]

No, I don't mean 'numerous layers with rapidly fossilized organisms, and marine sediments EVERYWHERE'. That is a overly simplistic statement and doesn't reflect modern understanding of the subject,

So what?
Fact is there are numerous rapidly fossilized organisms etcetera, so to say there is no evidence is just silly.

 

[Loudmouth]

It is when it is recorded history.

That is a claim. Where is the evidence demonstrating that it is recorded history? Simply repeating the story is not evidence.

You probably aren't aware of the fact that people didn't even doubt the reality of the flood before (say) the 16th century AD.

You are probably aware of the fact that people didn't even doubt the reality that the Sun moved about the Earth before the 16th century AD.

Even the Ark was known to be on Mt. Ararat, people visited it, took pieces of it.

Yet another bare assertion with no evidence to back it up.

 

[Loudmouth]

So what?
Fact is there are numerous rapidly fossilized organisms etcetera, so to say there is no evidence is just silly.

Rapidly fossilized organisms do not require a flood, a single global flood, a recent flood, or a young Earth.

 

[Aman777]

How can I ignore evidence when no evidence has been presented?
And what does this being a public forum have to do with anything?

When you ask for evidence on a public forum, other posters frequently become involved. Here is evidence which refutes (proves wrong) the False ToE.

God made the 1st Heaven/firmament on the 2nd Day. Gen 1:8
God made other Heavens/firmaments on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4

Evolutionists/Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe this. ll Peter 3:3-7

Do you believe Adam's Heaven/firmament/Universe was totally destroyed in the Flood?

 

[Hieronymus]

That is a claim. Where is the evidence demonstrating that it is recorded history?

Certain books, letters and other written stuff.
The Bible has been proving itself to be accurate on many things.
No evidence to suggest it is not.

Simply repeating the story is not evidence.

That's true.
But when there's proof of accuracy of a book that claims to be written history, the things that are not (yet)proven gain credibility, even if it's "unbelievable" to modern day readers.

You see, human nature has us wanting to believe we can be like gods, or like God, Master of (our) reality.
The Bible makes minced meat of this ambition, yet people come to believe it's the truth.
Often reluctantly.
So it's not wishful thinking, at all.
..just saying...

You are probably aware of the fact that people didn't even doubt the reality that the Sun moved about the Earth before the 16th century AD.

Yes, because they didn't have the evidence yet.

 

[Aman777]

Stories in books are not evidence.

They are when they agree in every way with every discovery of Humankind. Faith become Fact when Scripture, science and history AGREE. My understanding agrees with God's Truth which is the STANDARD with which to either refute (prove wrong) or confirm the changeable discoveries of science and history. Amen?