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[[serious]]

I vote Steve McQueen

 

[Carey]

I can't even watch it all due to how politically biased it is..that crap just sickens me. I want to be presented information that is as unbiased as possible, not some far left or right wing junk. I want the raw hard facts, not skewed information. Either way, I understand that its a microchip that can track who ever is wearing it. I'm torn on this issue. On the one had it can keep children, teenagers and adult safe if kidnapped, they run away, or are injured somewhere they can't get help. I also see the harm it can do if in the hands of the wrong people or if our government changes for the worse. I see it as beneficial and negative, and a ways to possibly impede on another's freedom. So again, I'm torn.

Thanks for your post. My pretty friend.

So I guess your not gonna vote in the poll then ??

 

[pgp_protector]

Given the domain, it looking more & more like VeriPay is dead. as the current owner has had it since 2005.

 

[Caitlin.ann]

Thanks for your post. My pretty friend.

So I guess your not gonna vote in the poll then ??

No problem, thanks for the compliment.

I may vote, I'm not sure yet. This is something I'm going to have to really think about and maybe make an opinion after I read everyone else's responses.

 

[Adivi]

LOL let me help you lol


Originally Posted by Carey
Verichip announce intention to replace Credit Cards in November 2003

If it is that hard to understand I will rephrase for you

Verichip announced in 2003 its inetentions to replace credit cards in the future.

There is that easier for ya to understand

That's a really bad way of saying it then, because you're splitting the adverbial phrase 'in November 2003' from the verb 'announce' with the object 'intention to replace credit cards', which itself contains a verb.

 

[[serious]]

it seems like a mark of the beast thing because it IS a mark of the beast thing. THe chip will apparently take your fingerprints, do facial recognition, adjust the hue on your monitor, surround you with flame effects and slow down your voice to make you sound more ominous. Oh, and they track it from space satellites which are VASTLY out of the device's range.

 

[I_are_sceptical]

I have no religious objection to such microchips. The Baha'i Faith has no Scriptural warnings about the "mark of the beast" or the number "666", so I am not worried the chip is a Satanic plot.

I have personal opinions about it, but I wouldn't want anyone to confuse them with actual Baha'i doctrine.

 

[pgp_protector]

...snip...
How do you know it is not yet trackable from satelite??...snip...

Start with how GPS Works
http://www.howstuffworks.com/gps.htm

1) You need an receiver with antenna, Smallest I found is much larger than the verichip system.

http://www.hiptechblog.com/2006/01/15/worlds-smallest-gps-receiver/
7mm x 5mm http://www.rakon.com/whatsnew/display?article_id=-130&template=news

This still requires a Powersupply (not available in the Passive RFID Tags)

Next would be the computer, and then a transmitter for tracking, or Data storage for recording data.

 

[Loudmouth]

1. is being used as a tracking device in animals now and can be used for tracking humans. And humans have had it implanted already as well for this purpose.

Humans are already tracked by their cell phones, credit cards, fingerprints, and biometrics.

2. The chip can be used to store all personal info health finacial etc.

Just like my computer, only handier.

3. The chip could be used as the sole monitary device for the planet. And banks are looking into its use.

Credit cards are almost universally accepted.

4. The spin is because the chip has been looked at to replace credit , debit cards and cash this could fit the
Biblical mark of the beast that prevents or allows people to buy or sell.

People in the real world do not base important decisions on rather wacky superstitions.

Besides, I remember certain christian sects and Zionists saying that they support Israel to ensure the upcoming Armegeddon. I would think they would be big supporters of this technology.

Even though the chip might save some lives from wrongly prescribed medications it could take millions more if it were to be used by a government like Nazi Germany for example ...to track down and murder any group or people it liked.

They can do that without RFID chips. During the Holocaust, Jews only got tattoos when they entered the camps, not before.

 

[Athene]

it seems like a mark of the beast thing because it IS a mark of the beast thing. THe chip will apparently take your fingerprints, do facial recognition, adjust the hue on your monitor, surround you with flame effects and slow down your voice to make you sound more ominous. Oh, and they track it from space satellites which are VASTLY out of the device's range.

Cool, I want one.

 

[Futuwwa]

I can has mark of teh beest?

 

[Carey]

I have no religious objection to such microchips. The Baha'i Faith has no Scriptural warnings about the "mark of the beast" or the number "666", so I am not worried the chip is a Satanic plot.

I have personal opinions about it, but I wouldn't want anyone to confuse them with actual Baha'i doctrine.

So yes and why or no and why??

thanks for your post and vote

 

[français]

Oh come on Carey, let us be realistic here.. No one is going to use this stupid chip. It is something that has existed for 50 years, but it is just now being discussed.. and mainly by the neo Christians who actually believe it is going to happen.

No one is going to have this stupid chip in them. Nor is anyone going to make someone do such. If anything, it would be put in criminals to catch criminals who escape and to help officers locate where criminals like pedophiles are.

But come on. That is all. We all know that.

 

[Carey]

it seems like a mark of the beast thing because it IS a mark of the beast thing. THe chip will apparently take your fingerprints, do facial recognition, adjust the hue on your monitor, surround you with flame effects and slow down your voice to make you sound more ominous. Oh, and they track it from space satellites which are VASTLY out of the device's range.

I think the satelite images were meant to infer the direction of the chips and their future capabilities which are not that far off.

here is an example of how small civilian devices already are.

Of course what the CIA and Nsa can do they will keep classified as long as possible.

The Migration Route Satellite-tracked by ArgoSat NTT

Figure 1: 15-gram Argos transmitter, used for tracking Far Eastern Curlews. Argosat micro-miniature transmitters, developed by NTT, were attached to Far Eastern Curlews in Australia in March 1997. Our hope was that the 15-gram transmitter, the world's smallest, would shed light on the migratory routes of this declining species.
NTT has supported wild bird tracking projects for over 10 years by developing and repeatedly miniaturizing tiny transmitters to mount on birds. On the request of BirdLife International, an umbrella organization for the world's protection agencies, we took up the new challenge of further miniaturizing the transmitter: from 25 grams to 15 grams. A readily-available 15 gram transmitter is a breakthrough for wild bird conservation: only with such lightweight devices is it possible to survey the migratory routes of medium-sized or small birds like Waders and Sand-pipers.
After studying the three main parts of the transmitter separately, i.e. body, casing, and attachment, we managed to reduce the weight of the heaviest parts of the body - the circuit and battery - first. Then, we created a new material for the casing. Through a series of attachment tests using birds in zoos, we finally produced a new transmitter weighing less than 15 grams.
With the Argosat transmitter mounted, some Eastern Curlews stayed in their wintering grounds in Australia, while others flew to their breeding grounds.

NTT displays easy-to-follow bird tracks at one of its wnn (World Nature Network) websites, called The Migration Route Satellite-tracked by Argosat (http://www.wnn.or.jp/wnn-n/migrant/english/index.html).

 

[Carey]

That's a really bad way of saying it then, because you're splitting the adverbial phrase 'in November 2003' from the verb 'announce' with the object 'intention to replace credit cards', which itself contains a verb.

Well I understood the meaning and I am not all dat smart

 

[Carey]

Humans are already tracked by their cell phones, credit cards, fingerprints, and biometrics.



Just like my computer, only handier.



Credit cards are almost universally accepted.



People in the real world do not base important decisions on rather wacky superstitions.

Besides, I remember certain christian sects and Zionists saying that they support Israel to ensure the upcoming Armegeddon. I would think they would be big supporters of this technology.



They can do that without RFID chips. During the Holocaust, Jews only got tattoos when they entered the camps, not before.

Yes there will be Christian sects for the chips and zionist too.

And yes the chips would just make it easier than tattoos because they can be tracked from a greater distance and vety soon will be able to track from satelite.

Here is the smallest civian device already in use.

But you know the Government will classify top secret the best technology as long as thety can.

The Migration Route Satellite-tracked by ArgoSat NTT

Figure 1: 15-gram Argos transmitter, used for tracking Far Eastern Curlews. Argosat micro-miniature transmitters, developed by NTT, were attached to Far Eastern Curlews in Australia in March 1997. Our hope was that the 15-gram transmitter, the world's smallest, would shed light on the migratory routes of this declining species.
NTT has supported wild bird tracking projects for over 10 years by developing and repeatedly miniaturizing tiny transmitters to mount on birds. On the request of BirdLife International, an umbrella organization for the world's protection agencies, we took up the new challenge of further miniaturizing the transmitter: from 25 grams to 15 grams. A readily-available 15 gram transmitter is a breakthrough for wild bird conservation: only with such lightweight devices is it possible to survey the migratory routes of medium-sized or small birds like Waders and Sand-pipers.
After studying the three main parts of the transmitter separately, i.e. body, casing, and attachment, we managed to reduce the weight of the heaviest parts of the body - the circuit and battery - first. Then, we created a new material for the casing. Through a series of attachment tests using birds in zoos, we finally produced a new transmitter weighing less than 15 grams.
With the Argosat transmitter mounted, some Eastern Curlews stayed in their wintering grounds in Australia, while others flew to their breeding grounds.

NTT displays easy-to-follow bird tracks at one of its wnn (World Nature Network) websites, called The Migration Route Satellite-tracked by Argosat (http://www.wnn.or.jp/wnn-n/migrant/english/index.html).

 

[Carey]

Start with how GPS Works
http://www.howstuffworks.com/gps.htm

1) You need an receiver with antenna, Smallest I found is much larger than the verichip system.

http://www.hiptechblog.com/2006/01/15/worlds-smallest-gps-receiver/
7mm x 5mm http://www.rakon.com/whatsnew/display?article_id=-130&template=news

This still requires a Powersupply (not available in the Passive RFID Tags)

Next would be the computer, and then a transmitter for tracking, or Data storage for recording data.

Good one.

You know the government is always gonna classify their most advanced technology top secret.

Here is what is in use in civilian circles now.You know the governemnt will have way smaller and better stuff already.

They had stealth ftechnology or decades before making it public kknowledge.

The Migration Route Satellite-tracked by ArgoSat NTT

Figure 1: 15-gram Argos transmitter, used for tracking Far Eastern Curlews. Argosat micro-miniature transmitters, developed by NTT, were attached to Far Eastern Curlews in Australia in March 1997. Our hope was that the 15-gram transmitter, the world's smallest, would shed light on the migratory routes of this declining species.
NTT has supported wild bird tracking projects for over 10 years by developing and repeatedly miniaturizing tiny transmitters to mount on birds. On the request of BirdLife International, an umbrella organization for the world's protection agencies, we took up the new challenge of further miniaturizing the transmitter: from 25 grams to 15 grams. A readily-available 15 gram transmitter is a breakthrough for wild bird conservation: only with such lightweight devices is it possible to survey the migratory routes of medium-sized or small birds like Waders and Sand-pipers.
After studying the three main parts of the transmitter separately, i.e. body, casing, and attachment, we managed to reduce the weight of the heaviest parts of the body - the circuit and battery - first. Then, we created a new material for the casing. Through a series of attachment tests using birds in zoos, we finally produced a new transmitter weighing less than 15 grams.
With the Argosat transmitter mounted, some Eastern Curlews stayed in their wintering grounds in Australia, while others flew to their breeding grounds.

NTT displays easy-to-follow bird tracks at one of its wnn (World Nature Network) websites, called The Migration Route Satellite-tracked by Argosat (http://www.wnn.or.jp/wnn-n/migrant/english/index.html).

 

[vajradhara]

Namaste Carey,

what is a "beddist"? someone that stays in bed alot?

perhaps you could summarize the point of the video which, in my estimation, would significantly increase the chances that you'd get an actual discussion.

metta,

~v

 

[pgp_protector]

Yes there will be Christian sects for the chips and zionist too.

And yes the chips would just make it easier than tattoos because they can be tracked from a greater distance and vety soon will be able to track from satelite.

Here is the smallest civian device already in use.

But you know the Government will classify top secret the best technology as long as thety can.

The Migration Route Satellite-tracked by ArgoSat NTT

Figure 1: 15-gram Argos transmitter, used for tracking Far Eastern Curlews. Argosat micro-miniature transmitters, developed by NTT, were attached to Far Eastern Curlews in Australia in March 1997. Our hope was that the 15-gram transmitter, the world's smallest, would shed light on the migratory routes of this declining species.
NTT has supported wild bird tracking projects for over 10 years by developing and repeatedly miniaturizing tiny transmitters to mount on birds. On the request of BirdLife International, an umbrella organization for the world's protection agencies, we took up the new challenge of further miniaturizing the transmitter: from 25 grams to 15 grams. A readily-available 15 gram transmitter is a breakthrough for wild bird conservation: only with such lightweight devices is it possible to survey the migratory routes of medium-sized or small birds like Waders and Sand-pipers.
After studying the three main parts of the transmitter separately, i.e. body, casing, and attachment, we managed to reduce the weight of the heaviest parts of the body - the circuit and battery - first. Then, we created a new material for the casing. Through a series of attachment tests using birds in zoos, we finally produced a new transmitter weighing less than 15 grams.
With the Argosat transmitter mounted, some Eastern Curlews stayed in their wintering grounds in Australia, while others flew to their breeding grounds.

NTT displays easy-to-follow bird tracks at one of its wnn (World Nature Network) websites, called The Migration Route Satellite-tracked by Argosat (http://www.wnn.or.jp/wnn-n/migrant/english/index.html).

at least you could use more current data
http://www.telonics.com/products/argosAvian/

and there GPS unit that CAN track location (though only 24 updates per day)
http://www.telonics.com/literature/tgw-3780/

 

[pgp_protector]

Good one.

You know the government is always gonna classify their most advanced technology top secret.

Here is what is in use in civilian circles now.You know the governemnt will have way smaller and better stuff already.

They had stealth ftechnology or decades before making it public kknowledge.

The Migration Route Satellite-tracked by ArgoSat NTT

Figure 1: 15-gram Argos transmitter, used for tracking Far Eastern Curlews. Argosat micro-miniature transmitters, developed by NTT, were attached to Far Eastern Curlews in Australia in March 1997. Our hope was that the 15-gram transmitter, the world's smallest, would shed light on the migratory routes of this declining species.
NTT has supported wild bird tracking projects for over 10 years by developing and repeatedly miniaturizing tiny transmitters to mount on birds. On the request of BirdLife International, an umbrella organization for the world's protection agencies, we took up the new challenge of further miniaturizing the transmitter: from 25 grams to 15 grams. A readily-available 15 gram transmitter is a breakthrough for wild bird conservation: only with such lightweight devices is it possible to survey the migratory routes of medium-sized or small birds like Waders and Sand-pipers.
After studying the three main parts of the transmitter separately, i.e. body, casing, and attachment, we managed to reduce the weight of the heaviest parts of the body - the circuit and battery - first. Then, we created a new material for the casing. Through a series of attachment tests using birds in zoos, we finally produced a new transmitter weighing less than 15 grams.
With the Argosat transmitter mounted, some Eastern Curlews stayed in their wintering grounds in Australia, while others flew to their breeding grounds.

NTT displays easy-to-follow bird tracks at one of its wnn (World Nature Network) websites, called The Migration Route Satellite-tracked by Argosat (http://www.wnn.or.jp/wnn-n/migrant/english/index.html).

old data

1) The Argos transmitters for bird migration don't supply GPS Data (you can see that on there site if you bother)
2) the GPS transmitters that the do have only transmit data at a maximum of 24 times per day.
http://www.telonics.com