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[trunks2k]

If someone got drugged and knocked out the chip could be implanted unknown to the victim.

But what would that even achieve? You'd have a chip in you that transmits a number. That's all these chips do. In fact these sorts of chips don't transmit so much as they reflect. The fears about these chips, as they exist now, are hugely over blown.

I see the pro and con on this: of course we want to protect our kids if they should (God forbid) get kidnapped, you want to know where they are.

Implantable chips of today are not capable of working like that. Doing locations is very hard to do, even when using GPS (GPS is simple in principle but more complex than you'd think in practice, and moden rfid chips are not capable of that sort of thing. In order for any sort of locating to be done there would have to be a huge network receivers. It's simply not practical. We have a hard enough time trying to get effective cell phone locations working (that's what my company does), and there's already an existing infrastructure to work off of.

I say it in almost all the threads about RFID.

1. The information about you is already available. It's just not centralized. THAT'S what you should be worried about if you're worried about privacy, not RFID chips.
2. If you're worried about being tracked, you have more to worry about when it comes to your cell phone than you do over any existing RFID device.

 

[AgentSloan]

You will be assimulated into the collective, resistance is....Futile

 

[Carey]

I see the pro and con on this: of course we want to protect our kids if they should (God forbid) get kidnapped, you want to know where they are.
But also see how people may not want know where everybody is at all the time. And we're becoming a paranoid society.
I'm going to vote no. Not a good idea. We just need to keep a better eye on our kids. And pray nothing happens to them.
At any event, I'm sure wives everywhere are signing up their husbands for this tracking device.
lol.

Wise and funny post!!!!!

Thank you

Carey

 

[Carey]

But what would that even achieve? You'd have a chip in you that transmits a number. That's all these chips do. In fact these sorts of chips don't transmit so much as they reflect. The fears about these chips, as they exist now, are hugely over blown.



Implantable chips of today are not capable of working like that. Doing locations is very hard to do, even when using GPS (GPS is simple in principle but more complex than you'd think in practice, and moden rfid chips are not capable of that sort of thing. In order for any sort of locating to be done there would have to be a huge network receivers. It's simply not practical. We have a hard enough time trying to get effective cell phone locations working (that's what my company does), and there's already an existing infrastructure to work off of.

I say it in almost all the threads about RFID.

1. The information about you is already available. It's just not centralized. THAT'S what you should be worried about if you're worried about privacy, not RFID chips.
2. If you're worried about being tracked, you have more to worry about when it comes to your cell phone than you do over any existing RFID device.

Yes prepaid cell phones are what are used by people who want to stay anonymous.

But I am sure the technology even of cell phones can open your mind to the obvious pros and cons in the chip

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

One use for the chip would be used in espionage and iam not saying its current capabilities are something to be concerned about, but only where this will take us in the future. I am thinking of this in contrast to the social security number. It started out innocently enough but now it's a State sponsored catch all.

 

[trunks2k]

Yes prepaid cell phones are what are used by people who want to stay anonymous.

Only if you use straight up cash. Use a a check, debit, or credit and it can be figured out who owns what. And even then, there's nothing prohibiting the government from creating a law that mandates ID be provided and recorded for those sorts of things.

But I am sure the technology even of cell phones can open your mind to the obvious pros and cons in the chip

I understand the supposed "cons" of the verichip. Some of them are potentially legit. but are not as straight forward as you may think. For example, random people reading the chip. You'd have to break encryption on the chip to get the ID, then break whatever security is in place to access the database that you use the ID against. Personally, I'm more worried about information about me that already exists out there being compromised.

But when it comes to tracking? No, as of right now there using a verichip for tracking is entirely unfeasible, and makes no practical sense. You'd have to build a massive network of high powered readers to track you. Why do that when there are plenty of existing potential solutions with an existing infrastructure (i.e. cell phones)? There have been experiments with tracking people in buildings with a verichip, but the way they do it is really no different than what many companies already do with badges, except the ID is inside you instead of carried with you. It's expensive enough to put a system like this in one office, imagine trying to make a network for a whole town.

 

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Merged a few more of these into the central thread.

Don't use 12 threads where 1 will do.​