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Is this chip a good thing??

  • yes

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Carey

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What does this have to do with evolution?

Well the goal of the post is to get evolutionists views on the chip.

But I guess if humans are evolving their could be an off topic way to go with how we eveolved to a point to be able to craete the chip.
 
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Maybe the evolutionists are afraid to watch the whole video and dont knwo how to respond because of lack of knowledge in the OP.
Now on this point about lack of knowledge in the OP I just might have to agree with :D
 
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Ok, given that it's a sin to lie and I don't believe you would lie to us (would you ?? )
Lets see if what you just posted is true .



1) The Microchip What is it. The Data they gave is wrong. A Microchip is a set of electronic components on a single unit.

2) Used as a Tracking Device. False. GPS Satalites don't track location, they Transmit Timing Singles. To Track a Location, you would need A GPS Receiver, A Computer to compute the location, A Transmitter to then transmit the ID & Location to a base station.

Clowns have scary green hair. (Maybe true for this clown)

The Implanted Microchip will store information such as Biometrics, History, Financial Status.
False: It only stores a Digital ID Number that is used to cross reference a database that would store any actual data.

Lots of EDITS in the video to make it appear like there saying one thing (lying by ommision)

Cartoons as Evidence ??

Sorry , you're in error if you say that this Video has many real facts in the video.

The fact is a so called eveolved species ( homo sapiens ) have created a chip with the potential to do all the things you refute.

Some of this same species have already been implanted willingly with this chip and the chip has been looked at for many other purposes than you mention.

and after one looks at the entire video and sees the many facts on it in addition to the ones I just mentioned they can make a more eductaed decision on how to vote in the poll.

Do you now understand??:doh:
 
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LOL

That is true the knowldge would come from watching the whole video in the ORIGINAL POST:doh:
I did, the video is Full of misinformation, lies of ommision, and bad data.
 
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The fact is a so called eveolved species ( homo sapiens ) have created a chip with the potential to do all the things you refute.
Lie. There is no chip that can do all the things in that video.

Some of this same species have already been implanted willingly with this chip and the chip has been looked at for many other purposes than you mention.
RFID tags only provide an ID Number, nothing that the video shows.


and after one looks at the entire video and sees the many facts on it in addition to the ones I just mentioned they can make a more eductaed decision on how to vote in the poll.
I did, the video doesn't have many facts, just misinformation.


Do you now understand??:doh:
Do you ?
 
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I do not see any particular problems with the chip as it really is. I do see a problem with the lies told in this clip. I also see a problem with Carey ignoring the correction to the lies in the clip, which make him a liar too.

But then again, my experience is that creationists are generally not very good on the morality thingie, so it all works out.
 
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You are wrong. Maybe even a liar:eek:

Tell me where the facts on this CNN coverage of verichip is false or contradictory to the first video.:doh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-PIyL3ke24
Well for starters this second video is not by CNN but by (According to the intro screen) ICU

They state that they are in negotiations with banks & ATM's (30 Seconds Second Video) but not that I found in the VariChip corporation SEC Filings. ( http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-e...=&State=&SIC=&owner=include&action=getcompany )


They state that chip was created by Digital Angel to compete with God (53 Seconds into Video) Nothing about this on there site ( http://www.digitalangel.com/about.aspx ) so are they reading minds to know what others are thinking now ?

They state that many employers are requiring employees to "get chipped" (may denotes a large number) yet they only mention ONE company, and not even if it was Required (as stated) or voluntary.
One company is not Many. Another Lie in the video.

They state that you can get burned by being near a strong magnetic field. False according to the laws of electromagnetism.
 
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Carey, for those of us that are unable to watch the video can you please post the facts that this video is trying to give us ?

The facts the video give are that the chip

1. is being used as a tracking device in animals now and can be used for tracking humans. And humans have had it implanted already as well for this purpose.

2. The chip can be used to store all personal info health finacial etc.

3. The chip could be used as the sole monitary device for the planet. And banks are looking into its use.

4. The spin is because the chip has been looked at to replace credit , debit cards and cash this could fit the
Biblical mark of the beast that prevents or allows people to buy or sell.

%. Even though the chip might save some lives from wrongly prescribed medications it could take millions more if it were to be used by a government like Nazi Germany for example ...to track down and murder any group or people it liked.:eek:

These are but a few of the facts but a basic synopsis of the video.
 
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funny, it reads this is for evolutionist in the op, and all i see in here are christians posting.... :scratch:
Accepting the theory of Evolution has nothing to do with one's religion.
 
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The facts the video give are that the chip

1. is being used as a tracking device in animals now and can be used for tracking humans. And humans have had it implanted already as well for this purpose.

Yes, but very short range.

2. The chip can be used to store all personal info health financial etc.

And the problem with that is?

3. The chip could be used as the sole monetary device for the planet. And banks are looking into its use.

More like a universal credit card. Again, don't really see a problem with this.

4. The spin is because the chip has been looked at to replace credit , debit cards and cash this could fit the
Biblical mark of the beast that prevents or allows people to buy or sell.

You might as well throw out your credit cards, the already have that power over you.

%. Even though the chip might save some lives from wrongly prescribed medications it could take millions more if it were to be used by a government like Nazi Germany for example ...to track down and murder any group or people it liked.:eek:

And yet the Nazi's did it rather efficiently without the chip. I don't see how not having the chip is going to stop this.

These are but a few of the facts but a basic synopsis of the video.

Not to mention paranoia and propaganda.
 
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I do not see any particular problems with the chip as it really is. I do see a problem with the lies told in this clip. I also see a problem with Carey ignoring the correction to the lies in the clip, which make him a liar too.

But then again, my experience is that creationists are generally not very good on the morality thingie, so it all works out.

I am ignoring a twist on the facts that make them seem to be lies. But ( some )evolutionists are easily swayed.

So it all works out.

The second video explains what was in the first is not lies.

But my psot just prior to this one explains the truth in the video.:doh:

Dont fear the truth it can set you free :wave:
 
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As pointed out already. :sigh:

The facts the video give are that the chip

1. is being used as a tracking device in animals now and can be used for tracking humans. And humans have had it implanted already as well for this purpose.
False. You can't track anyone with an RFID chip, it doesn't have a transmitter required for Tracking.
Also if this was true, the I could use it to find my dog that had one implanted in it, but unless the Dog is taken to a vet / pound that has a scanner & they scan the back of the neck, and they look up the ID Number that the chip returns, only then would I be able to find the dog.


2. The chip can be used to store all personal info health finacial etc.
False. the memory requirements are too much for the RFID chips to store all this information.
Also the financial information is live Data that is constantly updated, with no write access to the chip, it would always be out of date.



3. The chip could be used as the sole monitary device for the planet. And banks are looking into its use.
Wouldn't happen in this generation as the cost of the POS systems are still to high, the security is not there (too easy to hack), cost of implementing too high for the banks to swollow.


4. The spin is because the chip has been looked at to replace credit , debit cards and cash this could fit the
Biblical mark of the beast that prevents or allows people to buy or sell.
Just put it in the left hand (after all the Bible states it must be the Right hand or Forehead)


%. Even though the chip might save some lives from wrongly prescribed medications it could take millions more if it were to be used by a government like Nazi Germany for example ...to track down and murder any group or people it liked.:eek:

These are but a few of the facts but a basic synopsis of the video.

As stated, you can't track down people who are hiding even if they are implanted with the chip against there will.
 
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