Forgiveness ≠ License to Sin

[Grip Docility]

I sometimes wonder if touching yourself is actually a sin. I know in my youth I was never strong enough to resist lust and touching yourself was the only thing that actually got rid of it. Perhaps it’s the lesser of two evils? It’s extremely difficult to repent when your body is all charged up with these hormones that are designed to perpetuate reproduction and they don’t go away just because you want them to, no matter how much you try. If it is a sin I think it’s probably the lesser sin than other alternatives. I’m fortunate to be getting up there in my age that my drive isn’t as active as it used to be which is a blessing to me because I’m not as tempted anymore.

My father was a minister for 40 years. He had a man that was 95 write a prayer request to help him with his feelings of lust for his in home health care nurse.

All these years I’ve been thankful to know that this really happened. I’ve also felt confused if this should have been a prayer request or a praise.

 

[Grip Docility]

Sorry, your scriptures do not show that we are saved in our sins.

The wages of sin is death, Jesus gives us another option, but sadly many choose staying in the bondage of sin than being free in Christ.

If everyone was keeping the Ten Commandments- would we be slaves to the devil or would we be free?

The scriptures answers this question.

James 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.

What is the law of Liberty?

James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty.

We have two choices, we are either a servant of Christ or a servant to sin

Rom 6:16 16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Is our devil bigger than our God? That the devil can keep us in the bondage of sin more than Jesus can free us from sin through love and faith in Him 1 John 5:3 Exo 20:6 John 14:15 Rom 3:31 Rev 14:12 and His power John 14:15-18. Sad this is even a debate. We should be rejoicing that though the power of Jesus we can overcome - if we stumble and fall we have an Advocate in Jesus who is just and faithful to forgive us 1 John 1:9 but as the scripture says we must confess and forsake our sins Prov 28:13 a Christian should not be comfortable living in perpetual sin Heb 10:26. We can overcome and as stated the scriptures are filled with ways we can, we just have to have faith in them and to do them. I think we have more hearers than doers, but we are called to be doers. Rev 22:14

Romans 5:8 But God proves His own love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us!

1 John 1:8

Revelations 12
“Now have come the salvation and the power
and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Messiah.
For the accuser of our brothers and sisters,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.

 

[AlexB23]

This is not pointed at you but following that we have been enjoying positive dialogue here and there. I just was inspired to respond to your post because you brought up some pertinent points.

We all struggle. I have yet to meet a person in transgression of 1 John 1:8. I’ve met sinless doctrine folks that suggest we are to be perfect. It only takes a few scriptures to bring them to confession.

Many Christians… and I mean MANY think they are lost because of condemnation scripture misinterpretation.

Jesus died for sinners While they were yet sinners. That verse reassures us that we will struggle until we give up the ghost.

The church was supposed to be a place where the most ashamed of sinners could find love, acceptance and reassurance that struggle is normal for a lifetime. I.e. Being without sin and not an active sinner was never supposed to be a Body requirement.

Brick and Mortar establishments are supposed to be a Hospital for the broken (all of us)… not a museum for “Good People”. Only God is good.

The fact that there are so many that misquote Hebrews and 1 John out there has forced us to keep our dirt to ourselves and “fake it till we make it” in front of the visible Body. It was never supposed to be that way. We were supposed to be able to find comfort and reassurance in the presence of all brethren. No sin found in Moses was supposed to hold people from confessing one to another. The enemy has been hard at work to turn oasis's of comfort into establishments of fear and judgment. This goes forward to scare people away from joining that need a physical body. It is the single greatest cause of Atheism.

That is true, we all struggle. That is why I admit that I struggle with sin. Yes, many Christians misquote these scriptures, so that is why these devotionals will never be used to misquote scriptures. In fact, the most broken people should be the ones brought into our churches.

 

[Grip Docility]

That is true, we all struggle. That is why I admit that I struggle with sin. Yes, many Christians misquote these scriptures, so that is why these devotionals will never be used to misquote scriptures. In fact, the most broken people should be the ones brought into our churches.

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[AlexB23]

Does Phillipians 2:12-13 ESV fit in here anywhere?

Phil. 2:12-13ESV
12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, 13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.

Yep, this one fits in there as well. I could add it to my analysis, but I typically max out the verses at three or four passages, to allow the devotional to fit on a page in my word processor. So yes, all these devotionals are stored on my computer. For myself, I try my best to follow Christ's teachings.

 

[AlexB23]

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!

Amen to that. Sadly, many churches are afraid to have people with a lot of heavy baggage inside the building.

 

[Grip Docility]

Amen to that. Sadly, many churches are afraid to have people with a lot of heavy baggage inside the building.

It’s okay. We are also individual “Temples” of God. Those of us convicted to share His Love can do so. When we gather, we are a Body. However, we are indwelled by the High Priest’s Holy Spirit and He can Love through any of us who allow that Love to flow as He desires even when we are unaware.

 

[AlexB23]

It’s okay. We are also individual “Temples” of God. Those of us convicted to share His Love can do so. When we gather, we are a Body. However, we are indwelled by the High Priest’s Holy Spirit and He can Love through any of us who allow that Love to flow as He desires even when we are unaware.

Amen to this. We are Temples, according to 1 Corinthians 6:19-20.


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[SabbathBlessings]

Romans 5:8 But God proves His own love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us!

Amen! Jesus loves everyone and loves us so much He died for us while we were still sinners. But, Jesus clearly tells us not everyone will be saved, not everyone accepts this free gift because..

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness (Sin) rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

This is what the Ten Commandments does- it shows us our sins just like a mirror Romans 3:20 James 1:22-24 but sadly many people reject God's righteous Psa 119:172 way of living and depend on their own righteousness. Jesus gave us everything and asks for so little, yet people reject it, just like so many people did in scripture. What is foolish is believing we can follow the same path of disobedience but receive a different outcome. Jesus tells us we won't Mat 7:21-23 1 John 2:3-6 Rev 22:14-15

1 John 1:8

Revelations 12
“Now have come the salvation and the power
and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Messiah.
For the accuser of our brothers and sisters,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.

Yes, Satan is the accuser and Jesus promises to destroy Him and all sinners. I'm not sure why anyone would want to stay in darkness (sin) when the light is so much better. Jesus came to save us from our sins Mat 1:21 living in perpetual sin without overcoming through Jesus Christ John 14:115-18 is not the path to strive for Heb 10:26-30

 

[Grip Docility]

Amen! Jesus loves everyone and loves us so much He died for us while we were still sinners. But, Jesus clearly tells us not everyone will be saved, not everyone accepts this free gift because..

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness (Sin) rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

This is what the Ten Commandments does- it shows us our sins just like a mirror Romans 3:20 James 1:22-24 but sadly many people reject God's righteous Psa 119:172 way of living and depend on their own righteousness. Jesus gave us everything and asks for so little, yet people reject it, just like so many people did in scripture. What is foolish is believing we can follow the same path of disobedience but receive a different outcome. Jesus tells us we won't Mat 7:21-23 1 John 2:3-6 Rev 22:14-15


Yes, Satan is the accuser and Jesus promises to destroy Him and all sinners. I'm not sure why anyone would want to stay in darkness (sin) when the light is so much better. Jesus came to save us from our sins Mat 1:21 living in perpetual sin without overcoming through Jesus Christ John 14:115-18 is not the path to strive for Heb 10:26-30

What is Hebrews chapter 1 about in brief summary?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

What is Hebrews chapter 1 about in brief summary?

Not about living in perpetual sin and disobeying God.

 

[Grip Docility]

Amen! Jesus loves everyone and loves us so much He died for us while we were still sinners. But, Jesus clearly tells us not everyone will be saved, not everyone accepts this free gift because..
...
Yes, Satan is the accuser and Jesus promises to destroy Him and all sinners. I'm not sure why anyone would want to stay in darkness (sin) when the light is so much better. Jesus came to save us from our sins Mat 1:21 living in perpetual sin without overcoming through Jesus Christ John 14:115-18 is not the path to strive for Heb 10:26-30

Not about living in perpetual sin and disobeying God.

?

What is Hebrews chapter 1 about in brief summary?

 

[HIM]

Jesus will always continue to forgive us,

Not if we are continuing in the act.

 

[Grip Docility]

Not if we are continuing in the act.

1 John 1:8 ?

 

[HIM]

What is Hebrews chapter 1 about in brief summary?

Do you mean 10?

 

[Grip Docility]

Do you mean 10?

No Sir. Hebrews Chapter 1. The foundation of the book of Hebrews. What is a main summary of it's message? The opening salvo of the entire book, so to speak.

 

[HIM]

1 John 1:8 ?

It says if f we assent to our sin he is faithful and just to forgive us our sin and CLEANSE us from all unrighteousness. And it also says the following....

1John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

 

[Grip Docility]

It says if f we assent to our sin he is faithful and just to forgive us our sin and CLEANSE us from all unrighteousness. And it also says the following....

1John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Galatians 2:21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain

Galatians 3:10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” 11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God

 

[SabbathBlessings]

1 John 1:8 ?

Everyone has sinned (past tense) is doesn't mean through Jesus we can't overcome. He tells us He has a people who does- Rev 14:12 He came to save us from our sins Mat 1:21, not in them. It's a matter of who we yield ourselves servants to obey Rom 6:16

 

[HIM]

No Sir. Hebrews Chapter 1. The foundation of the book of Hebrews. What is a main summary of it's message? The opening salvo of the entire book, so to speak.

The Book of Hebrews builds on this:
Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;