Forgive

[Maria Billingsley]

never heard that before what do you mean by suffering was the buddha's biggest complaint?

Buddhism is all about conquering pain and suffering. Maybe watch a video about the prince who left his palace to find the answer to suffering. This is Buddha and he came up with an answer. There is no God.
Blessings.

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

What a blackpill.

Buddhism is all about conquering pain and suffering. Maybe watch a video about the prince who left his palace to find the answer to suffering. This is Buddha and he came up with an answer. There is no God.
Blessings.

 

[BeyondET]

Buddhism is all about conquering pain and suffering. Maybe watch a video about the prince who left his palace to find the answer to suffering. This is Buddha and he came up with an answer. There is no God.
Blessings.

Well he did go into a cave to seek spiritual understanding by fasting on one grain of rice and urine but he got so thin almost died and realized that wasn't a wise move.

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

and realized that wasn't a wise move.

There's hope!

 

[Maria Billingsley]

What a blackpill.

Not sure what you mean by a black pill but I will say that Siddhartha Gautama developed a flesh driven way to conquer suffering. This is why the OP is asking how it can be possible that Jesus Christ of Nazareth had to shed blood (suffer) in order to pay for our sins. It does not compute in Buddhism.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Well he did go into a cave to seek spiritual understanding by fasting on one grain of rice and urine but he got so thin almost died and realized that wasn't a wise move.

Actually according to Buddhism he reached enlightenment. He did this under a tree.

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

Not sure what you mean by a black pill but I will say that Siddhartha Gautama developed a flesh driven way to conquer suffering. This is why the OP is asking how it can be possible that Jesus Christ of Nazareth had to shed blood (suffer) in order to pay for our sins. It does not compute in Buddhism.

Is the OP Buddhist?
Blackpill=doomer. Without God we wouldn't have this convo. All that is left is the void, not even the void bc the void is a nothing in contrast to something.

 

[BeyondET]

Actually according to Buddhism he reached enlightenment. He did this under a tree.

when he came out of the caves that he spent a lot time in, yes the enlightenment it wasn't wise to starve yourself.

if it wasn't then many Buddhist would be paper thin.

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

when he came out of the caves that he spent a lot time in, yes the enlightenment it wasn't wise to starve yourself.

if it wasn't then many Buddhist would be paper thin.

Aren't most popular statues of Buddha fat? Honestly asking.

 

[BeyondET]

Aren't most popular statues of Buddha fat? Honestly asking.

here is how the enlightenment happened, the daughter of the local village headman,spontaneously made him an offering, a bowl of sweetened rice cooked in condensed milk. It was this meal that gave Siddhartha the strength to sit under the Bodhi tree and awaken

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

here is how the enlightenment happened, the daughter of the local village headman,spontaneously made him an offering, a bowl of sweetened rice cooked in condensed milk. It was this meal that gave Siddhartha the strength to sit under the Bodhi tree and awaken

That sounds delicious.

 

[BeyondET]

That sounds delicious.

the fatness is a representation of abundance from what i have read.

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

the fatness is a representation of abundance from what i have read.

Where did the abundance come from if not suffering?

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

Where did the abundance come from if not suffering?

@BeyondET , the rice that Buddha ate was provided for him by the death and decay of animals and the sweat and toil of humans and beasts.

 

[BeyondET]

@BeyondET , the rice that Buddha ate was provided for him by the death and decay of animals and the sweat and toil of humans and beasts.

no it was his choice to do so, a choice that wasn't wise.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Is the OP Buddhist?
Blackpill=doomer. Without God we wouldn't have this convo. All that is left is the void, not even the void bc the void is a nothing in contrast to something.

Yes the OP is Buddhist. We are in the Christian seeker forum so I believe it is good to point out the other sides point of view or belief in relation to Christianity.

 

[BeyondET]

Where did the abundance come from if not suffering?

you could be on to something,

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

no it was his choice to do so, a choice that wasn't wise.

The rice didn't come from heaven, did it? If it came from the earth, it was produced ala suffering.

 

[Thatgirloncfforums]

Yes the OP is Buddhist. We are in the Christian seeker forum so I believe it is good to point out the other sides point of view or belief in relation to Christianity.

Ah. Yes. I see. Hi! to the OP. Welcome! @Tellyontellyon

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Jesus said:
“This, then, is how you should pray:
Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,
your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us today our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one."

He tells us simply to forgive.. no price has to be paid... we just let go.

But, for salvation, this view that in order to forgive, someone's blood must be spilt...
Why can't God simply let go and forgive... simply let go of the 'debt' as Jesus instructed.

It's not just about forgiveness. It's about a change in nature, and the rules that govern it. (The metaphysics of God, of salvation etc.)



Romans 5:12-21
New International Version

Death Through Adam, Life Through Christ
12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—

13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. 14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.

15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! 16 Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification. 17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!

18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. 19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

20 The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.