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If that were the case then babies born at 20 weeks must just be faking...and science cannot measure whether a fetus feels pain or not..heck they used to think that a full term infant could not feel the pain of a circumsion..guess the baby was just putting on when he would squall...anything that lives can feel pain...A fetus at 15 weeks has an immature but fully formed brain...A fetus at twelve weeks is fully formed and about the size of a human palm.EvolvEarth said:Fetuses earlier than 28 weaks into pregnancy do not feel pain.
I hope you realize that there has to be pain sensors connected to the brain for the fetus to actually feel pain. Since they're not even fully developed, there's no reason to believe they feel pain.water_ripple said:If that were the case then babies born at 20 weeks must just be faking...and science cannot measure whether a fetus feels pain or not..heck they used to think that a full term infant could not feel the pain of a circumsion..guess the baby was just putting on when he would squall...anything that lives can feel pain...A fetus at 15 weeks has an immature but fully formed brain...A fetus at twelve weeks is fully formed and about the size of a human palm.
Yes, pain is the issue. You see, the Jews were already alive and had experience life. You're basically take life away from a person that wants to live. A fetus has no desires because it's in a very immature state before 28 weeks of pregnancy. I'm against abortion after the 28 weeks unless there's an emergency that is taking place.InnerPhyre said:Is pain really the issue here? Would a "painless" abortion be any more ethical? If the Nazis had used lethal injection over ovens and gas chambers, would they have been less guilty? I can't help but wonder if in 100 years, our great grandchildren will look back on our times and weep in shame for what's going on now.
So you are for abortion before the 28 week point? Why? So you can go out and live permiscuously with no fear of the resposibility of caring for that which you willingly created? This is why the Democrats cater to people 30 years old and under. Irresponsible voters make good pawns. No slam on those under 30 that actually have a sense of responsibility.EvolvEarth said:Yes, pain is the issue. You see, the Jews were already alive and had experience life. You're basically take life away from a person that wants to live. A fetus has no desires because it's in a very immature state before 28 weeks of pregnancy. I'm against abortion after the 28 weeks unless there's an emergency that is taking place.
If this is all of your ability to reason I wouldn't let you boil a pot of water.draper said:These abortion arguments are kinda silly, it's a lot like saying that you should have sex at every possible oportunity, because then you're giving more people a chance to live. Its also a lot like saying that if a married couple doesn't have sex every time the women is fertile, they're denying a child the chance to live and are evil people for doing so.
Why are you assuming things about me that are not even true? If I were to have sex, and I never had sex, I would use protection. You're assuming people are prochoice simply because they want to use it as a method of birth control. Many people see abortion as the last possible resource. Not everyone that has an abortion are irresponsible, perhaps their protection failed or they were raped.Vxer1000 said:So you are for abortion before the 28 week point? Why? So you can go out and live permiscuously with no fear of the resposibility of caring for that which you willingly created? This is why the Democrats cater to people 30 years old and under. Irresponsible voters make good pawns. No slam on those under 30 that actually have a sense of responsibility.
Preventing pregnancy and terminating an already existing pregnancy cannot even be compared. That is where your logic is flawed.These abortion arguments are kinda silly, it's a lot like saying that you should have sex at every possible oportunity, because then you're giving more people a chance to live. Its also a lot like saying that if a married couple doesn't have sex every time the women is fertile, they're denying a child the chance to live and are evil people for doing so.
How come?msjones21 said:Preventing pregnancy and terminating an already existing pregnancy cannot even be compared.
How come? How can you even ask that? That's like saying installing a security system in your home and shooting anyone who comes on your property are one and the same. One is a preventative measure, the other is killing a human being.How come?
I have no problem with people believing what they want to believe, but I find it highly offensive when someone compares something as small as birth control to killing an unborn baby.just let people believe what they want to believe.
One is a preventative measure, the other is killing a human being.
An unfertalized egg is without life...surely you know this?burrow_owl said:Sperm and eggs are both alive, though. Is it that they don't have the requisite number of chromosomes?
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What does that mean? To be "without life"?sweetkitty said:An unfertalized egg is without life...surely you know this?
Swung on and missed. I'm guessing, Dr. Zoidberg, that this has something to do with the number of angels that can fit on the head of a pin, but it's hard to tell.An unfertalized egg is without life.
Oh yeah! Thanks for educating me. I must be wrong about the fact that abortion is a money making industry and murder is murder, no matter what medical tag someone puts on a fetus.EvolvEarth said:Why are you assuming things about me that are not even true? If I were to have sex, and I never had sex, I would use protection. You're assuming people are prochoice simply because they want to use it as a method of birth control. Many people see abortion as the last possible resource. Not everyone that has an abortion are irresponsible, perhaps their protection failed or they were raped.
My friend had a baby before 28 weeks..It was obvious that the baby felt more than just lethargy.EvolvEarth said:I hope you realize that there has to be pain sensors connected to the brain for the fetus to actually feel pain. Since they're not even fully developed, there's no reason to believe they feel pain.
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