Flying Spaghetti Monster

[bhsmte]

I've maintained that I have no absolute proof. The unwise will always be with us.

Who are you labeling 'unwise'? Be specific please.

 

[bhsmte]

Of coarse not.

Your posts say otherwise.

 

[Colter]

Your posts say otherwise.

Logic isn't the domain of religion although to the one who has genuine faith religion seems entirely logical. No, rather logic is a hiding place, an excuse for the spiritually slothful ego.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I've maintained that I have no absolute proof. The unwise will always be with us.

-_- disagreeing with you does not make them unwise.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Logic isn't the domain of religion although to the one who has genuine faith religion seems entirely logical. No, rather logic is a hiding place, an excuse for the spiritually slothful ego.

I wouldn't consider logical discourse and thought to be lazy, although I agree that it can lead quite a few people to question faith based beliefs

 

[bhsmte]

Logic isn't the domain of religion although to the one who has genuine faith religion seems entirely logical. No, rather logic is a hiding place, an excuse for the spiritually slothful ego.

Would you say acknowledging objective verifiable evidence is logical?

 

[Colter]

Who are you labeling 'unwise'? Be specific please.

I think life itself is frankly super-natural, I think God is so obvious that it can be blinding to people who rationalize away their heavenly creator by pretending to adhere only to mathematically, scientifically verifiable, cold logic.

So its you who I think is unwise, you saw the imperfections of religion so rather than reform your theology you left it and joined another kind of faith, then returned to promote your new unbelief.

 

[Colter]

Would you say acknowledging objective verifiable evidence is logical?

Yes, in the field of scientific endeavor I would.

 

[Colter]

I wouldn't consider logical discourse and thought to be lazy, although I agree that it can lead quite a few people to question faith based beliefs

Suit yourself Sarah, as long as you find faults with the God concept for just that long you don't have to do the work.

 

[FoxyRoxy]

No, because you are siding with Atheist in their battle against God, you have a Christian label on your page. Was thinking you were Christian.

If anyone is making Christians look bad it's you.

 

[Colter]

If anyone is making Christians look bad it's you.

Speaking the truth isn't a popularity contest, but at least you will find favor with unbelievers. I still notice that you haven't responded to the OP, rather you have wasted the opportunity to criticize mine.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Suit yourself Sarah, as long as you find faults with the God concept for just that long you don't have to do the work.

The most basic concept of a deity I have no issue with, I just need more than just foundation less claims to believe something exists. However, when people start to get exceedingly specific with their concept of a deity, which curiously never seems to conflict with the desires of the speakers, I take that in with a bucket of salt.

 

[Colter]

The most basic concept of a deity I have no issue with, I just need more than just foundation less claims to believe something exists. However, when people start to get exceedingly specific with their concept of a deity, which curiously never seems to conflict with the desires of the speakers, I take that in with a bucket of salt.

I agree with that Sarah, the transitional paradox with faith is that one has to want it, they have to take the action. With that said if we are both searching and finding we will each have our own experience, form our own concepts. Unity not uniformity.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I agree with that Sarah, the transitional paradox with faith is that one has to want it, they have to take the action. With that said if we are both searching and finding we will each have our own experience, form our own concepts. Unity not uniformity.

I every time I hear someone describe god essentially having the same morals as they do. Any deity would be a separate being from said individual, there would have to be some amount of disagreement, even if it was very small. I have no issue with generalized belief in deities; not sure what comfort people get out of their ambiguous objects of worship though. The only issue I see with it is basic motivation: what's the point of worshipping something when you yourself know you have no idea what said being wants or how much they interact with the world (*imagines deity online, blocking everyone*)? I view worship and belief as separate, by the way. After all, you can believe something exists without worshipping it; we don't worship chairs after all.

 

[bhsmte]

I think life itself is frankly super-natural, I think God is so obvious that it can be blinding to people who rationalize away their heavenly creator by pretending to adhere only to mathematically, scientifically verifiable, cold logic.

So its you who I think is unwise, you saw the imperfections of religion so rather than reform your theology you left it and joined another kind of faith, then returned to promote your new unbelief.

Ok. I am unwise, because I disagree with what your personal perceptions are and I decide to acknowledge objective verifiable evidence.

Gotcha!

 

[keith99]

what? because I adhere to simple rules of logic I am unable to join your club?

Rejoice when evil men vilify you!

Be glad you live in the times you do, your call for the use of 'simple rules of logic' reminds me all too much of the defense of certain heretics. Men who often died by being burnt alive after saying they would gladly recant their heretical beliefs so long as they could be shown their error from Scripture and plain reasoning.

Problem was they could not. Or so Foxe's book of Martyrs reports.

 

[bhsmte]

Speaking the truth isn't a popularity contest, but at least you will find favor with unbelievers. I still notice that you haven't responded to the OP, rather you have wasted the opportunity to criticize mine.

Indeed.

Comforting lies or uncomfortable truths are abound.

Of course, some people determine what the truth is a bit differently.

 

[TheImmortalJellyfish]

 

[TheImmortalJellyfish]

Sorry...can't figure out how to delete a post...noob, here...

 

[Chesterton]

Sorry...can't figure out how to delete a post...noob, here...

You can't completely delete it. You can click on "Edit" then just erase all the text but it requires at least one character. People sometimes just put a period "." or put "nm" for never mind. Welcome to CF.