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And water into wine
Again, your writings appear evasive, so it is hard to understand what you are saying. It sure seemed to me that you were suggesting that light traveled faster than the current speed of light in order to make it to Earth in 6000 years.
If this is not what you were hinting at with your evasive answer, what were you hinting at?
Again, we know that light got to the earth from stars that are millions of lightyears away. If the Earth is 6000 years old how did that light manage to get to Earth?
I think the poster Dad did used to claim that light travelled faster before... was it the Flood? Something regarding Pelagios (I think) and a split? I'm not sure on th details but I think it was him who used to make that sort of claim.
Yes, of course, I can walk on a frozen lake in a blizzard. Can't you?And no raging storm?
Yes, of course, I can walk on a frozen lake in a blizzard. Can't you?
I don't see how any of that relates to God walking on water...during a storm? It would be no big deal to God.Then test it yourself, if you're so scientifically-minded.
Just alert your next-of-kin you won't be home tonight, because you are going to employ the scientific method to a Bible verse.
Some people who talk big science get put in their place at times, don't they?
Correct.
It was dad who spoke of a "distant state past," where the laws of physics were different prior to "the split in Peleg's time."
Remember Split Rock?
He made this up concerning us:
Two creationists take a Commercial flight
AV1611VET: How do we know that the flight crew knows how to fly this plane?
Flight Attendant: They are trained experts and have been doing this for many years.
Dad: All because they are so-called experts doesnt mean they can ignore Gods Word.
Flight Attendant: What does Gods Word have to do with flying an airplane?
AV1611VET: I use my Boolean Standards to show that flying is against The Inerrant Word of God and The Documentation.
Flight Attendant: Are you talking about The Bible? Where does The Bible say that?
AV1611VET: Thinking themselves to be wise they became fools.
Flight Attendant: What does that have to do with flying?
AV1611VET: Homo sapiens means Wise Man, doesnt it? Since the flight crew are Wise Men they are really fools and God will show them they are fools by crashing the plane.
Flight Attendant: What???
Dad: How do these Ivory Tower so-called experts know they can fly this plane between here and the destination? What if the atmosphere between here and the destination is in a different state?
Flight Attendant: Different State?? What do you mean??
Dad: A different state. Like it was before The Split.
Flight Attendant: What Split?
Dad: During the time of Peleg. To think differently, is anti-Bible hogwash and a fantasy!
Flight Attendant: What are you talking about?
Dad: You cannot prove that the space-time state between here and there is not different can you?
Flight Attendant: No, but we have never had any problem flying this route before..
Dad: Ha! You just ASSUME there is no difference now, because you assume the past is the key to the present. That is an Anti-God Lie, and thinking only within the box.. I refuse to accept it!!!
Flight Attendant Please, both of you take your seats!
AV1611VET: You just cant wait to ridicule me, even though I accept 95% of your science!
Dad: I just discovered that human flight is impossible! Amazing!!
Flight Attendant: Please, take your seats so we can take off! I promise it is safe!
AV1611VET: Oh yeah.. just like Thalidomide was a Wonder Drug before it was Plutoed!
Flight Attendant: Thalidomide?
AV1611VET: Sure, Thaldomide proves that your science changes with the flavor of the week!
Dad: Prove with your so called science that the state between here and there is the same! You cant!!!! Human flight is an anti-Bible lie! Amazing!
Flight Attendant: Get off this plane!!!
science tells us that it can take anything up to ten months to do.Vintners turn water into wine all the time. They just use grape vines, grape presses, and fermenting vats to do it.
science tells us that it can take anything up to ten months to do.
How long did Jesus take? (John 2: 6-9)
It would be if irrelevance and derail attempts were ignoredFour verses in a book about a guy who is claimed to be god doesn't really seem like much in the way of evidence.
Aside: Is this thread still about floods, geology, and the nexus between?
So far nobody has tried to refute Doubting Merle's opening post, the one that demonstrates that flood geology cannot explain the observed successions of rocks and fossils. This fact appears to confirm Merle's assertion that creationists have effectively abandoned flood geology.It would be if irrelevance and derail attempts were ignored
So far nobody has tried to refute Doubting Merle's opening post, the one that demonstrates that flood geology cannot explain the observed successions of rocks and fossils. This fact appears to confirm Merle's assertion that creationists have effectively abandoned flood geology.
If you don't mind, I have a follow up question related to our dinosaur discussion from last night.God cleaned up the mess.
And He does things:
Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
So if He put trilobites at the bottom and then sprinkled dinosaur bones over them, that's His prerogative.
In short, He didn't make a garden salad, He made an atomic cake.
If you don't mind, I have a follow up question related to our dinosaur discussion from last night.
I'm wondering the time line for when God cleaned up the mess after the Flood and the die out of the dinosaurs. Here it's sounding like God did the clean up after the demise of the dinosaurs, which was guessed as about 100 years after the Flood. And than after that God spread some dinosaur bones about in nice layers? Do I have that right?
Something there doesn't look right to me. Are you suggesting that God spread the Rex bones about 100 years of so "after" He cleaned up His mess?Let's use T Rex as an example.
It's time for the Flood.
Mr & Mrs T Rex board the Ark.
The Flood comes and goes.
God cleans up the mess, line upon line.
The door to the Ark is opened and Mr & Mrs Rex disembark.
They go their way, have kids, flourish for awhile, then go extinct after a period of time.
My wife is a Sagan. But when I tested my son he was only 3% middle Eastern blood. Still, he is pretty smart. Neil Degrasse Tyson has taken over for Sagan and he is doing very well in educating people.But with all due respect sir, you are no Carl Sagan.
Wormholes. Billions of wormholes. Billions and billion of wormholes. That's it?And even if they [wormholes] were mathematically impossible, they would still exist if God so willed them to.
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Can scientists spot an angel, if one showed up at one of their parties?
Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
Something there doesn't look right to me.
Are you suggesting that God spread the Rex bones about 100 years of so "after" He cleaned up His mess?
OK. So God layered the dinosaur bones upon cleanup right after the Flood. He seems to have layered them to make it appear that is was way older than 65million years ago that they died. Is that correct? And during the clean up I can't help but wonder about the other animals who were layered in strata above the dinosaur to make them appear far younger in time. Do you have any insight on that timeline??
Not at all.
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