Fleeing to Mars not of God

[ViaCrucis]

Yes, some things are not to be taken out of the clear context they were given, such as someone thinking communion is about eating a man. Genesis however is clear and the context is that He created it all.

Just so we're clear, your position is that when Jesus takes bread and declares that this bread is His body, and takes wine, and says this wine is His own blood, He doesn't actually mean what He says. But when Genesis says there was evening and morning without a sun, that has to be taken literally and if someone doesn't, then they don't believe the Bible.

I'm understanding you correctly, yes?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[truthpls]

But that's not what you wrote.

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[partinobodycular]

One who can read His word and agrees it is the way to tell good from bad

And that really, really scares me. You do realize the amount of evil that's been perpetrated in the name of that book, especially by people like you who were absolutely certain that they were right. Coupled with humility that book is indeed a very useful thing, but couple it with arrogance and there's no telling what atrocities people will commit.

This has been a discussion about the merits and ethics of chicken little earth evacuation attempts.

That's just a pretext for you espousing your own personal disdain for anything that you deem to be going against your divinely inspired interpretation of scripture. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with trying to colonize Mars... misguided perhaps, even stupid, but we're humans, that's pretty much what we do.

Time you admit either that we are right to look to Scripture, or that you have no way of knowing right from wrong whether you care or not

You're free to look wherever the heck you wanna look, but nobody actually needs the bible in order to discern right from wrong. A simple love for their fellow man is sufficient for that.

 

[truthpls]

Most human beings are NOT believers!

Right, which is more reason that he may be correct on that.

 

[truthpls]

Just so we're clear, your position is that when Jesus takes bread and declares that this bread is His body, and takes wine, and says this wine is His own blood, He doesn't actually mean what He says.

Correct. Wine represents His blood, the bread His body. Unless you think that when He said He was the bread of life, that He was some sort of walking bread loaf? Maybe He was actually a cup of water as well since He is the water? Maybe you think He never moved because He was the gate, or that He moved very little because He was a door?

But when Genesis says there was evening and morning without a sun, that has to be taken literally and if someone doesn't, then they don't believe the Bible.

Yes. Toss that out and the rest of the book slowly gets tossed out as well.

 

[truthpls]

And that really, really scares me. You do realize the amount of evil that's been perpetrated in the name of that book, especially by people like you who were absolutely certain that they were right.

No. If people believed they would perpetuate good. A tree is known by it's fruits.

Coupled with humility that book is indeed a very useful thing, but couple it with arrogance and there's no telling what atrocities people will commit.

The water from heaven, the word of God is useful for a lot more than people think

That's just a pretext for you espousing your own personal disdain for anything that you deem to be going against your divinely inspired interpretation of scripture.

Easy to expose that whining as false. Make a bible case about the topic? Ha

There's nothing intrinsically wrong with trying to colonize Mars... misguided perhaps, even stupid, but we're humans, that's pretty much what we do.

So no one should question the trillions spent on space etc?

You're free to look wherever the heck you wanna look, but nobody actually needs the bible in order to discern right from wrong.

Yes they do. For example, it says we are not to believe everyone, every spirit unless they do confess Jesus is the Christ. Do you?

A simple love for their fellow man is sufficient for that.

Man's ability and power to love is like a mostly dead little battery compared to the sun of power He gives us to love. So our own 'simple love' is not sufficient at all.

 

[partinobodycular]

it says we are not to believe everyone, every spirit unless they do confess Jesus is the Christ. Do you?

Why do you think that this cross has been hanging around my neck for fifty years?

 

[truthpls]

Why do you think that this cross has been hanging around my neck for fifty years?

Great, so you should know that everyone that does not confess Jesus came in the flesh is not of God. It threw me when you talked about people believing God being the ones who caused evil. Jesus killed no one. His followers are like that.

 

[partinobodycular]

Great, so you should know that everyone that does not confess Jesus came in the flesh is not of God.

Nope, I don't believe that at all. You said it yourself, you'll know them by their fruit. We wouldn't want to forget Matt. 7:21. Words are just words. Next thing that you know you'll be demanding that people speak in tongues and take up snakes.

 

[truthpls]

Nope, I don't believe that at all. You said it yourself, you'll know them by their fruit. We wouldn't want to forget Matt. 7:21. Words are just words. Next thing that you know you'll be demanding that people speak in tongues and take up snakes.

Wild fantasy

 

[d taylor]

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When will the lies get too big for humanity to believe, does not look that this is it.

 

[truthpls]

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When will the lies get too big for humanity to believe, does not look that this is it.

It may not be the mother of all sins, but it is something that is happening and worthy of having an opinion on

 

[d taylor]

It may not be the mother of all sins, but it is something that is happening and worthy of having an opinion on

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Nothing is happening but people believing space lies.

 

[truthpls]

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Nothing is happening but people believing space lies.

Nothing to see here?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Correct. Wine represents His blood, the bread His body. Unless you think that when He said He was the bread of life, that He was some sort of walking bread loaf? Maybe He was actually a cup of water as well since He is the water? Maybe you think He never moved because He was the gate, or that He moved very little because He was a door?

Yes. Toss that out and the rest of the book slowly gets tossed out as well.

Makes perfect sense. We shouldn't take Jesus seriously, but if a rib wasn't literally pulled out of Adam's body in order for a woman to exist, then boy howdy, everything falls apart. It's important to have healthy priorities. I mean, it's not like Jesus or His Eucharist was ever important for Christianity.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Hans Blaster]

Nothing to see here?

Some people think the Earth is flat.

 

[d taylor]

Some people think the Earth is flat.

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And stationary

 

[truthpls]

Makes perfect sense. We shouldn't take Jesus seriously,

Taking Jesus seriously does not mean we think He was a wooden door.

but if a rib wasn't literally pulled out of Adam's body in order for a woman to exist, then boy howdy, everything falls apart.

He is not a liar. It is obvious that the wine and bread represented His sacrifice, body and blood.

It's important to have healthy priorities. I mean, it's not like Jesus or His Eucharist was ever important for Christianity.

-CryptoLutheran

Do this often in remembrance of me, He said. That does not mean cannibalism or drinking blood. It means remembering Jesus and what He did for us. Trying too use that as an excuse to not believe Genesis is cheap and phoney

 

[truthpls]

Some people think the Earth is flat.

Right, and some think God is not returning to earth. The bible never said the earth was flat, it did say He is returning.

 

[Hans Blaster]

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And stationary

There is no help I can offer you in your error.