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Maybe if you had a friend in China you could trust, have him call you when the sun is overhead at 12pm his time and see if the sun is up where you live.
Because those that believe in a globe insist that China is on the opposite side of the globe than us. If they are on the opposite side of the globe than you are and it is night time there, while you are experiencing day time where you are at, maybe, just maybe, the earth if a globe. There are times where the sun has set here in North Carolina and it is night time here and yet it is still day light in Thousand Oaks, California.Why China?
-CryptoLutheran
I have heard that they have some sort of explanation for that, but I have never heard what it was. Curious.Maybe they could ask people in the UK to point out the Southern Cross. And those in Australia to look out for the North Star. If the world is flat then they should all be visible to everyone. You can explain why they aren't.
And then someone in the UK can take a picture of a full moon. Then someone in Australia can do the same. And then you can tell us why one picture is upside down compared to the other.
Very good point.Maybe they could ask people in the UK to point out the Southern Cross. And those in Australia to look out for the North Star. If the world is flat then they should all be visible to everyone. You can explain why they aren't.
And then someone in the UK can take a picture of a full moon. Then someone in Australia can do the same. And then you can tell us why one picture is upside down compared to the other.
He points out that at sufficient altitudes the curve of the Earth is visible to the naked eye.Tom McNamara on Quora was not intending to make an argument in favor of a flat earth but was pointing out the inadequacy of the method,
Because those that believe in a globe insist that China is on the opposite side of the globe than us. If they are on the opposite side of the globe than you are and it is night time there, while you are experiencing day time where you are at, maybe, just maybe, the earth if a globe. There are times where the sun has set here in North Carolina and it is night time here and yet it is still day light in Thousand Oaks, California.
Who said anything about digging a hole to China? That's a ridiculous conclusion. I am talking about talking, on the phone, to someone in China. Someone you trust. If you live on the east coast, try calling a friend in California about 10pm and you find out the sun is out and is still shining there. And who said anything about you making a wrong turn at Albuquerque? If you don't have a friend in China you can trust, then call a friend in Europe you can trust. At 4pm Eastern Time call someone in Germany and ask them if the sun has set. Heck, you could do it with Iphone Face Time. it may be fun to give it a try.Did you get reality and Looney Toons confused?
There are people all over the globe participating on these forums. I've had conversations with people all over the globe. I don't need to dig a hole to China because I made a wrong turn at Albuquerque to ask them anything.
Holy cow man.
-CryptoLutheran
Who said anything about digging a hole to China? That's a ridiculous conclusion. I am talking about talking, on the phone, to someone in China.
Someone you trust. If you live on the east coast, try calling a friend in California about 10pm and you find out the sun is out and is still shining there. And who said anything about you making a wrong turn at Albuquerque? If you don't have a friend in China you can trust, then call a friend in Europe you can trust. At 4pm Eastern Time call someone in Germany and ask them if the sun has set. Heck, you could do it with Iphone Face Time. it may be fun to give it a try.
It gets worse. I've noted since childhood that the moon always follows any car in which I'm riding. Does this support Jipsah-centric view of the universe?When I'm driving on the highway I observe that the mountains and trees are moving. Therefore, the mountains and the trees are moving.
-CryptoLutheran
This reminds me of David Letterman's description of the plot of "Twister" (a film about storm chasers in Oklahoma with a recent sequel "Twisters"). It went something like this: "It is a film about these people who get followed by a tornado. Everywhere they go it comes for them."It gets worse. I've noted since childhood that the moon always follows any car in which I'm riding. Does this support Jipsah-centric view of the universe?
Done done it, with kinfolk in both Denmark. Korea, and California, as well as mates in England (Come On You Lions!) The time zones appear to be plotted about right, seven hours between here (Nashville) and Aarhus, 14 hours between here and Inchon, 2 hours difference between here and Torrance, and 5 twixt here and Greenwich. Amazing coincidence, innit? Doesn't really hold up well between here and Atlanta, you can buy gas in Jasper TN at 3pm, drive for 15 minutes to Chattanooga a it's now a 4:15. Gotta draw the lines somewhere...Maybe if you had a friend in China you could trust, have him call you when the sun is overhead at 12pm his time and see if the sun is up where you live.
Had a white relative (Cousin A ) who had that happen. Lived just outside Hartsville,TN. "It came up a cloud" as they say in rural Tennessee, so he headed to the house to avoid the expected downpour. He heard the dreaded "freight train" sound, and saw a full-grown tornado headed towards both the barn and his house. He ran out, jumped into his car, and drove to our mutual cousin's (Cousin B) house, where he had just enough time to tell Cousin B about his narrow escape when they both heard the infamous freight train, and saw what was presumably the same tornado headed their way.This reminds me of David Letterman's description of the plot of "Twister" (a film about storm chasers in Oklahoma with a recent sequel "Twisters". It went something like this: "It is a film about these people who get followed by a tornado. Everywhere they go it comes for them."
That's quite the story. I was worried about going off topic, but this is a flat earth thread. (Not sure if the flat earth has tornadoes...)Had a white relative (Cousin A ) who had that happen. Lived just outside Hartsville,TN. "It came up a cloud" as they say in rural Tennessee, so he headed to the house to avoid the expected downpour. He heard the dreaded "freight train" sound, and saw a full-grown tornado headed towards both the barn and his house. He ran out, jumped into his car, and drove to our mutual cousin's (Cousin B) house, where he had just enough time to tell Cousin B about his narrow escape when they both heard the infamous freight train, and saw what was presumably the same tornado headed their way.
The good news was that it veered off and wandered off through woods and farmland and didn't do anyone any substantial damage after that, and it had missed both houses. The bad news was it did tear apart Cousin A's barn. No livestock injured, though).
Cousin A did suffer endless abuse after the fact, mostly concerning his attracting tornadoes, which would follow him around, and his possession of a specially equipped tornado car designed to outrun any twister. My English mates believe they're the masters at "taking the... micky", but your average Tennessee redneck loves the game as much as any Saff Londoner does,.
Who said anything about digging a hole to China? That's a ridiculous conclusion. I am talking about talking, on the phone, to someone in China. Someone you trust. If you live on the east coast, try calling a friend in California about 10pm and you find out the sun is out and is still shining there.
Oh yeah. I used to have a school system in Aukland NZ that had our voice suystems. The standard joke was when we sent them an e-mail it took 23 hours to get there. but theirs got to us the day before they sent them.Do this literally every few days with work - me in Australia, people in the US, Europe, India and various parts of Asia. Everyone on different timezones. Trying to swing my regular call with two people - one in the US and one in Spain is always fun.
Well duhThe earth is level.
Or to be really precise: Normal to the surfaces of equal effective gravitational potential. (The effective potential includes the effects of rotation.)Well duh
We've explained multiple times that "level" is equidistant from the centre of the Earth
Well duh
We've explained multiple times that "level" is equidistant from the centre of the Earth
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