Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

[Apple Sky]

So where does Genesis 1 tell us what shape the earth is?

It doesn't but if you go further into scripture it does.

 

[Apple Sky]

There's also the fact that he said - on film - that people should go to Antarctica to find out the truth about a 24-hour sun. "If it's there; the earth is a globe".

And what makes you think he would go with a bunch of scam artists ? I reckon Dean knew more than he was letting on.

 

[David Lamb]

It doesn't but if you go further into scripture it does.

But you wrote "Yes" in answer to this question from Strong in Him: "What does the Bible teach us from Genesis 1? That GOD created the earth - end of. Does it say what shape that earth is/was?" He was specifically asking about Genesis 1.

 

[David Lamb]

And what makes you think he would go with a bunch of scam artists ? I reckon Dean knew more than he was letting on.

So those amongst them who believed in a flat earth were scam artists too?

 

[Apple Sky]

So those amongst them who believed in a flat earth were scam artists too?

Most definitely, watch the video by Dean, you can't dispute it.

 

[David Lamb]

Most definitely, watch the video by Dean, you can't dispute it.

Why can't I dispute it? If he is saying as you are about people you, and probably he, don't know personally being lying scammers, then I have reason to dispute it. You see, for your view to be correct, not only must the people who took part in the experiment be lying, so must everybody who says that they have been to the South Pole, including the disabled man who recently did so, and ITV Westcountry News who claimed to be interviewing him in Antarctica. Add them to the astronauts (including Christians) who say they have been to the moon, and people who say they have travelled all around the world, and everybody who has watched a ship gradually disappear over the horizon, and you are calling many people, a number of them bible-believing Christians, liars. You don't know most of them, so you need to be very careful about making such accusations.

 

[Strong in Him]

And what makes you think he would go with a bunch of scam artists ?

It is your judgement, alone, that they were scam artists. No one else thinks that.
And you know nothing at all about the situation - you're just trying to defend your beloved Dean.

I reckon Dean knew more than he was letting on.

Yeah, he knew there was a chance that he'd be proved to be wrong.
He HAS been proved to be wrong - and he can't admit it. Just as you can't.

 

[Strong in Him]

Most definitely, watch the video by Dean, you can't dispute it.

Rubbish.

I won't be able to dispute it because a) as I said, I am not scientific and b) I wasn't there. I bet someone could dispute it though.
But even if I did, you wouldn't accept it.

 

[Apple Sky]

I won't be able to dispute it because a) as I said, I am not scientific and b) I wasn't there.

Mores the pity, but hey what the heck it didn't take the brains of Britain to work out what they were up too.

 

[David Lamb]

Mores the pity, but hey what the heck it didn't take the brains of Britain to work out what they were up too.

But as far as I can see, you didn't work it out. You just believed what someone said in an online video. If I am wrong, tell us all how you worked out what "they" were up to.

 

[Apple Sky]

But as far as I can see, you didn't work it out. You just believed what someone said in an online video. If I am wrong, tell us all how you worked out what "they" were up to.

That's easy, Wil Duffyl only had to open his mouth & his lips moved.

 

[David Lamb]

That's easy, Wil Duffyl only had to open his mouth & his lips moved.

Well I would say that when anybody opens their mouth, their lips move. That says nothing about what a person says. Are you really saying that you worked it out because Wil Duffyl's lips moved when he opened his mouth? Don't the lips of people you agree with move when they open their mouths?

 

[pgp_protector]

So the baiting is still going on in this thread?

 

[Apple Sky]

Well I would say that when anybody opens their mouth, their lips move. That says nothing about what a person says. Are you really saying that you worked it out because Wil Duffyl's lips moved when he opened his mouth? Don't the lips of people you agree with move when they open their mouths?

I forgot the part where you know Will is lying his lips move

 

[Strong in Him]

I forgot the part where you know Will is lying his lips move

Another cute, "funny" answer - cos it's easier than trying to address some of your issues.

 

[Apple Sky]

One of many storms in Antarctica

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The still waters of Antarctica
Watch @ 58:07 which is amazingly silent & beautiful.

Antarctica in the Bible (Part 9 of 9)

Pastor Dean Odle teaches what the Bible says about Antarctica, or 'the ends of the earth' as it is commonly referred to. Scripture gives specific details about the ends of the earth which explorers an

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And he leadeth me by the sill waters.

 

[Apple Sky]

Another cute, "funny" answer - cos it's easier than trying to address some of your issues.

I haven't got any issues.

 

[Strong in Him]

I haven't got any issues.

Yes, you really have.

Believe what you like about the shape of the earth; it doesn't matter. Even you have said that the shape of the earth is not important.
Believe in God, accept Jesus and believe the earth is a flat, 40,000-foot-deep disc; believe in God, accept Jesus and believe the earth is a globe - who cares? It's not Christian doctrine, wasn't taught by Jesus and is not in the Nicene Creed.

But you have previously said:
- that you believe flat earth to be a load of nonsense. This was in the same post, or just after, you stated that you "honestly believed every word" of Charles Duke's testimony,
-that you were seeing Dean Odel in a new light,
- that it would be difficult for you to accept the (new) shape of the earth after believing that it was flat for so long.
- but that you would ask the Lord to help you when things got tough and you had doubts.
A few weeks later you wrote that a video had "come up" on YouTube - ie the search engines knew that you had an interest in Flat Earth so they provided another clip on the subject - and that you were now "back on track".
So what of your previous statements?
Are you repenting of having repented? If so, bear in mind that it may be foolish to say the earth is flat and deny the moon landings, but it's not a sin and can't save/condemn anyone.
Did you not mean it when you said that you would ask the Lord to help you in any future struggles? If you did, you immediately forgot about it when the YouTube video popped up, didn't ask God for help but went back to mocking/insulting anyone and anything that opposed your beliefs.
If you didn't mean it, why lie about asking God for help?

You have said that "God won't be pleased" with someone who says that Dean is a liar. Yet you have said that others are liars, scam artists or deluded Freemasons - with no recognition that you are doing what you accuse others of doing to Dean.
You have insisted that Genesis tells us more about the earth than I can imagine - and then had to admit that it doesn't actually teach us the shape of the earth. Either you were confused, didn't read my post carefully and wrote the wrong answer, or were lying.

Don't you understand that it is serious to claim that you will ask God for help with something, then forget it and fail to do so? Get tempted and forget to ask for his help, yes; we all fall and make mistakes. Act as though you never said those words to us and to God; no.
And ALL of this is your issue.
If God says to you one day, "why did you claim you would ask for my help in overcoming something but then went back on it?" You will have to answer. Forget Dean, forget us, forget YouTube. It's your relationship with God. You claimed that he could help you and that with that help you would be able to accept that the earth is a globe; but you didn't accept the help that he was ready to give.

And the fact that I have asked you this before and you refuse to answer, suggests that you are hoping that the issue might go away and that God might forget that you have denied him.

 

[Apple Sky]

but that you would ask the Lord to help you when things got tough and you had doubts.

And he did he showed me the truth.

If God says to you one day, "why did you claim you would ask for my help in overcoming something but then went back on it?"

But God will understand why as he knows I believe in his every word through out the Bible. Do you ?

And the fact that I have asked you this before and you refuse to answer, suggests that you are hoping that the issue might go away and that God might forget that you have denied him.

I have never denied God and never will. AMEN

 

[Strong in Him]

And he did he showed me the truth.

If you're saying that because a Flat Earth video "came up" on YouTube without you looking for it - no, that was not God "showing you the truth..
The shape of the earth does not affect salvation, help you to accept Jesus, receive the Holy Spirit or grow in faith and holiness.
God doesn't mind what shape you believe his creation to be.

But God will understand why as he knows I believe in his every word through out the Bible. Do you ?

Every word of what?
Every word of the Hebrew? The Greek? When it was translated into Latin? Every word of the KJV? Every word of the OT where, at times, there is a footnote to say that the Hebrew is unclear - so the English is really only surmised/guesswork? Every word of Mark's Gospel, including the ending which was probably added later? Every word of the Jewish law, even though we don't keep it?

If you believe every word of the Bible, you'll know that Paul says that one day we will have to give account of our lives, 1 Corinthians 3:13-14, 2 Corinthians 5:10. So IF you are asked "why did you .......?" He'll expect an answer. And saying "God will understand, I believe the Bible", does not answer the question.

I have never denied God and never will.

Publicly saying, "I will struggle in accepting a globe earth, but I will ask the Lord for help - and I'll get there", doing nothing of the sort and then saying "I've found a YouTube clip, God has shown me the truth" IS denying him.
You said that you would ask him for help and strength when you were tempted to go back to accepting a Flat Earth - you didn't.

You are also claiming that the Lord guides you, about something completely unimportant, through YouTube.
The shape of the earth was not important enough to be in God's word - but it's ok because someone made a clip about it and posted it onto a man-made site.
Unbelievable.