Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

[Apple Sky]

If you're saying that because a Flat Earth video "came up" on YouTube without you looking for it - no, that was not God "showing you the truth..

That was part of God showing me the truth.

The shape of the earth does not affect salvation, help you to accept Jesus, receive the Holy Spirit or grow in faith and holiness.
God doesn't mind what shape you believe his creation to be.

God is proud of his creation, I'd think again if I were you.

Every word of what?
Every word of the Hebrew? The Greek? When it was translated into Latin? Every word of the KJV? Every word of the OT where, at times, there is a footnote to say that the Hebrew is unclear - so the English is really only surmised/guesswork? Every word of Mark's Gospel, including the ending which was probably added later? Every word of the Jewish law, even though we don't keep it?

The KJV.

Publicly saying, "I will struggle in accepting a globe earth, but I will ask the Lord for help

I did struggle & I did ask the Lord for help & like I said before he has led me to the truth.

"I've found a YouTube clip, God has shown me the truth" IS denying him.

No it's not denying God far from it.

You are also claiming that the Lord guides you, about something completely unimportant, through YouTube.
The shape of the earth was not important enough to be in God's word - but it's ok because someone made a clip about it and posted it onto a man-made site.
Unbelievable.

I don't quite comprehend what your trying to get at here Are you OK ? Maybe your a little tired from typing so much either that or little to much vino hey ???

 

[Strong in Him]

That was part of God showing me the truth.

No.
If God needed us to know the shape of the earth he would have said so - clearly - in the Bible.
As he hasn't said it in his word, why would he say it through YouTube?

God is proud of his creation, I'd think again if I were you.

Yes, but he hasn't told us, and doesn't need us to know, what shape it is.
You need to think again too.

The KJV.

OK.
I assume that also means Acts 12:4 which talks about the Jewish leaders doing something after Easter; something that they didn't celebrate or know about.
The KJV is not the original.

I did ask the Lord for help

No; you said that Flat Earth was a load of nonsense, that it would take you a while to learn/accept that the earth was a globe but that when you were struggling to believe it, you would ask the Lord to help you to believe it.
You seem to have said; "this is too hard, I'm going to look on YouTube; oh look, a FE video that I didn't ask for - this must be God". It sounds as though you didn't, at all, say, "Lord please help me to stay firm in my new belief that the earth is a globe" - you went straight back to your old ways again.

No it's not denying God far from it.

As long as you're 1000% certain. It's your relationship with God, not mine - doesn't affect me.

I don't quite comprehend what your trying to get at here .

I don't know why.
You, yourself, have said that the shape of the earth is not important. You, yourself, have said that the Bible doesn't teach that the earth is flat.
Both of those things - your own words - are absolutely true.
I suggest that the Bible - God's word - doesn't teach Flat Earth because it is not important - God did not put it in his word; he does not need us to know it.

So if it wasn't important enough for God to put it in his word - teach it - spell it out clearly, why would he "teach you the truth" through YouTube?
Do you trust YouTube over the Bible? It seems like it.

Are you OK ? Maybe your a little tired from typing so much

Patronising and blaming others because you don't understand - wow.

either that or little to much vino hey ???

And judgemental - I don't drink.

 

[Apple Sky]

If God needed us to know the shape of the earth he would have said so - clearly - in the Bible.

But he does in many ways.

Yes, but he hasn't told us, and doesn't need us to know, what shape it is.

Yes he has told us b/c of what is happening today.

As long as you're 1000% certain. It's your relationship with God, not mine - doesn't affect me.

Very certain that haven't denied God.

I suggest that the Bible - God's word - doesn't teach Flat Earth because it is not important - God did not put it in his word; he does not need us to know it.

Wrong again.

So if it wasn't important enough for God to put it in his word - teach it - spell it out clearly, why would he "teach you the truth" through YouTube?
Do you trust YouTube over the Bible? It seems like it.

But here again God does teach us the shape of the earth & no I don't trust You Tube over the Bible I trust & believe every word of God. Do you ?

Patronising and blaming others because you don't understand - wow.

It must be your wording as I didn't get the gist of the point you were trying to make.

I don't drink.

Glad to hear it.

 

[Strong in Him]

But he does in many ways.

Your interpretation.
You said yourself that the Bible does not teach a flat earth. Or did you not know what you were talking about?

Yes he has told us b/c of what is happening today.

What is happening today?

Very certain that haven't denied God.

That's between you and him.
You haven't been the best witness.

Wrong again.

Not wrong at all.
The shape of the earth has nothing to do with salvation - you said that, too.

But here again God does teach us the shape of the earth & no I don't trust You Tube over the Bible

God guides through his word and his Spirit - not through YouTube.
Yet you looked on YouTube for help with your struggles and concluded that the video you saw was from God.

I trust & believe every word of God. Do you ?

Yes - but not in the same way that you do.

It must be your wording as I didn't get the gist of the point you were trying to make.

I apologise for being unclear - but why didn't you just say that instead of asking if I had had too much to drink?

Glad to hear it.

It shouldn't matter to you anyway; it's not wrong to drink.

 

[prodromos]

@Apple Sky is slowly turning into Nathan Oakley with her repeated slander of other Christians. Such a shame.

 

[Apple Sky]

What is happening today?

The deceptiveness of NASA & the globe, God forewarned of this in so many ways.

Yes - but not in the same way that you do.

How many ways are there ?

I apologise for being unclear - but why didn't you just say that instead of asking if I had had too much to drink?

Sorry about this,

it's not wrong to drink

I know I'm quite partial to a wee dram myself (hiccup)

 

[Apple Sky]

@Apple Sky is slowly turning into Nathan Oakley with her repeated slander of other Christians. Such a shame.

You need talk the way you go on about Dean Odle.

If your on about Willy Duffy ? He's no Christian............

 

[Phil G]

You need talk the way you go on about Dean Odle.

If your on about Willy Duffy ? He's no Christian............

I'm getting very close to reporting you. You have no right to say the things you are saying. Claiming Will Duffy is no Christian when he pastors a church in Colorado is a vile statement which has no place here.

 

[Apple Sky]

I'm getting very close to reporting you. You have no right to say the things you are saying. Claiming Will Duffy is no Christian when he pastors a church in Colorado is a vile statement which has no place here.

Okay, I apologize for calling him a none Christian but he's not a honest one.

Dean Odle is also a pastor of a church in Alabama.

 

[Phil G]

Okay, I apologize for calling him a none Christian but he's not a honest one.

Dean Odle is also a pastor of a church in Alabama.

You have no evidence that Will Duffy is dishonest. None whatsoever. Dean Odle on the other hand has been caught red handed in a lie of which he refuses to repent.

And according to you he says that Will Duffy isn’t a pastor. Either Odle is lying about that too or you are.

 

[prodromos]

Dean Odle is also a pastor of a church in Alabama.

So it's OK for you to say what you like about other pastors but not ok for others to say anything about your beloved Pastor Dean. You know what that makes you, don't you?

 

[Apple Sky]

Dean Odle on the other hand has been caught red handed in a lie of which he refuses to repent.

You have no evidence of this,

 

[Phil G]

You have no evidence of this,

It has been repeated many times on these threads. The evidence is clear. You just refuse to believe it, instead always looking for excuses to exonerate your beloved Odle.

Then you accuse another poster here, a lay preacher, of not caring about Scripture! Somebody who has done her best to help you.

You claim to fear God. Then act like it! It seems to me you treat Him with flippancy, one minute claiming repentance, the next completely denying that repentance.

Your apologies and excuses mean nothing.

 

[Apple Sky]

Your apologies and excuses mean nothing.

So I take it that I'm not forgiven then ?

 

[Phil G]

So I take it that I'm not forgiven then ?

Why do you ask such a thing???? You have shown yourself to be an extremely untrustworthy person, letting fly with accusations against Christians, apologising one minute, then going back to those same accusations later. Those type of “apologies” are not worth even considering as true apologies.

A true apology would be sincere, not the flippant “okay I apologise then” type of nonsense you say.

And any sincere fear of God would be reflected in a humble repentance before Him. I don’t see that with your posts at all, except once, and then it was shown to be a fraud because back you went to the same unrepentant accusations.

 

[Apple Sky]

Why do you ask such a thing???? You have shown yourself to be an extremely untrustworthy person, letting fly with accusations against Christians, apologising one minute, then going back to those same accusations later. Those type of “apologies” are not worth even considering as true apologies.

A true apology would be sincere, not the flippant “okay I apologise then” type of nonsense you say.

And any sincere fear of God would be reflected in a humble repentance before Him. I don’t see that with your posts at all, except once, and then it was shown to be a fraud because back you went to the same unrepentant accusations.

So I'm not forgiven.

 

[Phil G]

So I'm not forgiven.

Stop evading your responsibility before God as to how you claim one thing and then do the opposite against fellow Christians.

You “apologise” and then it’s as if you never did. How would you take such an “apology”?

 

[Apple Sky]

You “apologise” and then it’s as if you never did. How would you take such an “apology”?

How else can I say that I'm sorry ?

 

[Phil G]

How else can I say that I'm sorry ?

By showing that your “sorry” is sincere. And you do that by making a sincere effort to not repeat what you did again.

You have called fellow believers who attest to a globe earth liars over and over on these threads, with no other reason than they do not agree with you about the shape of the earth. You call into question the sincerity and belief of Christians for no other reason than they do not agree with you about the shape of the earth, and you do so repeatedly.

Despite the odd “apology” here and there, your accusations continue, revealing that your apologies are essentially shallow and without sincerity.

 

[Apple Sky]

By showing that your “sorry” is sincere. And you do that by making a sincere effort to not repeat what you did again.

You have called fellow believers who attest to a globe earth liars over and over on these threads, with no other reason than they do not agree with you about the shape of the earth. You call into question the sincerity and belief of Christians for no other reason than they do not agree with you about the shape of the earth, and you do so repeatedly.

Despite the odd apology here and there, your accusations continue, revealing that your apologies are essentially shallow and without sincerity.

I agree, I should not call all non f/es liars just b/c they don't agree with me, I will however curb this.
I am truly sorry for changing my mind over the shape of the earth & didn't mean to mislead anyone but in the end it all came down to the word of God & what is written in the Bible there's just noway of getting away from God's truth. I do hope you all can understand.