Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

[Apple Sky]

God has perfectly placed the sun and moon where they are, the earth in orbit around the sun and the moon in orbit around the earth.

No he hasn't.

Your own observation of the moon and sun being bigger when they rise, when they should be smaller if the earth is flat, shows that flat earth is wrong.

And your observation of the sun being 400 times bigger than the moon shows a globe to be wrong.

 

[Strong in Him]

I know, but God didn't create a spinning ball earth that hops around a sun

It doesn't "hop" around a sun; it revolves around the sun.
That is what happens, that is the earth that exists and everything that exists has been made by God.
Deny it until you are blue in the face; it doesn't change the facts.

And it is not one big lie - you say that it is, but you can't prove it or even answer anyone's questions about it.

 

[Phil G]

I know, but God didn't create a spinning ball earth that hops around a sun that is supposed to be 400 times larger than the moon. No way.
Who else could concoct such a narrative ?

What are you talking about? God didn't create a spinning ball earth that hops around the sun. He created a rotating globe earth orbiting the sun once a year. He "concocted" that narrative because He created them.

Not when it's all one big lie.

Where's your proof? You are on very dangerous ground to call God's creation "one big lie".

 

[Phil G]

No he hasn't.

Yes He has. And I repeat, you are on very dangerous ground to call God's creation a "big lie".

And your observation of the sun being 400 times bigger than the moon shows a globe to be wrong.

I haven't observed it. But you HAVE observed the fact that the moon and sun's sizes when they rise contradict flat earth

 

[Strong in Him]

No he hasn't.

Well if he hasn't then there is something in creation which exists and was not created by God - so you believe John 1:3 is wrong.
You previously said that the devil created this. Attributing something to the devil when t was created by God is a dangerous move - actually known as the unforgiveable sin.

 

[Apple Sky]

No you don't. If you did practice logic, you would accept the earth is a globe. Your own observation of the sun and moon being bigger when they rise logically shows flat earth to be wrong.


Utter rubbish without the slightest bit of evidence. Christian eyewitnesses testify to your claims being nonsense. They preach Jesus and Him crucified for the forgiveness of sins. And they testify to the earth being a globe.


Utter bunkum! And very defamatory. This is slander. Where is your evidence for such an accusation? You are exhibiting very UN-Christlike attitudes towards your brothers and sisters in Christ.

No, this is what YOU are telling me.
YOU are saying that no one walked on the moon, ever. That means that all scientists, NASA employees, the bloke whose book you quoted from who worked on Apollo rockets, ALL are lying.
Nearly everyone is lying, in fact, except for you, Dean Odle and some guy who spoke against Covid vaccinations and then died from Covid.

Come on, be sensible!
Men deliberately lied to their wives? Where were they for all those weeks; down the pub?
Men chose to miss out on their children's lives/the birth of their children, death of family members etc just to maintain a lie?
Children missed out on having their dads around - and it turned out their dads were deliberately lying/stringing them, and everybody else along? How did those children grow up to learn the concept of telling the truth? How many hours of counselling did they need to have when they found out that their dads had deliberately lied?

Why in the world would their lives be threated?
Why in the world would anyone go to so much time, trouble and expense to fool the rest of us that they walked on the moon?

I believe the Christian astronauts over you any day - and I'm sorry that you accuse God's children of lying and have not read Jesus' words that however we treat others, we are doing that to HIM.

I reckon this all belongs in the moon thread.

 

[Phil G]

I reckon this all belongs in the moon thread.

You're still trying to get out of answering questions put to you. And this thread is perfectly fine because, while it is about TFE specifically, it's also about observations leading to a globe earth conclusion as a number of experiments were performed by TFE in Antarctica, not just the 24 hour sun in the sky.

And all you're doing is making unproven statements and false, unfounded accusations against Christians and God's own, something Satan does all the time as he is the "accuser".

 

[Apple Sky]

Well if he hasn't then there is something in creation which exists and was not created by God - so you believe John 1:3 is wrong.
You previously said that the devil created this. Attributing something to the devil when t was created by God is a dangerous move - actually known as the unforgiveable sin.

All's I'm saying is that God didn't create a spinning ball & I know what the unforgivable sin is, so don't try to pull that one on me.

 

[Apple Sky]

You're still trying to get out of answering questions put to you. And this thread is perfectly fine because, while it is about TFE specifically, it's also about observations leading to a globe earth conclusion as a number of experiments were performed by TFE in Antarctica, not just the 24 hour sun in the sky.

Which were faked.

 

[Phil G]

All's I'm saying is that God didn't create a spinning ball & I know what the unforgivable sin is, so don't try to pull that one on me.

No, He created a rotating globe. And attributing something which God has done to Satan is tantamount to accusing God. You are on VERY dangerous ground with that one.

 

[Phil G]

Which were faked.

Another defamatory accusation. Was your own observation of the sun and moon looking bigger when they rise also faked? Because that observation contradicts flat earth.

I really do think at this stage that you are trying to get this thread shut down, because your attitude towards fellow Christians is disgraceful.

 

[Strong in Him]

I reckon this all belongs in the moon thread.

Of course you do.
You can't answer the questions, or the points that have been put to you, so you change the subject.

True, this is not directly related to the expedition to Antarctica. But there were photos of the earth taken from space - photos which show the earth to be a circle, which even you agree with. Because you don't want these photos to show what you deny to be true, your only option is to ridicule and belittle.

But as I have pointed out several times, YOU told me that the earth is at least 40,000 feet deep. A circle which has depth - and the KJV says that God brings people from the depths of the earth - is a globe; a 3 dimensional shape.

 

[Apple Sky]

No, He created a rotating globe

No he never.

And attributing something which God has done to Satan is tantamount to accusing God. You are on VERY dangerous ground with that one.

What for telling the truth ?

God never created a spinning globe hurting through space at who knows how many miles an hour through the billions & billions of stars & who's sun is 400 times bigger than moon, think about it.

 

[Apple Sky]

I really do think at this stage that you are trying to get this thread shut down, because your attitude towards fellow Christians is disgraceful

I'm just stating the truth, how about their attitude towards me ?

 

[Strong in Him]

All's I'm saying is that God didn't create a spinning ball & I know what the unforgivable sin is,

So you believe Mark 3:30, then?
Good.

Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

30 He said this because they were saying, “He has an impure spirit.”

The Pharisees were claiming that Jesus was casting evil spirits out in the power of Satan, when in fact he was casting them out by the power of God.
They were refusing to believe/consider/admit that the miracle came from God and said "you are doing it in the name of Satan."

You refuse to believe that the globe earth that we have (whether you accept it or not, doesn't matter; it exists) was created by God. You said that the devil created it.
You don't seem to believe John 1:3 which says that everything that exists has been made by GOD - not Satan, God.

Your doubting of God's word, your statement that something that he made was created by the devil and your insistence that God's children are lying is dangerous and foolhardy.
But it's between you and God. None of us will have to answer to God for those things; you will.

 

[Phil G]

No he never.

What about your own observation of the sun and moon being bigger when they rise? That contradicts flat earth. If you can't answer that one you have no right to say Christians faked anything.

What for telling the truth ?

No, for saying something God has done, of which there is more than ample proof starting with His own eyewitnesses, is Satan's work.

God never created a spinning globe hurting through space at who knows how many miles an hour through the billions & billions of stars & who's sun is 400 times bigger than moon, think about it.

You are just making statements. You have no evidence to make such claims.

I would strongly advise you to stop accusing Christians, your own brothers and sisters in Christ.

 

[Strong in Him]

No he never.

Quote from the sitcom, "My Family";
"if you go through life with your head in the sand, all people will see is your backside" (polite version.)

 

[Phil G]

I'm just stating the truth, how about their attitude towards me ?

I've yet to see any attitude towards you that has not been one of trying to explain basic facts to you. You're the one that then makes accusations of "fake", "lies", "fairy stories". And you expect people not to lose patience with your accusations against Christians?

Stop playing the victim and answer the points put to you instead of making unfounded accusations against God's own. You are defaming Christians by doing so.

 

[Phil G]

Quote from the sitcom, "My Family";
"if you go through life with your head in the sand, all people will see is your backside" (polite version.)

Perish the thought....

 

[Apple Sky]

But it's between you and God. None of us will have to answer to God for those things; you will.

I know just as I know God's truth

You are just making statements. You have no evidence to make such claims.

I have all the evidence I will ever need.

I would strongly advise you to stop accusing Christians, your own brothers and sisters in Christ

What about those that are accusing me ?