Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

[Phil G]

Droplets or dew water always finds it's own level.

As a sphere, in other words they are naturally curved.

Now tell us why you contradict flat earth by saying the sun is bigger at sunrise than it is at noon…

And tell us how you can use “only” instinct while using “mostly” logic to decide what is true….

 

[Apple Sky]

As a sphere, in other words they are naturally curved.

That's not logical, run a tap into a bowl. water always find it's own level to what ever container it is in.

 

[Phil G]

That's not logical, run a tap into a bowl. water always find it's own level to what ever container it is in.

Here's a website showing a water drop on curved surface. Not only is it not "level" on top, it's following the curved surface underneath:

What to do When Your Contact Angle is out of Spec

It is imperative to take a holistic view of each step in a multi-phased production process in order to understand how to optimize adhesive bonding contact.

www.brighton-science.com

And I've already shown you what happens to a water "level" when a force is applied to it.

You're the one not being logical.

Now tell us why you contradict flat earth by saying the sun is bigger at sunrise than it is at noon…

And tell us how you can use “only” instinct while using “mostly” logic to decide what is true….

And stop deflecting from your responsibility to explain yourself.

 

[HantsUK]

If you happen to be staying in a hotel on the Gold Coast in Queensland Australia, you can watch the sun rise from the top of the hotel tower, then take the lift to the ground floor where you can watch the sun rise all over again, even though the sun is the same distance away, albeit a tiny bit closer the 2nd time.
If you are on the West Coast you can watch the sun set, then take the lift up to the top of the tower where the sun will not yet have set, and watch the sun set again, even though the distance to the sun is the same, albeit a little further the 2nd time.
If the sun was appearing and disappearing due to passing a 'vanishing point', then it would make no difference on a flat earth whether you were at the top or bottom of a tall building. The sun should appear or disappear at exactly the same time. It doesn't because the earth is a globe and not flat.

If sunrise and sunset were due to passing a 'vanishing point' then the sun would also appear to start small at sunrise and gradually get bigger as it approached noon, after which it would gradually get smaller until it disappeared at sunset, whereas the sun stays exactly the same size all day. This all proves that the claim made by flat-earthers is false regarding sunrise and sunset.

You do not need to do anything this difficult.

Just lie down and watch the sun set. Then quickly stand up and watch it set again.



Additionally: the sun takes 2 to 5 minutes to go from full size to not visible depending depends on your latitude and the time of year. If it's diminishing size was due to the sun getting further away, then to go from full size to half size would mean doubling its distance from the observer. A quarter size would be 4x the distance. A 10th size would be 10x the distance. All within a couple of minutes. Meaning the sun's speed in rapidly increasing.

Some ballpark figures: height of sun above the earth according to typical flat earth figures is 3,000 miles (there is actually some logical reasoning behind this figure). Lets say the sun takes 4 minutes to set. After 2 minutes, it is half size. So will have travelled 3000 miles in 2 minutes, an average of 90,000 mph. After another minute it is 1/4 size, so a further 6,000 miles away (total 9,000 miles). For that minute, an average speed of 360,000 mph.

But someone in a time zone 6 hours behind will be seeing the sun directly overhead, at a height of 3,000 miles.

This is clearly bonkers. It does not work. The earth cannot be flat. Basic observations contradict a flat earth. A flat earth is not possible.

 

[trophy33]

Logic is when you know that water always finds it's own level.

Logic is when you know the sun, the moon & the stars revolve around the sky .

Logic is when you know they can not build on a none level earth.

Logic is when you know that the earth cannot be moved & is not moving.

Nope, this is not logic.

You have quite a problem defining English words, I noticed. Using them in a sentence properly. You need to read more books!

 

[Phil G]

Nope, this is not logic.

You have quite a problem defining English words, I noticed. Using them in a sentence properly. You need to read more books!

Preferably dictionaries.

Logic to her is coming to a conclusion based on her beliefs, therefore it's true.

 

[trophy33]

Preferably dictionaries.

Logic to her is coming to conclusion based on her beliefs, therefore it's true.

I would not go so far, calling it "coming to conclusion". It is more like random beliefs put together. Without a clear key why or which ones.

 

[Phil G]

I would not go so far, calling it "coming to conclusion".

Well, it would seem like a conclusion to her, but to everyone else it's just another irrational and unsubstantiated claim of "truth".

Or else she's just trying to get attention and rise us all....

 

[Apple Sky]

Logic to her is coming to a conclusion based on her beliefs, therefore it's true.

No- My logic is based on truth - Water always finds it own level, you can only put down foundations on a level ground & the moon, sun & the stars are in motion above in the firmament which no one has ever gotten through.

John 3:13"No one has ascended into heaven except the one who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.

 

[trophy33]

Water always finds it own level...

... in connected containers and without external forces or obstructions.

Boom! Your partial statement is suddenly irrelevant for a planet.

 

[Apple Sky]

in connected containers and without external forces or obstructions.

 

[trophy33]

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This was created by some ignorant person who, like you, did not read the physical law about fluids till the end.

 

[Apple Sky]

@trophy33

You can laugh all you want but it doesn't make it any less true.

 

[trophy33]

@trophy33

You can laugh all you want but it doesn't make it any less true.

You need to learn reading full sentences. Physical law definitions do not stop when you want

 

[prodromos]

... in connected containers and without external forces or obstructions.

Boom! Your partial statement is suddenly irrelevant for a planet.

She forgets that "level" is defined as "equidistant from the centre of the earth".

Her 'meme' is also completely ignorant of tides. When it is high tide in one part of the world it is low tide in another part of the world, once again demonstrating that the earth is not flat.

 

[Apple Sky]

Her 'meme' is also completely ignorant of tides. When it is high tide in one part of the world it is low tide in another part of the world, once again demonstrating that the earth is not flat.

Flat Earth and the tides prove the earth is not spinning​

https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=WUR8YGMK74Y3

 

[Phil G]

No- My logic is based on truth - Water always finds it own level, you can only put down foundations on a level ground & the moon, sun & the stars are in motion above in the firmament which no one has ever gotten through.

John 3:13"No one has ascended into heaven except the one who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.

You’re still not understating logic despite posting a definition of it. Logic is not what you believe. Nor is it what you claim to “know”. It is reaching a conclusion based on methodical reason, not belief.

Logic will bring you to a conclusion based on experimentation, such as observing the rising sun. If the earth is flat, the sun should rise first as a point of light. It should gradually get bigger as the morning heads towards noon because it should be moving closer to you…if the earth is flat.

At noon it should be at its biggest. But you said the opposite. You said it is bigger at sunrise. You said the same about the moon.

How does that logically make sense with a flat earth? You have now avoided that question repeatedly!

Logically, your observation leads you towards a conclusion that the earth is not flat.

You keep making statements and claiming logic. Thats not logic. Its just making statements.

 

[Strong in Him]

No- My logic is based on truth - Water always finds it own level

Why do you keep saying "water always finds its own level" and "water doesn't curve" to show that the earth is flat, when you have also said that you believe the earth is a circle?
It is - it's a 3 dimensional circle, or globe/sphere.
You know the earth has depth, because when I pointed out that the KJV talks about God bringing people from the depths of the earth and depths of the sea, and I asked you how deep the earth is, you replied that the deepest hole that's ever been dug was more than 40,000 feet deep.

you can only put down foundations on a level ground

So?

& the moon, sun & the stars are in motion above in the firmament which no one has ever gotten through.

Who says?
Oh wait a moment, you have found a verse which said the sky is AS glass, or something, and concluded that this means it is solid.
Once again, you are misunderstanding/misinterpreting Scripture - which, in any case, is not a science textbook.

 

[Apple Sky]

Who says?

God.

 

[Strong in Him]

God.

No, he doesn't.

Once again, you have ignored the bulk of my post and answered only part of it.
It would be good if you could answer the rest.