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I've covered this. If you instruct a construction crew to build a road, flat and level, that is two miles long, you will get what you want, but not what you asked for. "Flat and level" would end up being curved according a center of gravity, which actually moves. Practically speaking, the world is flat for most of the population. In reality, everywhere you walk, the earth is flat and level, except for local grading.

Are you aware that what you have just written has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject under discussion?
Are you aware that the idea that the "center of gravity" of any solid object can move is absurd?
Your notions about the nature of the physical world are based in fantasy.
 
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Can any of you flat Earthers provide a "map" of the supposedly "flat" Earth that actually makes any sense whatsoever?

I would greatly doubt it.
There is no flat earth map that is plausible.
So i'm back to the sphere again.
Not only because of the non existing map, there are many more problems in a flat earth model.

I'm not sure what is going on here..
Why is there no "earth-cam" on ISS that shows all of earth, and why are NASA pictures absent or ambiguous?
And what to do with the Biblical description of the earth?
 
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Just as most people experience the world as if evolution wasn't true?
Science (knowledge of discoveries of reality) doesn't support evolution, but it's part of the naturalistic (atheistic) models.
Science supports special creation.
Science doesn't support a flat earth though.
So that's why it's not explicitly spelled out in scripture?
The flat earth is however rather spelled out as such in Scripture.
 
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That's the whole Earth in a circular formation on that map... and it's flat.
Not even close. That is a representation of the Earth in image. The actual Earth is not flat, it is a globe (well actually slightly ovoid, the southern half bulges a bit).
 
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That's the whole Earth in a circular formation on that map... and it's flat.
And the entire Southern Hemisphere is grotesquely distorted.

Eg - In Australia, in reality, the distance between Canberra in the South-East and Darwin in the North (+-3088km), is only slightly smaller (like, 45km) than the difference between Canberra and Perth in the South West (+-3133km). Yet, on your map, it appears that the Perth is easily twice as far from Canberra than Darwin.

Sooo...
1. Are Australians just too spectacularly stupid to figure out that the distances they believe in are dead wrong, or
2. Are all Australian, to the last person, liars and / or part of the conspiracy, or
3. Is your map distorted?
 
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So was Adam's Flat Earth, where the mountains were covered when the flood prevailed to a depth of 22.5 feet. (15 cubits) Gen 7:20 Amen?
Doesn't really matter.
Waters from under the earth's crust broke through, waters from the heavens came down, regardless of the earth's surface being flat or spherical.
 
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So was Adam's Flat Earth, where the mountains were covered when the flood prevailed to a depth of 22.5 feet. (15 cubits) Gen 7:20 Amen?

Any mention of how high the mountains in question were at the time?
 
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No one disputes the earth's surface is flat.
The consequences of why Scripture talks about the whole earth being flat is the question.

Becasue the earth is 99.9% flat and 99% of readers experience the world as flat.
Even people in China are not aware of any different orientation from you.
They "Wrongly" point UP when you are pointing DOWN. Which of you is messed up? And that's today.
 
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Becasue the earth is 99.9% flat and 99% of readers experience the world as flat.
Even people in China are not aware of any different orientation from you.
They "Wrongly" point UP when you are pointing DOWN. Which of you is messed up? And that's today.
It's beyond the scope of this thread, but ALL mankind / society IS messed up.(or down?)
 
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Doesn't really matter.
Waters from under the earth's crust broke through, waters from the heavens came down, regardless of the earth's surface being flat or spherical.

What matters is that Adam's flat Earth was totally destroyed in the flood as the following verse confirms:

2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world (Greek-kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water, perished: (destroyed totally utterly)

This agrees with what God told Noah:

Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before Me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

This agrees with this verse:

Isa 24:19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.

This agrees with this verse:

2Pe 2:5 And spared NOT the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world (Greek-kosmos) of the ungodly;

Adam's firmament, which God called "Heaven" was made on the 2nd Day. Gen 1:6-8 God made other 'HeavenS" on the 3rd Day, the SAME Day Adam's Earth was made. Gen 2:4 That is the world that THEN WAS, which was totally destroyed in the Flood. Adam's flat Earth was "clean dissolved" in the flood but that could NEVER happen to our Earth since our Earth is a Rock with a molten core. God identifies our 2nd Heaven here:

2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire

He also tells us of another Heaven, the New Heaven and New Earth of Rev. 21:1. Paul was taken to that THIRD Heaven:

2Co 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth) such an one caught up to the third heaven.

The firmament, which surrounded Adam's Earth and kept it from being destroyed by the water which surrounded it is STILL in Lake Van, Turkey where it sank, releasing the 450 ft Ark into the Lake. HISTORY also confirms this event since Human farming, on our Earth, and ALL other modern Human traits began just 10-11k years ago EXACTLY where God tells us the Ark arrived. Here is a map of the Fertile Crescent where Noah arrived. http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html

Lake Van is in the mountains of Ararat AND in the center of the Fertile Crescent at the top of the Map. There are many more confirmations of this event, but the above is PROOF of the Literal flood which totally destroyed Adam's world and all of it's people and left the Ark safe in the 75 mile wide 1500 ft deep Lake Van.

The Scoffers/Unbelievers of the last days before Jesus returns will NOT believe that Adam's entire world was totally destroyed in the flood nor that the present Cosmos will be burned. ll Peter 3:3-7 Amen?
 
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Well, the compass will point to the centre, which is the north, so...
I'm still a 'globalist' though, but i'm intrigued by the evidence for a flat surface.
I wonder where it will lead me.
Do some trigonometry on the sky positions of the sun in various locations around the Earth. There is no flat Earth model that can account for the observations.
 
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