Flat Earth Theory.

Apple Sky · Feb 11, 2024

myst33 said:
Its not about the planet, because the ancient people had no such concept. Earth there means simply a dry, stable land people lived on (i.e. mostly Mesopotamia). The opposite to dangerous and unpredictable seas.

Lol'z

Apple Sky · Feb 11, 2024

MForbes said:
Look it up……but of course, you won’t believe it,

Show me the article where it said that Rob Skiba had Covid.

Apple Sky · Feb 11, 2024

prodromos said:
Have you even been? How would you know?

Then you will answer to your slander at the judgement seat of Christ.

And you my friend will have to answer for believing a lie.

Apple Sky · Feb 11, 2024

prodromos said:
It is fixed in orbit around the sun

If it's unmovable then why is the earth spinning and hurtling through space ?

Strong in Him · Feb 11, 2024

Apple of Eden said:
You shouldn't believe me but you should believe God.

I do believe God.
He doesn't say that the earth is flat.

trophy33 · Feb 11, 2024

Apple of Eden said:
Lol'z

Really, try to read something about their culture and worldview. You can find such information, for example, in Bible dictionaries:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=bible+dictionary&ref=nav_bb_sb

You will get some glance into how Israel, Babylonia, Persia understood their world. They had no idea about other continents, oceans and similar, they knew their land, seas around it and that was their world they talked about. They were, of course, also unable to explore the bottom of the seas, so they for example thought its eternally deep and this concept is also reflected in the Old Testament, among others.

Without that, you will misunderstand the text, because you will read your current views and ideas into it.

Strong in Him · Feb 11, 2024

Apple of Eden said:
He doesn't

There you go, then.
God doesn't say that the earth is flat, and you can't prove that it is.

Apple of Eden said:
he uses words such as :

Unmovable
Face
Line
circle not ball
Fixed
Foundation
Footstool
Firmament
Bound

Firstly, none of those words prove that the earth is flat.
Secondly, though inspired by God the Bible was written by men, (and women?); human beings who were limited in their knowledge and could not speak of things which were not known. There are no computers in the Bible, for example; no phones, no cars, no trains/planes etc. For the simple reason, they hadn't been invented.
Thirdly, the Bible reveals GOD, his love, his nature, his will, his salvation. The purpose of the Bible is not, and never was, to be a science textbook. Nor does it address every issue of modern life. There is no Covid/measles/mumps/HIV/cancer in the Bible and God doesn't tell us what to do if we get them. Does this mean that all these illnesses are fake? The countries that we (most of us) live in aren't mentioned in the Bible - maybe they don't exist, then? Maybe you actually live in Egypt, instead of South Wales.

Your whole argument is based on your interpretation of the Bible - which is wrong.

Lost4words · Feb 11, 2024

Apple of Eden said:
He doesn't he uses words such as :

Unmovable
Face
Line
circle not ball
Fixed
Foundation
Footstool
Firmament
Bound

The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment Job 38:14

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None of those refer to a flat earth. Zero.

Yet again, a flat earther is trying their hardest to twist and contort scripture to claim the earth is flat!!!

God doesnt lie!!! The earth is a globe! The evidence is overwhelming and thorough.

Apple Sky · Feb 11, 2024

Strong in Him said:
Secondly, though inspired by God the Bible was written by men, (and women?); human beings who were limited in their knowledge and could not speak of things which were not known. There are no computers in the Bible, for example; no phones, no cars, no trains/planes etc. For the simple reason, they hadn't been invented.

How do you know ? They've already rewritten all of our history - Look up 'ancient artifacts found'.

ancient artifacts found - Google Search

The Best one is the computer found.

So I take it there were no cities built in the Bible either.

prodromos · Feb 11, 2024

Apple of Eden said:
If it's unmovable then why is the earth spinning and hurtling through space ?

Why don't you ask God? He is the one who created it that way.

trophy33 · Feb 11, 2024

Apple of Eden said:
If it's unmovable then why is the earth spinning and hurtling through space ?

Its not about any such thing.

5He set the earth on its foundations;
it can never be moved.
6You covered it with the watery depths as with a garment;
the waters stood above the mountains.
7But at your rebuke the waters fled,
at the sound of your thunder they took to flight;
8they flowed over the mountains,
they went down into the valleys,
to the place you assigned for them.
9You set a boundary they cannot cross;
never again will they cover the earth.

It means that the ground you stand on does not move, its stable, safe, suitable for our life. Compared to dangerous, chaotic waters.

Also, realize that its a psalm, song, poetry.

prodromos · Feb 11, 2024

Apple of Eden said:
Show me the article where it said that Rob Skiba had Covid.

Search "Rob Skiba covid" on Google.

d taylor · Feb 11, 2024

Strong in Him said:
Maybe, but that's what it sounded like.

Nope.

Nope.

Yes, exactly; that is what I have said before.
Nothing about this flat earth debate affects salvation. Neither does it mean that a person doesn't believe God, has been deceived, does not believe Genesis or has gone outside of God's word.

The purpose of Genesis is to show that God created - full stop. It is his universe.
God spoke.
God saw.
God said.
Etc.

Genesis is not a science text book. It doesn't say how trees were created, how deep the waters were and whether they were salty or fresh, how high the mountains were or how far apart the moon and the sun were - in relation to each other and to the earth.
Science can give us some idea of HOW the universe was created - though scientists have not yet managed to create something from nothing. But they can't tell us WHY it was created.
Genesis tells us why; because God wanted it, spoke and it happened.

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Well often i fail to communicate my thoughts through writing. What i was saying is, when satan uses God's creation. He satan is using the fact from The Bible that God created creation. So he satan takes that fact and uses man to create a false counterfeit creation. Satans creation uses elements from God's creation (earth, sun, moon, stars), but then over time has with the elements stated in The Bible as being God's creation. He satan, has added to and altered / counterfeited God's creation.

Example the sun has become a star (among billions of other sun stars) and the center of which planets move around the sun in this outer space. So all of which has no Biblical support, absolutely zero. The only part that is Biblical of the stated science creation account is, there is the sun .

If what science is giving as God's creation does not match The Bible's creation account, it is a deception. Where i have not come across one matching creation account from science, that is in perfectly agreement with The Bible's.

Strong in Him · Feb 11, 2024

Apple of Eden said:
How do you know ?

Because I read the Bible.
Isaiah did not receive emails from God and then forward them to the nation.
Jeremiah did not suggest adding other prophets to a What'sApp group.
King Josiah sent priests to a prophet when he wanted a word form the Lord; he didn't Google it.

Apple of Eden said:
They've already rewritten all of our history - Look up 'ancient artifacts found'.

Artefacts, yes - mobile phones, iPads, laptops? No.

Apple of Eden said:
The Best one is the computer found.

Some form of basic computer, maybe.
Not the computers we are using to write on this forum.

Nor did God ever say "I am giving this command/teaching for those who will have technology in the future."
The Bible reveals God, his salvation, his love and his will. The way that we work all that out, the things that we use to help us to worship/serve him, read his word etc etc varies from age to age.
At one point the Bible was in Latin. There was one copy, in church, usually chained to a lectern so that "common people" couldn't get to it and read it. Men lost their lives because of their belief that the Bible should be in English and available to everyone. Nowadays we have dozens of translations. Simply because people have said, "God's word should be available in modern language."
Are they wrong to say that?

Lost4words · Feb 11, 2024

d taylor said:
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Well often i fail to communicate my thoughts through writing. What i was saying is, when satan uses God's creation. He satan is using the fact from The Bible that God created creation. So he satan takes that fact and uses man to create a false counterfeit creation. Satans creation uses elements from God's creation (earth, sun, moon, stars), but then over time has with the elements stated in The Bible as being God's creation. He satan, has added to and altered / counterfeited God's creation.

Example the sun has become a star (among billions of other sun stars) and the center of which planets move around the sun in this outer space. So all of which has no Biblical support, absolutely zero. The only part that is Biblical of the stated science creation account is, there is the sun .

If what science is giving as God's creation does not match The Bible's creation account, it is a deception. Where i have not come across one matching creation account from science, that is in perfectly agreement with The Bible's.

You interpret God's word wrongly and its glaringly apparent!!

You are being deceived my friend.

God doesnt lie. His truth is all around us. The earth is not flat. The Bible doesnt say it is flat.

God gave us knowledge. Science. The ability to learn about His creation.

The Bible does not explain God's creation in detail. God left that up to us to discern. To explore. With His blessing.

pgp_protector · Feb 11, 2024

Apple of Eden said:
Show me the article where it said that Rob Skiba had Covid.

Though it will probably be denied.

Flat Earth theorist, anti-vaxxer Rob Skiba dies from COVID: report - Yahoo Sports

A champion of the flat Earth movement has reportedly lost his battle with COVID-19. Rob Skiba — said to have come home from a Christian-centric Take On The World conference in August not feeling well — was also a COVID vaccine skeptic, the Daily Beast reports. It was from that conference he...

sports.yahoo.com

d taylor · Feb 11, 2024

Lost4words said:
You interpret God's word wrongly and its glaringly apparent!!

You are being deceived my friend.

God doesnt lie. His truth is all around us. The earth is not flat. The Bible doesnt say it is flat.

God gave us knowledge. Science. The ability to learn about His creation.

The Bible does not explain God's creation in detail. God left that up to us to discern. To explore. With His blessing.

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I see now after all these post you keep making, there definitely a flat earther in you wanting to get out.

Apple Sky · Feb 11, 2024

prodromos said:
Search "Rob Skiba covid" on Google.

So was he wrong to be anti-vaxer ?

Strong in Him · Feb 11, 2024

Apple of Eden said:
So was he wrong to be anti-vaxer ?

I doubt anyone would say he was wrong to believe that vaccines were unsafe - people are entitled to believe what they like.
But his belief was clearly misplaced; it seems he opposed vaccines for Covid, then died from Covid.

Lost4words · Feb 11, 2024

d taylor said:
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I see now after all these post you keep making, there definitely a flat earther in you wanting to get out.

As if. Why? Because i trust in a globe earth. A globe earth created by God. A globe earth proven by man, who is made in the image of God. Man, given knowledge and understanding by God.

Look around you my friend. God doesnt lie. Satan does!

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